JSO involved shooting in Springfield

Started by sheclown, May 23, 2016, 07:48:40 AM

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A suspect was shot by a police officer after a pursuit Sunday evening in the Springfield area, according to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.

Investigators said at about 5:48, a red Chevrolet Camaro that was used in a previous shooting in April was spotted by officers. After police attempted to stop the driver, he drove away.

A police officer spotted the car on Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway. He called for assistance, and the officers tried to stop the vehicle. The vehicle continued into the Moncrief area at a high rate of speed, then drove into Springfield.

The man reach Ionia Street when another officer, T.I. Landerville, was traveling on Liberty Street. The man turned west on 9th Street and the officer turned east onto 9th. The man hit the officer head on, disabling the cruiser.

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The man's car went into a building. That's when investigators said the officer got out of the cruiser and approached him.

"The police officer was giving commands to the suspect who was in the car, the suspect did not obey the commands, he got out of the car and something happened to cause the officer to un-holster his weapon and to shoot the suspect," Chief Chris Butler said.

Police said the officer fired the gun five times, but they're still investigating how many times the suspect was hit and where. That man's injuries are said to be life-threatening. He is at UF Health Jacksonville.

The officer involved in the crash was also taken to the hospital for injuries described as minor and has since been released.

A second press conference on the incident will be held at 10 a.m. Monday.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/officer-involved-shooting-in-springfield

sheclown


JaxAvondale

Well, it would seem completely reasonable for any witness to not speak with the media until the police have completed their investigation of the scene.

sheclown

News crews were at the location most of the day.

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QuoteJACKSONVILLE, Fla. - The 22-year-old man shot by a police officer Sunday afternoon had just led officers on 3.7-mile high-speed chase and appears to have intentionally struck the officer's cruiser on a Springfield street, according to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.

Vernell Bing Jr. was shot once in the side of the head and remains in intensive care at UF Health Jacksonville.
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    Police pursuit ends in crash, suspect shot

JSO Chief Chris Butler said no gun was found on Bing or in his car.

Butler said Bing was in a red Chevrolet Camaro that was wanted in connection with an April shootout was spotted Sunday afternoon in Northwest Jacksonville. After the collision, the Camaro's metrics showed it was going 53 mph and not braking when it struck Officer Tyler Landreville's oncoming cruiser on 9th Street.

Landreville's cruiser was disabled and Bing's car left the road and struck a building. Butler said Landreville got out of his car and walked toward the Camaro without pulling his weapon and ordering the man, who was out of his car, to surrender. Butler said something caused Landreville to pull his gun and fire five times, one bullet striking Bing.

Butler said he wasn't sure exactly what was said, and because the JSO is not allowed to interview Landreville until the State Attorney's Office completes its investigation to see if the shooting was justified, police are asking witnesses of the shooting to call 904-630-0500.

Butler acknowledged reports circulating in the community that Bing was shot five times or in the back as he was running away, the facts show Bing was shot once in the side of his head.

"We want exactly what the community wants; we want a thorough investigation," Butler said. "With your help, we can make sure any witnesses that might be out there come forward and give us that information."

Landreville is a seven-year veteran of the Sheriff's Office. Butler said this was his first officer-involved shooting.

Bing has a previous history with police, having been arrested for car theft, resisting arrest, burglary, trespassing, falsifying his identity and driving without a license.

In the wake of the seventh police-involved shooting of the year, several civil rights leaders have renewed their call for body cameras. Butler said Sheriff Mike Williams is in favor of body cameras, but wants to ensure there is adequate funding and administration in place before using them.
Events leading up to the shooting

Bing and red Camaro wanted
On May 13, police released this photo of a man and a red Camaro wanted in connection with a shooting April 16 at the 11th Street Tire Shop.

Police said Landreville spotted the Camaro wanted in an April shooting on Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway. He called for assistance, and the officers tried to stop the vehicle. The vehicle continued into the Moncrief area at a high rate of speed, then drove into Springfield, police said.

The Camero reached Ionia Street when Landreville was traveling on Liberty Street. The man turned west on 9th Street and the officer turned east onto 9th. The man hit the officer head on, disabling the cruiser, police said.

The man's car went into a building. That's when Landreville got out of the cruiser and approached him.

Bing's injuries were said to be life-threatening.

Landreville was also taken to the hospital for injuries from the accident, was treated and released.

