New Development coming to Brooklyn's Park Street?

[CCMjax]

Five Points and Kings Avenue on the Southbank were also once dumps. So was Ybor and South Beach during the 1980s.


Building demolished yesterday

Historical characteristics, such as narrow 19th century era streets and zero lot line front yard setbacks that make Brooklyn unique to Jax. Those are environmental and contextual features worth preserving, IMO. They build character and image....the things Jax has lost that can't be replaced by stucco buildings with big parking lots.

Where was that building in the picture?

[acme54321]

Five Points and Kings Avenue on the Southbank were also once dumps. So was Ybor and South Beach during the 1980s.


Building demolished yesterday

Historical characteristics, such as narrow 19th century era streets and zero lot line front yard setbacks that make Brooklyn unique to Jax. Those are environmental and contextual features worth preserving, IMO. They build character and image....the things Jax has lost that can't be replaced by stucco buildings with big parking lots.

Where was that building in the picture?

https://goo.gl/maps/iRhwn6WNVWB2

Clearly it had been modified extensively, but you can still see one star of david on the side.  Who knows, some of this original architecture might have been hidden under that ugly façade. 

[thelakelander]

While in Toledo a few years back, I noticed the paneling missing from this ugly 50s/60s era facade. We have a few examples in Jax. This little ugly building was probably one of them.

While I won't lose any sleep over this building coming down, you'll be amazed at what's actually behind the walls of modified old buildings in Jax and across this country in general. In any event, hopefully something new and exciting is built in this location that amounts to more than just another surface lot.

[Tacachale]

I'm not concerned with particular buildings coming down, if they're not historic and they're being replaced by something. What does bother me is losing urban-style buildings and fabric when they're replaced by empty lots or suburban style developments. Unfortunately this will probably continue in Brooklyn.

I think it would be a shame to lose all the urban-style warehouses on Park. They're mostly full now, but I can see it happening when the offers from developers start to exceed the cost of relocating for the business and owners. Most of them are nothing special in and of themselves, but the collection of dense, streetfronting buildings could be turned into something really cool by developers with a bit of vision. In Asheville, a place not too different from this has become an arts district.

I don't think the few houses northwest of Chelsea will probably make it. If anything, I'd rather the development pattern jump over there and skip Park Street. But we're already seeing the Park Street buildings disappearing.

[vicupstate]

If you take the time to search you will see a huge amount of turnover in Brooklyn properties since about 1/1/14. Putting the 2014 and 2015 Sales filters on coj.net only shows a few of them. You have to look parcel by parcel. There are about 5-7 names that each own many properties and many of those have the same contact address.  Investors are obviously buying up the whole area.

Lake is absolutely right about keeping the urban fabric and saving at least some or most of the buildings. Visionaries could easily convert this area into something nice WITHOUT demolishing everything in sight. It would also happen faster that way and would have character that newly built never would. Virtually every city has learned this lesson except Jacksonville.   

[Tacachale]

^If the parcels on Park Street are already owned by developers, it's probably too late for the strip. I don't think the HPC is going to get into the business of landmarking a couple of warehouses, which is about the only way developers might change their plans.

[acme54321]

While in Toledo a few years back, I noticed the paneling missing from this ugly 50s/60s era facade. We have a few examples in Jax. This little ugly building was probably one of them.

While I won't lose any sleep over this building coming down, you'll be amazed at what's actually behind the walls of modified old buildings in Jax and across this country in general. In any event, hopefully something new and exciting is built in this location that amounts to more than just another surface lot.

I'm really curious about the old gas company building next to Burrito Gallery. 

[Wacca Pilatka]

^ I'm not sure if the original appearance of the Gas Company building can be restored, but it was beautiful.  A Klutho prairie design.

I know there were posts on here a while back about prospects for uncovering the original Klutho design of the Claude Nolan building in Springfield, too.

[acme54321]

^ I'm not sure if the original appearance of the Gas Company building can be restored, but it was beautiful.  A Klutho prairie design.

I know there were posts on here a while back about prospects for uncovering the original Klutho design of the Claude Nolan building in Springfield, too.

Yeah, but you can always dream.

I think there is still hope for a few of these:  http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-apr-landmarks-altered-beyond-recognition-news4jax

[ChrisG]

A person that owns property on Lee st. has mentioned a Multi Story Storage Unit Business Building.

[Gunnar]

Five Points and Kings Avenue on the Southbank were also once dumps. So was Ybor and South Beach during the 1980s.


Building demolished yesterday

Historical characteristics, such as narrow 19th century era streets and zero lot line front yard setbacks that make Brooklyn unique to Jax. Those are environmental and contextual features worth preserving, IMO. They build character and image....the things Jax has lost that can't be replaced by stucco buildings with big parking lots.

Where was that building in the picture?

https://goo.gl/maps/iRhwn6WNVWB2

Clearly it had been modified extensively, but you can still see one star of david on the side.  Who knows, some of this original architecture might have been hidden under that ugly façade.

Wow, it must have taken quite an effort to uglify this building. Quite a shame since in it's original shape it was both pretty and interesting.

[CCMjax]

Five Points and Kings Avenue on the Southbank were also once dumps. So was Ybor and South Beach during the 1980s.


Building demolished yesterday

Historical characteristics, such as narrow 19th century era streets and zero lot line front yard setbacks that make Brooklyn unique to Jax. Those are environmental and contextual features worth preserving, IMO. They build character and image....the things Jax has lost that can't be replaced by stucco buildings with big parking lots.

Where was that building in the picture?

https://goo.gl/maps/iRhwn6WNVWB2

Clearly it had been modified extensively, but you can still see one star of david on the side.  Who knows, some of this original architecture might have been hidden under that ugly façade.

Wow, it must have taken quite an effort to uglify this building. Quite a shame since in it's original shape it was both pretty and interesting.

What a shame.  That was a very cool building.  Can't believe what it became before they demoed, pretty crazy how ugly it got.

[mtraininjax]

Five Points and Kings Avenue on the Southbank were also once dumps. So was Ybor and South Beach during the 1980s.

You certainly have your work cut out for you in Springfield. Save 'em all. 

[vicupstate]

Coincidentally, just today this project was announced in my home city, Greenville SC. 

Take my word for it, these buildings are more distressed, downtrodden and 'plain-old warehouse' looking than anything on Park Street.  And while it is near a popular walking/biking trail, and a FUTURE park, the drive by traffic is next to nil.   

http://upstatebusinessjournal.com/news/11-20-ubj-square-feet-the-commons-to-include-feed-seed-community-tap-carolina-triathlon-and-other-businesses/

[CCMjax]

Coincidentally, just today this project was announced in my home city, Greenville SC. 

Take my word for it, these buildings are more distressed, downtrodden and 'plain-old warehouse' looking than anything on Park Street.  And while it is near a popular walking/biking trail, and a FUTURE park, the drive by traffic is next to nil.   

http://upstatebusinessjournal.com/news/11-20-ubj-square-feet-the-commons-to-include-feed-seed-community-tap-carolina-triathlon-and-other-businesses/

I lived in Greenville before moving to Jax 3 years ago.  Greenville is much further along in terms of downtown redevelopment and progressive reuse ideas than Jax is.  They have saved many of their older buildings in  and around downtown and repurposed them.  It will take a little while for the business minds here in Jax to be at that same level but I think it will come.  Just need some major restoration projects to get under way so people here can see the value in the older buildings.