More than 50 shot to death, multiple injuries in Orlando Mass Shooting at Downtown Gay Bar

[Spitfire]

omg I hate Rick Scott. Instead of calling it out as homophobia, he's calling it an act of terrorism only.  And of course he didn't mention anything about guns, despite having politicized it fully with his speech.

Did he mention that it was a gay club or just "a club?" A lot of the media are doing that today. They are leaving out the word "gay" or "LGBT."

[The_Choose_1]

omg I hate Rick Scott. Instead of calling it out as homophobia, he's calling it an act of terrorism only.  And of course he didn't mention anything about guns, despite having politicized it fully with his speech.

What we know

    A gunman opened fire inside Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., killing 50 people and leaving 53 others hospitalized in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
    The gunman, who was carrying an assault-style rifle, handgun and possibly an explosive device, is dead after exchanging fire with officers at 5 a.m. He had taken hostages after trying to flee.
    The FBI is treating the shooting as an act of terrorism.
    The suspect was identified as Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old U.S. citizen whose family is believed to be from Afghanistan. Federal officials are investigating Mateen's possible ties to radical terror organizations.
    Mateen's father expressed shock over the attack, saying his son may have had "anti-gay" leanings.
    Witnesses at the club described a chaotic scene.
    Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer declared a state of emergency as officials throughout the state asked the public for blood donations.
    Blood donation centers are looking for O negative, O positive and A/B donors.
    President Obama is expected to make a statement on the massacre at 1:30 p.m. https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-fla-ap-gunman-wielding-000000701.html

[Adam White]

omg I hate Rick Scott. Instead of calling it out as homophobia, he's calling it an act of terrorism only.  And of course he didn't mention anything about guns, despite having politicized it fully with his speech.

What we know

    A gunman opened fire inside Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., killing 50 people and leaving 53 others hospitalized in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
    The gunman, who was carrying an assault-style rifle, handgun and possibly an explosive device, is dead after exchanging fire with officers at 5 a.m. He had taken hostages after trying to flee.
    The FBI is treating the shooting as an act of terrorism.
    The suspect was identified as Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old U.S. citizen whose family is believed to be from Afghanistan. Federal officials are investigating Mateen's possible ties to radical terror organizations.
    Mateen's father expressed shock over the attack, saying his son may have had "anti-gay" leanings.
    Witnesses at the club described a chaotic scene.
    Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer declared a state of emergency as officials throughout the state asked the public for blood donations.
    Blood donation centers are looking for O negative, O positive and A/B donors.
    President Obama is expected to make a statement on the massacre at 1:30 p.m. https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-fla-ap-gunman-wielding-000000701.html

That was from four hours ago.  Since then, both the father and the former wife have been interviewed.

The governor is deliberately politicizing the issue away from his own political wheelhouse.

Yeah, and I can't see any reason why it's not possible to consider it both an act of terrorism and a hate crime. It's clearly a hate crime.

[fsquid]

It's both.  These guys clearly hate gays based on what they do overseas.

[Adam White]

It's both.  These guys clearly hate gays based on what they do overseas.

Well, we don't know enough about his religion to know if he is of the ilk that 'hate gays' (IS, etc).

[fsquid]

It's both.  These guys clearly hate gays based on what they do overseas.

Well, we don't know enough about his religion to know if he is of the ilk that 'hate gays' (IS, etc).

They just said he was an ISIS sympathizer.  Last I checked, they don't like the gays

[Adam White]

It's both.  These guys clearly hate gays based on what they do overseas.

Well, we don't know enough about his religion to know if he is of the ilk that 'hate gays' (IS, etc).

They just said he was an ISIS sympathizer.  Last I checked, they don't like the gays

As far as I know, they've not confirmed he is an IS sympathiser. There were comments about him being 'radical' though. I've not read everything out there, so I am willing to admit I'm not 100% on this. His dad apparently said it wasn't anything to do with religion.