A man who said he witnessed the shooting told News4Jax the officer the man was limping as he was trying to get away.

"(The officer) was no more than three or four feet away from him," Eric Coleman said. "He could have tackled the man instead of shooting him, but he chose to shoot this man."

Coleman went on to say that once the suspect was hit and fell to the ground, the officer "shot him three or four more times."

Chief Butler reiterated that Bing was only hit by one bullet.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/officer-involved-shooting-in-springfield_

sheclown

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Vigil/protest being held now at the corner of Liberty and 9th. 

Several women are holding up hand made signs which read "SAVE OUR SONS".  A handful of supporters surround them on the NW corner.

Press is there.

And standing a half a block away is a JSO car.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Is it wrong that I don't find this particularly newsworthy?

Do stupid things, get stupid results.  And that doesn't mean that I'm justifying the shooting, but I'm definitely not going to ignore the fact that his fleeing led to the outcome.
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sheclown

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on May 23, 2016, 04:46:56 PM
Is it wrong that I don't find this particularly newsworthy?

Do stupid things, get stupid results.  And that doesn't mean that I'm justifying the shooting, but I'm definitely not going to ignore the fact that his fleeing led to the outcome.

Yeah.  Its wrong.  The man was unarmed.  And the fleeing was more like a limping along.

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QuoteSuspect in Sunday's police-involved shooting has died; incident sparks concerns from civil rights groups
22-year-old suspect has died



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The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office said Monday that 22-year-old Vernell Charles Bing was shot one time in the side of the head by a police officer following a chase and crash Sunday and was brain dead. His family said he has since died.

Two leading civil rights organizations have issued statements concerning the shooting in the 300 block of East Ninth Street near Liberty Street. The local NAACP said it is concerned about "potential excessive" force in this and other police-involved incidents recently.

Bing was shot just before 6 p.m. Sunday after he apparently fled following a car chase that ended with a crash with a patrol car on East Ninth Street in Springfield, according to police. The officer also was taken to the hospital as a precaution, according to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.

Neighbors said gunfire erupted after the fleeing red convertible Camaro hit the patrol car head-on before slamming into the side of a building at East Ninth and Liberty streets. The Camaro driver was shot after he bailed out of the car and limped away, residents said.

Officer T.L. Landreville fired five shots, according to Sheriff's Office Chief Chris Butler.


Eric Coleman, who lives near where the chase ended and the shooting occurred, said the suspect seemed disoriented when he got out of the Camaro after.

"He was limping. Not really running. Not really walking, just limping. And the police officer hopped out of his car moving pretty fast," Coleman said.

Coleman said the officer fired a shot and the suspect, who he said did not appear to have a gun, fell to the ground. It appeared he had been shot in the back, he said.

"After the suspect fell, he continued to shoot," Coleman said of the officer. "I'd say he shot him about four or five more times."

Bing shows up on the jail's website as being absentee-booked Sunday on a charge of aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer. He's had three other minor arrests in Jacksonville, jail records show.

Jacksonville NAACP President Isaiah Rumlin issued a brief statement about the shooting. While saying the Jacksonville NAACP looks forward to continuing its work with the Sheriff's Office and Sheriff Mike Williams, "... we have great concern as it relates to the potential excessive use of force incidents involving multiple" officers over recent weeks. Rumlin said he is looking for a thorough investigation that will "reveal the truth of these incidents."

The Southern Christian Leadership Conference issued a more detailed statement as well, saying that it feels that the circumstances surrounding Sunday's shooting are "clearly questionable."

"The questionable means by which black men are shot down in the streets will not be tolerated," the letter quotes Southern Christian Leadership Conference board chairman Juan P. Gray. "The citizens of our city need some means of accountability of the JSO."

Gray said that the board refuses to rush to judgment but added that the main issues are "police accountability and the blatant distrust that exist between the police and the people they are sworn to serve and protect."

He also pointed out that some eyewitness accounts differ from what police have announced so far. Those include police "still trying to explain why a police veteran shot an unarmed man" and that witnesses say police could have handled this incident without deadly force since they said that the injured suspect was limping away from the crash site when he was shot.

In light of this shooting, the group's letter stated that a "broad range of community activists" are pushing for greater police accountability, while the Southern Christian Leadership Conference supports an immediate establishment of a citizens advisory panel to review "all questionable police shootings," the letter said.

