Presentation for: New Southbank Riverwalk

Started by Metro Jacksonville, August 01, 2013, 09:31:00 AM

edjax

#90
But the benches where the width is an issue is where the shade sails are located and per the email to remove the benches would then have the arms for shades cause pedestrian safety. Personally I would opt for,not allowing bikes.  Not unheard of for something like this.

Charles Hunter

Lake, but what about the head-clearance issue that Mr. Flagg mentions, without the circular benches?  Would you take out the shade sails, too?

thelakelander

It's not my project, but my recommendation (based on what I know at this point) would be to take them both out in areas where they cause greater potential conflict between pedestrians and bicyclist. I'd look to relocate them to areas of the riverwalk where there's extra width to accommodate the circular seating and sails.
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thelakelander

#93
Quote from: edjax on February 14, 2015, 09:57:37 PM
But the benches where the width is an issue is where the shade sails are located and per the email to remove the benches would then have the arms for shades cause pedestrian safety. Personally I would opt for,not allowing bikes.  Not unheard of for something like this.

Being a guy who always recommends "best practices" options as opposed to favoring one mode of mobility over another or designing to existing minimum standards, I'd say this would not be the best way to plan and design for a future vibrant city. However, given the current design and the appearance of favoring the pedestrian over the cyclist for this particular project, this is also another option to consider.
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peestandingup

Quote from: thelakelander on February 15, 2015, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: edjax on February 14, 2015, 09:57:37 PM
But the benches where the width is an issue is where the shade sails are located and per the email to remove the benches would then have the arms for shades cause pedestrian safety. Personally I would opt for,not allowing bikes.  Not unheard of for something like this.

Being a guy who always recommends "best practices" options as opposed to favoring one mode of mobility over another or designing to existing minimum standards, I'd say this would not be the best way to plan and design for a future vibrant city. However, given the current design and the appearance of favoring the pedestrian over the cyclist for this particular project, this is also another option to consider.

I'd vote for traffic signals on the southbank before an all out banning of bikes on it. Jax is already sorely behind compared to similar sized (and even smaller) cities in FL & a lot of the country when it comes to our cycling infrastructure/safety. Taking away a big chunk of arguably one of the safest, most used & full featured paths for them would be an absolute last resort IMO. Plus, it would set a bad precedent.

Noone

Just got back from the Southbank Riverwalk and the brand NEW bicycle rack is in the grass next to the Charthouse. Went to the DCPS building and all I can say is Dr. Vitti tear down that fence to the St. Johns River our American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative in our new Super Duper restricted CRA/DIA  4.8 mile rivers edge zone.

Tony Lopez the new Parks guy you may want to get over to Bee and Utah and identify that Waterfront Public Access Street end? Tera Meeks too.

copperfiend

How about Mr Vitti, sell that property and move the school board off the river.

Noone

^That will eventually happen. I'd give the new guy Dr. Vitti an A if he told the region that this space next to the restricted Southbank Riverwalk is a hand launch SUP (Ashley Smith Juarez) or a Wind Surfing (Scott Shine), or a Tom Ingram (kayak launch)  in this new according to a CRA consultant 4.8 miles river edge zone from the Fuller Warren Bridge to the Mathews Bridge.

Does anyone who was there remember the standing ovation that Dr. Vitti received at the Vision 2025 ceremony when he arrived late because he went over the wrong bridge. Where is the St. Johns Riverkeeper on this?

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Noone

Quote from: Noone on August 02, 2013, 01:12:51 AM
Quote from: coredumped on August 01, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
It looks real good. One question though - is that dock going to be a public dock?

That is a great question! So what is the answer? The picture of the floating dock in 32 is one huge dock. Where was that taken.
Let's all remember that the RAM dock is only open when RAM is open and is shut out for any and all Public and economic opportunity for everyone else in our new highly restricted DIA zone. That is a fact.

Will this dock come before the Jacksonville Waterways Commission? Councilman Gulliford will you send it to Councilman Redman the new chair of Waterways? Coredumped nails it!

The Public Trust has been completely and totally destroyed when it comes to economic opportunity to our Waterways Downtown.

At a recent Downtown Experience subcommittee meeting of the DIA and sitting next to Scott Wilson (back me up on this Scott) I asked if anyone wanted to pull up to the floating dock that is right now there at the 40 plus acre SHIPYARDS property and get out and use it the answer from Tony Allegretti and Paul Crawford was a HUGE NO! NO! NO!

So be concerned if you think that this new dock is for everyone. pick and choose the winners and losers.

2013-384 - Hogans Creek will an amendment be attached for 24/7 access? Active legislation.
2013-373- Regulatory Compliance Coordinator.  What is that? For who? Active legislation.

And my favorite. The Jim Love, Kevin Kuzel, 26' Berkman Floating dock compromise misrepresented by OGC to the Jacksonville Waterways Commission during the 2013 FIND grant application process.

So what was the length of the old dock? What is the length of the new dock?

Downtown Experience subcommittee meeting of the DIA today at 4pm. 1st floor city hall.

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Are we still number 1?

Spoke with Scott Wilson on 2/18/15 and he was going to check on the width of the 270' of Southbank Riverwalk dock space. How ironic it would be that the width of the floating dock could be wider than the Riverwalk and all that dock space that a portion of it has been given to one vendor with a 10 year no compete clause.

Are we still number 1?


Noone

JEA- Building Community? Yeah Right
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DIA- Downtown Is Adrift
Should there be an ADA HANDICAPPED Parking and watercraft hand launch spot at the end of the Southbank Riverwalk for the wheelchair gang?

camarocane

Why pull up an 8 month old thread to ramble?? What does JEA have to do with the Riverwalk? Just curious.

Noone

^Because the ADA HANDICAPPED parking spot is IMPORTANT for the COMMUNITY.

camarocane

Hmm didn't know JEA was responsible for parking for the Riverwalk.... Learn something new everyDAY

Noone


acme54321

Quote from: camarocane on October 05, 2015, 08:43:59 AM
Why pull up an 8 month old thread to ramble?? What does JEA have to do with the Riverwalk? Just curious.

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