NC Rescinds Charlotte HRO

[finehoe]

North Carolina Republicans were so offended that the city of Charlotte passed a local non-discrimination law that they convened a special legislative session to block the city from doing it. The city ordinance bans public places from discriminating against people based on sexual orientation or identity. Gov. Pat McCrory signed the bill overturning the city ordinance Wednesday night.

So much for the Republican conviction that small and local government is better.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article67731847.html

[dp8541]

The State is likely to back down from this stance.  Corps like PayPal, AA, and Apple are already taking a public stance against the new law.  The NBA is also threatening to remove the allstar weekend from Charlotte next year if this law holds up.  If common sense and ethics do not get this new law shot down, then the lost revenue to the state will.

[whyisjohngalt]

It's the most expansive non discrimination law passed including race, religion, color, national origin or biological sex.
It doesnt include LGBT so it's wrong? Where's the compromise? This is good and we all know these definitions will be expanded in the future.  The bathroom bill jargon scared the state reps and they may have won the battle but the precedent is set for LGBT stuff to be added.  Don't know about bathrooms tho.  Segregated toilets might stick for awhile.

[finehoe]

It's the most expansive non discrimination law passed including race, religion, color, national origin or biological sex.
It doesnt include LGBT so it's wrong? Where's the compromise?

So what was the point of eliminating the LGBT protections the local bill included?

[spuwho]

If memory serves, this started as a bathroom bill and morphed thereafter.

It seems the US is Ok with LGBT until it comes to their kids bathrooms at school.

I have read a few articles about various bathroom bills in various government entities around the country. Many of the smaller school districts were up in arms over accomodation and were fearing lawsuits on both sides.

The fact that we have to legislate bathroom laws is kind of pathetic.

[finehoe]

I'd be willing to wager that there have been more Republican politicians arrested for doing untoward things in bathrooms than there have been trans people.  Just sayin'.

[I-10east]

^^^The most notable case is Larry Craig from Idaho, who is LGBT and Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal

[finehoe]

^^^The most notable case is Larry Craig from Idaho, who is LGBT and Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal

Larry Craig is married to a woman and identifies as straight.

[Adam White]

^^^The most notable case is Larry Craig from Idaho, who is LGBT and Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal

Larry Craig is married to a woman and identifies as straight.

But he clearly isn't straight. He may be bisexual, but he's clearly not straight.

[finehoe]

But he clearly isn't straight. He may be bisexual, but he's clearly not straight.

He's clearly whatever he says he is.  It's not up to you or me to decide his sexuality for him, just like it's not up to the NC legislature to decide which restroom a trans person feels more at ease using.

[Adam White]

But he clearly isn't straight. He may be bisexual, but he's clearly not straight.

He's clearly whatever he says he is.  It's not up to you or me to decide his sexuality for him, just like it's not up to the NC legislature to decide which restroom a trans person feels more at ease using.

He apparently has a history of having sex with men. I might claim to be left handed, but that doesn't mean I am.

[finehoe]

I might claim to be left handed, but that doesn't mean I am.

"I might claim to be a man, but without a penis that doesn't mean I am."

Perhaps you should run for office in North Carolina.

[Adam White]

I might claim to be left handed, but that doesn't mean I am.

"I might claim to be a man, but without a penis that doesn't mean I am."

Perhaps you should run for office in North Carolina.

I think it's interesting how you are so quick to pass judgment on my comments and basically call me a bigot (by stating I should run for the NCGA). I guess you're just a bit of a hypocrite.

I know you don't deal with people even slightly disagreeing with you (or questioning anything you ever post), but you don't know me at all.

I quibble with your statement that Larry Graig is straight and now that means I apparently support the actions of the Republican-led NCGA. You're a fucking genius.

[finehoe]

I think it's interesting how you are so quick to pass judgment on my comments and basically call me a bigot (by stating I should run for the NCGA). I guess you're just a bit of a hypocrite.

I know you don't deal with people even slightly disagreeing with you (or questioning anything you ever post), but you don't know me at all.

I quibble with your statement that Larry Graig is straight and now that means I apparently support the actions of the Republican-led NCGA. You're a fucking genius.

Larry Craig says he is straight.  That's not my opinion, it's a fact.  Just because you don't get it or don't understand it doesn't make it any less true.  It's not "calling you a bigot" to point out that the same thought processes that apparently won't allow you to accept the reality that some men who have sex with other men still identify as straight is no different than the thought processes that won't allow some folks to accept the reality that some people who are born as one sex identify as the other.

I'm at a loss as to what is "hypocritical" about this, other than your own position.

[Adam White]

I think it's interesting how you are so quick to pass judgment on my comments and basically call me a bigot (by stating I should run for the NCGA). I guess you're just a bit of a hypocrite.

I know you don't deal with people even slightly disagreeing with you (or questioning anything you ever post), but you don't know me at all.

I quibble with your statement that Larry Graig is straight and now that means I apparently support the actions of the Republican-led NCGA. You're a fucking genius.

Larry Craig says he is straight.  That's not my opinion, it's a fact.  Just because you don't get it or don't understand it doesn't make it any less true.  It's not "calling you a bigot" to point out that the same thought processes that apparently won't allow you to accept the reality that some men who have sex with other men still identify as straight is no different than the thought processes that won't allow some folks to accept the reality that some people who are born as one sex identify as the other.

I'm at a loss as to what is "hypocritical" about this, other than your own position.

So, because Larry Craig says he is straight, it is a fact? Does that mean that if Donald Trump says he isn't racist, it's a fact, too?

I never said Larry Craig didn't identify with being straight or consider himself straight. That is something you've now added after the fact to "strengthen" your position.

I said, "But he clearly isn't straight. He may be bisexual, but he's clearly not straight."

My comment specifically is pointing out the gap between what he thinks he is and what he actually is. As you can see, I never contended otherwise. I never said that Craig doesn't think he's straight. I said he's gay or bi. Actions sometimes speak louder than words.

To wit: you claim to be a liberal, but act like a nazi whenever anyone disagrees with you.

None of this has anything to do with the decision of the NCGA and you don't know my opinion on it. In fact, you've not asked for it. But that hasn't stopped you from labeling me by implication - solely because I had the gall to appear to disagree with you on a minor point (which I was mainly making a joke about - not disagreeing with you about).