"This panel is needed because all previous internal police reviews have been biased," Gray's letter said. "Those reviews have always substantiated police shootings as justifiable and we simply do not believe that to be true."

The group also is calling for the deployment of body cams on some police officers, adding that Sunday's police shooting was a "classic case where police body cams could have provided much needed and valuable footage."

Of Jacksonville's seven officer-involved shootings this year, five of the suspects have been black. The only fatal police shooting was May 14's Cody Nathanael Marsh, a white 19-year-old suicidal man who was waving knives and charging at officers near a downtown McDonald's.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2016-05-23/story/sundays-police-involved-shooting-sparks-concern-jacksonville-civil#

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Quote from: sheclown on May 23, 2016, 05:04:05 PM
And the fleeing was more like a limping along.

The original fleeing in the car.
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sheclown

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on May 23, 2016, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: sheclown on May 23, 2016, 05:04:05 PM
And the fleeing was more like a limping along.

The original fleeing in the car.

I didn't realize "fleeing" carried a death sentence.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: sheclown on May 23, 2016, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on May 23, 2016, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: sheclown on May 23, 2016, 05:04:05 PM
And the fleeing was more like a limping along.

The original fleeing in the car.

I didn't realize "fleeing" carried a death sentence.

I never insinuated anything of the sort.

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on May 23, 2016, 04:46:56 PM
...And that doesn't mean that I'm justifying the shooting...

But in light of yet another preventable tragedy, maybe we could start another conversation.

Let's take your comment to another level. 

"I didn't realize "fleeing" carried a death sentence."  Well....

What if fleeing was grounds for police to use deadly force? 

With the knowledge  that police would immediately open fire with intent to kill, not just disable, if you tried to run away.  Would that result in more or less shootings?

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CMG22

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on May 23, 2016, 04:46:56 PM
Do stupid things, get stupid results.  And that doesn't mean that I'm justifying the shooting, but I'm definitely not going to ignore the fact that his fleeing led to the outcome.

I agree.  I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but here's what I read:

  • JSO wanted to stop the vehicle, as it was identified as being involved in a shooting last month.  Officer is now operating under the assumption that the person in the vehicle is armed.
  • In attempting to stop the vehicle, the driver intentionally rammed the police vehicle.  Officer now knows the driver has intent to harm the officer.
  • Driver got out, was injured and dazed or otherwise.  Driver flees, doing who knows with his hands.

Anyone who has reasonable suspicion of being armed and has already shown intent to harm the officer, the minute they make a gesture looking like they're reaching for anything other than the sky, is probably going to be shot.  Ultimately, don't run from police, don't assault police, don't get shot.  It's that simple.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: stephendare on May 23, 2016, 06:05:32 PM
Why stop there?  Why not add food waste and climate change denialism to the list of capital offenses?

Other topics for other threads.

We all realize that nothing happens in a vacuum, but for this discussion, ceteris paribus - All else remains equal.

What are your personal feelings if the above were to be true?

In some of these instances, the cops have acted completely outside of the law; in some they've been provoked to beyond their own self-control; and in yet other situations, it truly seems that they've acted justifiably and within the realm of their rules.

I'm not asking anyone to take a stance or the latest tragedy, but to actually get some raw, human thoughts, since it's still fresh, on a what if scenario....
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Bill Hoff

Quote from: CMG22 on May 23, 2016, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on May 23, 2016, 04:46:56 PM
Do stupid things, get stupid results.  And that doesn't mean that I'm justifying the shooting, but I'm definitely not going to ignore the fact that his fleeing led to the outcome.

I agree.  I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but here's what I read:

  • JSO wanted to stop the vehicle, as it was identified as being involved in a shooting last month.  Officer is now operating under the assumption that the person in the vehicle is armed.
  • In attempting to stop the vehicle, the driver intentionally rammed the police vehicle.  Officer now knows the driver has intent to harm the officer.
  • Driver got out, was injured and dazed or otherwise.  Driver flees, doing who knows with his hands.

Anyone who has reasonable suspicion of being armed and has already shown intent to harm the officer, the minute they make a gesture looking like they're reaching for anything other than the sky, is probably going to be shot.  Ultimately, don't run from police, don't assault police, don't get shot.  It's that simple.

Winner winner, chicken dinner.