Pulp expanding into Avondale

Started by fieldafm, August 29, 2010, 06:47:51 PM

Captain Zissou

QuoteAlso, Yoga Berry is about to open up in the old Robert Burns Florist space.

I tried searching for this, but couldn't find it.  Is this on the strip? 

Can't wait for whatever is replacing Monty's.  Even an applebee's would be better IMO.  Any word on the Casbah expansion?

iluvolives

The florist is next door to The Fox, thats where it will be going

Captain Zissou

So within 3 blocks, at least 4 new dining establishments are in the works...? Without any involvement from the city or any Vision organizations to help spur development?  Does that mean downtown should be expecting 40 new eating options in the next year??

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Captain Zissou on November 30, 2010, 10:04:10 AM
So within 3 blocks, at least 4 new dining establishments are in the works...? Without any involvement from the city or any Vision organizations to help spur development?  Does that mean downtown should be expecting 40 new eating options in the next year??

Hey Captain, I know you frequent Riverside a lot since I've run into you a couple times in Kickbacks and whatnot, so surely I bet you know the answer to this conundrum? Maybe someone could point out for us where all the parking meters, cops, parking tickets, time limits, etc., are in Riverside? It's a real mystery!

According to COJ and planners like Tufsu, the "total chaos" (his exact words) that occurs without a bunch of asinine parking policies, parking meters, and rude enforcement, should really be stifling development over here, right?

What's going on? I'm confused...(tongue in cheek)


fieldafm

Or maybe, businesses want to locate where there is maximum density?

JTA has a real opportunity on its hands here.  Parking is going to become an even bigger issue with a 150 seat restaurant(Mojos) and another potential 100 seat restaurant at Montys.

IMO, the Trolley service should be extended to evening hours(like the Beaches Trolley does), a new route should be opened on Park street, the existing route should connect to Roosevelt Square, and JTA should work on a transit-oriented merchant program(something they dropped the ball on when the Beaches Trolley rolled out).

Captain Zissou

You know, I'm not sure what the difference between Riverside and downtown is.....

One thing I noticed that was peculiar was that the owner of Jacksonville's newest brewery leased the space adjacent to his business for patrons to use as parking because he was concerned that his property did not provide enough spaces when his business was at capacity.  I guess he was concerned about the end-user experience or something.  

I doubt it's going to help his business.  He should put up 30 minute parking meters and hire some maladjusted parking cops to patrol the area instead.  That will surely keep folks coming back.

I was out in Riverside 4 times over the past 10 days.  I didn't notice any 'total chaos' while I was there, but I'm sure I just wasn't looking hard enough.  I couldn't coax people to join me downtown because they described it as 'a hassle'.  I can't imagine why.

mtraininjax

Stephen, apparently downtown still has the stigma that "It's not safe to go down there"!

Rumor on the street is that Frank and other restaurant owners in Avondale have enlisted Paul Harden to rescind the overlay that Corrigan pushed through allowing any business to change to a restuarant without needing the appropriate number of parking spaces. Should be fun to watch.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Sentient

And..... now PULP in Avondale is permanently closed...  R.I.P.

Know Growth

Quote from: Sentient on July 08, 2016, 12:16:33 AM
And..... now PULP in Avondale is permanently closed...  R.I.P.

I live nearby,went twice and then skipped it in favor of Grassroots.

Know Growth

Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 30, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
With Pulp and Mojo's coming to Avondale, the area will be a dining hub for that whole side of town.  It's like the dining component of the SJTC without the clear cutting, traffic jams, scorching heat, and parking lots.

I think the Avondale strip could use another night spot.  Hopefully Mojo's will stay open late to help meet this need. 

What a difference half a decade makes  8)

Mojo's late late night hours scaled back,having lost the Crowd to King Street.

And the assumptions behind the 2 million price tag for Monty's evaporated,as one aspiring buyer discovered; Mellow Mushroom took the giant bite out of the Commons.

JaxAvondale

Quote from: Know Growth on July 09, 2016, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: Sentient on July 08, 2016, 12:16:33 AM
And..... now PULP in Avondale is permanently closed...  R.I.P.

I live nearby,went twice and then skipped it in favor of Grassroots.

I have yet to try Grassroots. I will have to try it soon now that Pulp is gone.

mtraininjax

Quoteso how is all that pizza armageddon thing going for you?

Apparently well, in so much as the entire place was packed Sunday for the World Cup final, no tables available anywhere. Nice!
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

JaxAvondale

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Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on July 12, 2016, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on July 12, 2016, 12:27:39 AM
Quoteso how is all that pizza armageddon thing going for you?

