90 Million more to be spent on Everbank Stadium?

Started by Cheshire Cat, November 05, 2015, 12:54:37 PM

MEGATRON

Quote from: MusicMan on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM


The Shipyards is DEAD. It is not going to happen as long as Lenny Curry is Mayor. He will never authorize he clean up, which is the Cities responsibility, so no one will be able to move forward on it.
Since when did the environmental cleanup of the Shipyards become a responsibility of the City?
PEACE THROUGH TYRANNY

acme54321

Quote from: MEGATRON on November 05, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM


The Shipyards is DEAD. It is not going to happen as long as Lenny Curry is Mayor. He will never authorize he clean up, which is the Cities responsibility, so no one will be able to move forward on it.
Since when did the environmental cleanup of the Shipyards become a responsibility of the City?

Well the city owns it and it's basically unusable or sellable until it's cleaned up.

MEGATRON

Quote from: acme54321 on November 05, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: MEGATRON on November 05, 2015, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on November 05, 2015, 02:18:01 PM


The Shipyards is DEAD. It is not going to happen as long as Lenny Curry is Mayor. He will never authorize he clean up, which is the Cities responsibility, so no one will be able to move forward on it.
Since when did the environmental cleanup of the Shipyards become a responsibility of the City?

Well the city owns it and it's basically unusable or sellable until it's cleaned up.
The City owns it only because the City foreclosed on the property.  In that scenario, the City is not responsible for cleanup provided the City is trying to sell the property.  A buyer will be responsible for the cleanup but that just gets factored into the purchase price.
PEACE THROUGH TYRANNY

finehoe

Quote from: Tacachale on November 05, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
What is the more likely conclusion: (a) that the practice field/amphitheater project has shifted during the negotiations between Khan and the city, or (b) that Khan, after successfully negotiating the practice field/amphitheater deal with the city, would then continue to push for another practice field/amphitheater project that would make his own just-approved facilities redundant, and that the city has already said it doesn't like?

Or (c) promise an "amenity" that looks pretty in the renderings as a ploy to get taxpayer funding whenever you present a proposal, no matter if it makes sense or how many times you've used it before.

CG7

Captain Zissou, according to a story on News4jax, The Laura Street Trio could be started as soon as December. Oh, and as far as this story goes, I'm one of the gullible idiots that thinks this is a win win situation. Replace the club section seating, add a flex space practice facility (one that looks cool too) and get a new usable (away from the complainers across the river) ampitheatre, and only pay half....good deal in my book.

CG7

Whoops, i meant to add the story.

Drones took to the sky Thursday to help perform inspections on the historic Barnett and Laura Street Trio buildings downtown.
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The data collected will help contractors with renovations and construction as new looks and uses for the sites are moving forward after years of talks about changes.

To keep their workers safe, Danis, a design and construction company, is using a drone for the building inspections.

VIDEO:  Drone helps with inspections

"It gives a more efficient way, a safer way to perform inspections and gather information, which is a great asset to construction firms," Danis drone pilot Robert Mauro said.

The Southeast Group and Steve Atkins are making a huge investment, bringing the Barnett and the Laura Street Trio buildings back to life. They were constructed in the early 1900s, so much work will have to be put into their restoration.

"What I'm looking at is a large crack coming down the building," Mauro said. "The brick is falling away and deteriorating at a point, so this gives us a good idea of the extent of the damage."

For about three days Danis has been flying a drone around the Barnett and Bisbee buildings, and the company has uncovered some historical architectural features.

The drone was able to fly up all 18 floors of the Barnett Bank building, capturing what used to be the home of several business headquarters. The footage also shows the unique architecture outside the Laura Street Trio, which includes the Florida Life Building, the Bisbee Building and the Old Florida National Bank.

"There will be apartments. Ten or 11 floors are the current plan, finalized over the next few months. Commercial retail space and retail banking center occupying the first floor," Danis Vice President Tony Suttles said. "On the trio side will be Courtyard by Marriott, along with a couple restaurant spaces and a retail banking center."

The data collected by the drones will not only be used to spot damage but also to document history. The images will be sent to the Jacksonville Historic Preservation Society.