It could be his homophobia is a byproduct of his religious beliefs or it could be that his religious beliefs dovetailed nicely with his existing homophobia

It's all just really sad.

[fsquid]

Sorry just saw the blurb on NBC between Euro games

[fsquid]

Dude is a bit older than 13

[Adam White]

It's probably a bit too soon for any of us to try to reach conclusions about the gunman's motivation(s).

[peestandingup]

It's probably a bit too soon for any of us to try to reach conclusions about the gunman's motivation(s).

Sure. Check Islamic law on homosexuality & get back to me. Spoiler: It's death.

[Adam White]

It's probably a bit too soon for any of us to try to reach conclusions about the gunman's motivation(s).

Sure. Check Islamic law on homosexuality & get back to me. Spoiler: It's death.

Funny that - I have a number of Muslim friends and none of them have any issues with homosexuals. Maybe you should get out more.

[peestandingup]

It's probably a bit too soon for any of us to try to reach conclusions about the gunman's motivation(s).

Sure. Check Christian law on homosexuality & get back to me. Spoiler: It's death.

http://www.rawstory.com/2014/09/tn-pastor-vows-not-to-repent-for-homophobia-god-says-gays-must-be-put-to-death/

Brainerd Baptist Church Senior Pastor Robby Gallaty devoted his entire hour-long sermon on Sunday to justifying Christian opposition to the sexuality of LGBT people.

After spending about 20 minutes recounting the perils of homosexuality throughout history, Gallaty asserted that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by God because of gay sex.

"God said that the sins of the people had infected the very land in which they live," he explained. "So what happens to people who engage in this activity, this sexual immoral activity? Go to Leviticus 20, God gives us the punishment for engaging in these sins... 'If a man sleeps with a man as with a woman, they have both committed a detestable thing. They must be put to death. And their blood is on their own hands.'"

Totally the same! Now show me the times Christian nut jobs actually carried out murder of homosexuals in modern times, and I'll show you how the other guys do it on a day to day basis (among many other horrible punishments towards women).

Why the left chooses to defend them when it goes against pretty much everything they stand for I'll never know.

It's probably a bit too soon for any of us to try to reach conclusions about the gunman's motivation(s).

Sure. Check Islamic law on homosexuality & get back to me. Spoiler: It's death.

Funny that - I have a number of Muslim friends and none of them have any issues with homosexuals. Maybe you should get out more.

They may not, but unfortunately many of the more hardcore ones do (and actually act upon it harshly). And I get out plenty. Any other snide remarks??

[Adam White]

They may not, but unfortunately many of the more hardcore ones do (and actually act upon it harshly). And I get out plenty. Any other snide remarks??

You're so predictable. You might "get out plenty" but I suspect you don't spend much time with Muslims. Because if you did, you'd probably see that the overwhelming majority of Muslims - even the quite religious (or 'hardcore') ones - are just like any other people who happen to go to church. They may even believe that homosexuality is wrong, but that doesn't mean they'd want to kill their neighbours.

Islamist terrorists are no different than christian identity terrorists - or the hindu mobs that slaughter muslims in India. And no one bothers to paint all christians or hindus with the same brush just because a very small number commit atrocities in the name of their faith. But bigots like you are the first to start in on that sort of thing when a muslim is involved.

[peestandingup]

They may not, but unfortunately many of the more hardcore ones do (and actually act upon it harshly). And I get out plenty. Any other snide remarks??

And no one bothers to paint all christians or hindus with the same brush just because a very small number commit atrocities in the name of their faith. But bigots like you are the first to start in on that sort of thing when a muslim is involved.

Yet this very board bashes Christians as a whole every other post. Its just when someone brings up a pet religion to the left its a "phobe" meltdown tantrum like you're having now. Funny how that happens isn't it.

And try to refrain from name calling, pal just because my post got your poopie diapers in a bunch. You don't know anything about me. Grow up & have a civil discussion or just don't reply.