Apparently well, in so much as the entire place was packed Sunday for the World Cup final,...

*SMDH*

Mellow was replaying the Germany vs. Argentina match.  ;)

Know Growth

Quote from: stephendare on July 09, 2016, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: Know Growth on July 09, 2016, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 30, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
With Pulp and Mojo's coming to Avondale, the area will be a dining hub for that whole side of town.  It's like the dining component of the SJTC without the clear cutting, traffic jams, scorching heat, and parking lots.

I think the Avondale strip could use another night spot.  Hopefully Mojo's will stay open late to help meet this need. 

What a difference half a decade makes  8)

Mojo's late late night hours scaled back,having lost the Crowd to King Street.

And the assumptions behind the 2 million price tag for Monty's evaporated,as one aspiring buyer discovered; Mellow Mushroom took the giant bite out of the Commons.

yawn.  so how is all that pizza armageddon thing going for you?  Didn't you promise the complete destruction of the neighborhood?  As well as do a lot of name calling back when Mellow Mushroom was trying to get open?  By the way, it was nice to see you inside the restaurant that you tried so hard to keep from opening.  How was the food?

Endless Pizza Loop!!  :)
I have been to Mellow Mushroom four times since opening. One visit was late night,wife's birthday, acquaintances at the bar,complimentary drinks....and drinks.....had no business driving an automobile home; new resolve to Not Do That Again.
The best MM visit was by bike,sat at couch next to open wall door- put my feet up on the sill.Alas, prime seating like that is rare.

Always sure to produce a giant yawn.....MMmost potential harmful effects mitigated during application process,thanks to We Love Avondale,including the role of a former Clay County Planner who facilitated the First Coast Outer Beltway,all the while residing in Avondale and would eventually team up with WLA. Outer Beltway and RAP Overlay substantial deviation proposal sociology, certain driving narratives have proven remarkable in similarity.

Know Growth

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Quote from: stephendare on July 13, 2016, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: Know Growth on July 13, 2016, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: stephendare on July 09, 2016, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: Know Growth on July 09, 2016, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 30, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
With Pulp and Mojo's coming to Avondale, the area will be a dining hub for that whole side of town.  It's like the dining component of the SJTC without the clear cutting, traffic jams, scorching heat, and parking lots.

I think the Avondale strip could use another night spot.  Hopefully Mojo's will stay open late to help meet this need. 

What a difference half a decade makes  8)

Mojo's late late night hours scaled back,having lost the Crowd to King Street.

And the assumptions behind the 2 million price tag for Monty's evaporated,as one aspiring buyer discovered; Mellow Mushroom took the giant bite out of the Commons.

yawn.  so how is all that pizza armageddon thing going for you?  Didn't you promise the complete destruction of the neighborhood?  As well as do a lot of name calling back when Mellow Mushroom was trying to get open?  By the way, it was nice to see you inside the restaurant that you tried so hard to keep from opening.  How was the food?

Endless Pizza Loop!!  :)
I have been to Mellow Mushroom four times since opening. One visit was late night,wife's birthday, acquaintances at the bar,complimentary drinks....and drinks.....had no business driving an automobile home; new resolve to Not Do That Again.
The best MM visit was by bike,sat at couch next to open wall door- put my feet up on the sill.Alas, prime seating like that is rare.

Always sure to produce a giant yawn.....MMmost potential harmful effects mitigated during application process,thanks to We Love Avondale,including the role of a former Clay County Planner who facilitated the First Coast Outer Beltway,all the while residing in Avondale and would eventually team up with WLA. Outer Beltway and RAP Overlay substantial deviation proposal sociology, certain driving narratives have proven remarkable in similarity.

well I think its very big of you to frequent a place that you helped cost a couple of hundred thousand dollars in expenses. Especially after claiming that it would destroy the neighborhood.

Also, WLA lost. Your changes didn't improve the site design or the business plan. They just cost someone else money and good will defending themselves.

But its good to hear that you liked the pizza.

Personally I would have liked the initial proposed but withdrawn roof top music with sound attenuation device. Is that still possible under current Vesting??

The scale of the property and intensity,which of course after all,is much more than a corner gas station lot,assures maximum income generation. A focus solely on the corner lot, myriad cool ideas/scaled back project was an option- not low profit version.
The Substantial Deviation Application costs could also be chalked up to business as usual,ask for more than what you expect.No doubt the Applicant has fairly easily incurred the public process costs and in fact,even that aspect is good for the economy- well paid attorney.