"Seeing how a lot of those details were accomplished and constructed because we have to recreate that, a lot of the terracotta details," Suttles said.

Danis is one of only a handful of construction companies with a commercial drone-use license from the Federal Aviation Administration. Suttles said the improving economy has helped move these projects along and residents can expect to see more revitalization downtown.

"I think there is momentum building downtown and these are going to be a huge catalyst to continue moving forward for other projects downtown," Suttles said.

Construction could begin as early December.

vicupstate

"Yes the city owns Everbank Field. And yes the city would own the practice facility and amphitheater too."

Yes, the city owns it but is unable to derive revenue from it.  It's kind of like having to pay for upkeep and insurance on a house, but not being able to live in it or rent it out. All the pain, none of the gain.   
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edjax

Quote from: vicupstate on November 05, 2015, 03:26:59 PM
"Yes the city owns Everbank Field. And yes the city would own the practice facility and amphitheater too."

Yes, the city owns it but is unable to derive revenue from it.  It's kind of like having to pay for upkeep and insurance on a house, but not being able to live in it or rent it out. All the pain, none of the gain.   

So the city is NOT allowed to derive any revenue from the stadium. Hmmm. Good to know.

Steve

Quote from: CG7 on November 05, 2015, 03:20:14 PM
Captain Zissou, according to a story on News4jax, The Laura Street Trio could be started as soon as December. Oh, and as far as this story goes, I'm one of the gullible idiots that thinks this is a win win situation. Replace the club section seating, add a flex space practice facility (one that looks cool too) and get a new usable (away from the complainers across the river) ampitheatre, and only pay half....good deal in my book.

I mean, that would be great but I'm not going to hold my breath.

MusicMan

The Jaguars use the stadium for free? They do not pay a lease fee or "rent" to the COJ?

RattlerGator

Some of the regulars on this board . . . I mean, damn. Like CG7, it's hard to see this as something other than a win-win. And, it solves the Metropolitan Park problem.

Believe it or not, this project seriously helps the urban core -- it's going to bring some real life to downtown on a much more regular basis. The practice facility is going to have utility far beyond a practice space for the Jags.

Take a step back; give the bitching and moaning a break.

edjax

Quote from: MusicMan on November 05, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
The Jaguars use the stadium for free? They do not pay a lease fee or "rent" to the COJ?

Of course they do.  Last I recall it was in excess of $1 million per year. 

Adam White

Quote from: RattlerGator on November 05, 2015, 04:19:42 PM
Some of the regulars on this board . . . I mean, damn. Like CG7, it's hard to see this as something other than a win-win. And, it solves the Metropolitan Park problem.

Believe it or not, this project seriously helps the urban core -- it's going to bring some real life to downtown on a much more regular basis. The practice facility is going to have utility far beyond a practice space for the Jags.

Take a step back; give the bitching and moaning a break.

Then why don't you and your Jaguar-loving buddies pay for the fucking thing and not saddle everyone else with the bill.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

edjax

Quote from: Adam White on November 05, 2015, 04:39:01 PM
Quote from: RattlerGator on November 05, 2015, 04:19:42 PM
Some of the regulars on this board . . . I mean, damn. Like CG7, it's hard to see this as something other than a win-win. And, it solves the Metropolitan Park problem.

Believe it or not, this project seriously helps the urban core -- it's going to bring some real life to downtown on a much more regular basis. The practice facility is going to have utility far beyond a practice space for the Jags.

Take a step back; give the bitching and moaning a break.

Then why don't you and your Jaguar-loving buddies pay for the fucking thing and not saddle everyone else with the bill.

Wow. Fucking tough talk there.  Damn

UNFurbanist

Any new construction in the core is a good thing! I'm not downing the project but I am downing the fact that COJ can throw $45M easy at an already successful billion dollar entity but struggles to fix basic stuff in DT or give the DIA more cash to work with on the plethora of small projects it is working on. I just think it could be used more strategically I'm not whining and I don't make the final call just giving an opinion. If it happens, great. If not, I know a ton of other places that money could go.