Laura Street Trio in Trouble? Updated status of six key Downtown projects

[CCMjax]

Ok so how do we show city hall that this is something we care about deeply and we are not 850,000 totally apathetic and clueless citizens and we want this project done?  Show up in front of City Hall with our "Historic Buildings' Lives Matter" T-shirts and signs?  Just kidding . . . . . . . .  actually not really, I kind of like that.  Who at city hall needs the Peterbrooke basket of chocolates dropped off at their desk in order to push this through and who's on that?  Stephen?

[thelakelander]

So this is still the plan?

[BoldCityRealist]

What's the plans for the surface parking lot on Forsyth Street, between Laura and Main Streets?

With Steve now.

The plan is to build a parking structure. One that would be large enough to accommodate the greater market downtown, not just the development.  Plans have been submitted to the city that are basically identical to the ones we printed last.

So a parking structure with ground level retail and dining space?

Yes that is the proposal now.  It has a ground level retail built right into the plan.  There has already been interest in this space.

I ask because replacing that block long surface parking lot on Forsyth, with something that generates pedestrian activity and foot traffic, is just as big as restoring the vacant buildings across the street. This is a component of this redevelopment project that has been overlooked by most, IMO.

Agreed - one of the most exciting things from the plans last year was the proposal to turn the Regions surface lot across the street (at Forsyth and Laura) into a park and turn the surface lot down the street (at Forsyth and Main) into a garage with first floor retail space.

[thelakelander]

I don't know. I'm sure he's got money invested into more than Flex-N-Gate. As far as Flex-N-Gate goes, I also don't know what the context of each location is and what the development of each location included. In other words, I don't think we can claim that he does or does not have any successful projects without really getting into his background.

[coredumped]

Under Brown, the question seemed to by 'why should' we do this?.  Under Curry so far, the question has been 'How can" we do this?

Curry continues to impress. I'll admit I was skeptical about him at first, but he's do a lot of things right!

[tufsu1]

I don't know. I'm sure he's got money invested into more than Flex-N-Gate. As far as Flex-N-Gate goes, I also don't know what the context of each location is and what the development of each location included. In other words, I don't think we can claim that he does or does not have any successful projects without really getting into his background.

Mark Lamping was directly involved with the mixed use projects at the Meadowlands (mixed bag) as well as the new retail/entertainment complex that opened this year in St. Louis adjacent to Busch Stadium and affiliated with the Cardinals

[thelakelander]

I don't know. I'm sure he's got money invested into more than Flex-N-Gate. As far as Flex-N-Gate goes, I also don't know what the context of each location is and what the development of each location included. In other words, I don't think we can claim that he does or does not have any successful projects without really getting into his background.

It doesn't appear that the question has been asked locally, in any case.

Based on tufsu1's post, here's Ballpark Village in downtown St. Louis:

Ballpark Village will be the first master planned and fully integrated sports anchored development in the United States.  To be built in multiple phases, Ballpark Village will have Entertainment, Retail, Restaurants, Residential, Parking, and Hotel elements.  Once completed, Ballpark Village will be well over $750 Million in total development.

http://www.stlballparkvillage.com/

[thelakelander]

American Dream Meadowlands:

[thelakelander]

There's no mixed-use commercial/residential development included in the latest Khan proposal....just sporting and event oriented. However, it now does appear that his team does have some mixed-use development experience. Nevertheless, it's a discussion for another thread. We should keep this one focused on the Trio.

[river4340]

Having a partner with some money and experience can only be good for the project. Maybe it will actually happen. Of course, it does seem to depend on the city kicking in a lot of money.

[sschwartz2929]

The City will benefit from $152 million in total economic impact from the development, with a projected $17.5 million in operations each year and a $7 million increase in new regional payroll. In total, the project will generate 448 jobs during construction and 247 permanent mid-to-high wage jobs during operations.

[thelakelander]

so its fair to say that atkins has as much experience as khan does, if not more.

Without proper research, probably not. Luckily, it should not matter in getting the Trio off the ground.

[thelakelander]

The City will benefit from $152 million in total economic impact from the development, with a projected $17.5 million in operations each year and a $7 million increase in new regional payroll. In total, the project will generate 448 jobs during construction and 247 permanent mid-to-high wage jobs during operations.

The city will simply benefit from having a dead, high profile spot in the heart of the Northbank activated once again. Hopefully, everything works out this time.

[whyisjohngalt]

so its fair to say that atkins has as much experience as khan does, if not more.

This is more absurd than fair.

[CCMjax]

I know Danis was the original GC on the job and KBJ the architect.  Has this changed and are they simply picking up where they left off if this goes forward?  When Danis was finishing up the Jesse Dupont Center down the street they were about a month or two from hopping their crews over to the Trio or Barnett.  They were just waiting for the green light, it's a shame it didn't come together then.