Roost Cafe and Coffee shop trying to open on Oak St?

Started by JHAT76, October 27, 2015, 09:04:57 AM

Ming The Merciless

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 12, 2016, 05:27:59 AM
And Bowman co-sponsored the LGBT HRO bill back in January, some friend he is to the district and its residents.

Yeah, the LBGT population in Riverside/Avondale is zero.  For sure, nobody over there cares about discrimination.  Excellent point. 

And incredibly relevant.

Kudos.

JeffreyS

I still see both sides on this one.  That said I personally am excited about another lunch option in the area.
Lenny Smash

UNFurbanist

Yeah, I think that fighting this is dumb. It is just another Mellow Mushroom situation. Once it is up and running no one will even notice it's there except when they want to grab something to eat or drink and they can walk only a few blocks. Old people need to get over it. The NIMBY attitudes in Riverside are crazy.

mtraininjax

With what happened in Atlantic Beach with the residents protesting the Gate station and the City going ahead anyway and allowing Gate to proceed, the City will do the same thing with the Roost. The residents, overlay be damned, will get screwed in the end.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

dp8541

a portion of the residents may perceive they will have been "screwed"

mtraininjax

Quotea portion of the residents may perceive they will have been "screwed"

What's more is that it was not a RAP or Jim Love decision, but the City and Planning departments that are siding with the developer. Jim Love voted against it as 150 seat barnyard, and RAP suggested the quaint 60 seat option. But the Planning Committee, stacked with morons who live on the Southside behind gated communities chose to ignore their fellow councilman and the neighborhood community.

The little man be damned here in Jax. The homeowner cannot change out a window without RAP approval, but a developer can run roughshod over the community with a bit of money. I hope they choke on the product they put out, America for sale to the highest bidder.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

tufsu1

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 18, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
But the Planning Committee, stacked with morons who live on the Southside behind gated communities chose to ignore their fellow councilman and the neighborhood community.

What exactly is the Planning Committee and who are these morons you speak of?

mtraininjax

QuoteWhat exactly is the Planning Committee and who are these morons you speak of?

Check the previous posts and stories....they are there and were quoted in the Planning meetings...
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Captain Zissou

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 18, 2016, 10:57:41 AM
QuoteWhat exactly is the Planning Committee and who are these morons you speak of?

Check the previous posts and stories....they are there and were quoted in the Planning meetings...

Seriously TUFSU!!! Educate yourself! Gosh!!!!

MEGATRON

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 18, 2016, 10:17:30 AM
With what happened in Atlantic Beach with the residents protesting the Gate station and the City going ahead anyway and allowing Gate to proceed, the City will do the same thing with the Roost. The residents, overlay be damned, will get screwed in the end.
Going ahead and allowing?  You mean the City agreed that Gate's proposed development satisfied zoning and building requirements.  Or, are you suggesting that the City should agree with local residents regardless of the zoning designation of a particular property?
PEACE THROUGH TYRANNY

UNFurbanist

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 18, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
Quotea portion of the residents may perceive they will have been "screwed"

What's more is that it was not a RAP or Jim Love decision, but the City and Planning departments that are siding with the developer. Jim Love voted against it as 150 seat barnyard, and RAP suggested the quaint 60 seat option. But the Planning Committee, stacked with morons who live on the Southside behind gated communities chose to ignore their fellow councilman and the neighborhood community.

The little man be damned here in Jax. The homeowner cannot change out a window without RAP approval, but a developer can run roughshod over the community with a bit of money. I hope they choke on the product they put out, America for sale to the highest bidder.

Can't wait until this place opens up! Just like Mellow Mushroom, everyone will realize it's no big deal when it is finally running. Especially since every neighbor isn't against it. NIMBYs be damned!

Adam White

Quote from: UNFurbanist on May 18, 2016, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 18, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
Quotea portion of the residents may perceive they will have been "screwed"

What's more is that it was not a RAP or Jim Love decision, but the City and Planning departments that are siding with the developer. Jim Love voted against it as 150 seat barnyard, and RAP suggested the quaint 60 seat option. But the Planning Committee, stacked with morons who live on the Southside behind gated communities chose to ignore their fellow councilman and the neighborhood community.

The little man be damned here in Jax. The homeowner cannot change out a window without RAP approval, but a developer can run roughshod over the community with a bit of money. I hope they choke on the product they put out, America for sale to the highest bidder.

Can't wait until this place opens up! Just like Mellow Mushroom, everyone will realize it's no big deal when it is finally running. Especially since every neighbor isn't against it. NIMBYs be damned!

I used to live across from that site - a few doors down, though. I wouldn't want a restaurant there. I't different in many ways from Mellow Mushroom because it's surrounded in houses. But whatever. It's easy to moan about "NIMBYs" when you only benefit and are not negatively impacted.

"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

FlaBoy

Yeah. But if it is good I bet many of the same people complaining will be walking across the street to go and will brag to their friends about their proximity   ;)

UNFurbanist

I suppose. I mainly posted that facetiously. However, I'll be moving into a place just down the street soon so I see this as a great opportunity to easily get food and beer within a short walk.

Adam White

Quote from: FlaBoy on May 18, 2016, 03:34:02 PM
Yeah. But if it is good I bet many of the same people complaining will be walking across the street to go and will brag to their friends about their proximity   ;)

True. Hopefully it will work out where it isn't a disruption for the residents. They'd probably be really happy if it did - the opposition probably stems from a worry that it will be noisy and they won't be able to do anything about it.  They probably don't believe the developers and I can't say I blame them.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."