Laura Street Trio in Trouble? Updated status of six key Downtown projects

Started by thelakelander, December 10, 2014, 12:50:35 PM



heights unknown

Quote from: KenFSU on July 08, 2015, 11:02:57 PM
Quote from: tpot on July 08, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
http://miami.curbed.com/archives/2015/07/07/beaux-arts-bank-turned-hotel-the-langord-to-open-in-sept.php

Just in case you want to see what a restored historic bank looks like......The Langford, downtown Miami opening this September 2015.........

If you want to really be depressed, looks at Miami's development pipeline and compare it to Jacksonville's:

http://miamidda.com/map/index.html
Very depressing; that should have been Jacksonville; at least half of what Miami has. Can't believe the difference. Jax used to be the city that set the standard for all of florida and its cities; now we're 3rd or 4th though because of consolidation, we are the largest city in population.
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heights unknown

I would trade consolidation in a heartbeat if I knew we would annex the surrounding areas around the old city boundaries and more business, developments, etc. suddenly moved into downtown and the urban core and the city as a whole.
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Bativac

At this point, anything with the words "Laura Street Trio" attached to it goes into the "meaningless press release" pile. I wish they would just not even mention it anymore until someone has actually started construction.

Sentient

Quote from: Bativac on September 23, 2015, 11:04:35 AM
At this point, anything with the words "Laura Street Trio" attached to it goes into the "meaningless press release" pile. I wish they would just not even mention it anymore until someone has actually started construction.

That pile is overflowing with Shipyards items... you need to start another one.

CCMjax

Quote from: Sentient on September 23, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: Bativac on September 23, 2015, 11:04:35 AM
At this point, anything with the words "Laura Street Trio" attached to it goes into the "meaningless press release" pile. I wish they would just not even mention it anymore until someone has actually started construction.

That pile is overflowing with Shipyards items... you need to start another one.

You could throw it in the East San Marco pile.
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heights unknown

Was thinking of moving back to Jax; but what for? Crickets chirping at night? A dead downtown and/or city as a whole that shuts down after 5? No entertainment, venues, or attractions that would keep me awake 24/7? I think I'll stay down here in the Sarasota area until I figure out where I want to go until I am lowered 6 feet under or burned to ashes in an incinerator. Until then, I still love my Jacksonville.
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coredumped

Quote from: heights unknown on September 25, 2015, 01:28:28 PM
Was thinking of moving back to Jax; but what for? Crickets chirping at night? A dead downtown and/or city as a whole that shuts down after 5? No entertainment, venues, or attractions that would keep me awake 24/7? I think I'll stay down here in the Sarasota area until I figure out where I want to go until I am lowered 6 feet under or burned to ashes in an incinerator. Until then, I still love my Jacksonville.

Wait, you're making fun of Jacksonville and being sleepy, but you live in Sarasota? Sarasota is where retirees go to die!
I understand your frustration with Jax, it has a lot of potential, but it also has a lot going for it. What is it you're looking for that you CAN'T find in Jax?
If you're looking for entertainment and venues, there's many cool bars downtown. The elbow has a great selection of things to do all within 5 blocks of each other:


Not to mention the rest of downtown, riverside/king street etc. Oh and the beaches, great fishing, town center, Cummer, MOCA, Florida Theatre, Cork district, Fort Caroline and the many other great parks, and this HUGE LIST of events in Jacksonville:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attractions_and_events_in_Jacksonville,_Florida
And let's not go in to the many awesome sports teams we have....

But please, enjoy Sarasota.

As someone once said "If you're bored in Jacksonville, it's your own fault!"
Jags season ticket holder.

heights unknown

Quote from: coredumped on September 25, 2015, 04:48:12 PM
Quote from: heights unknown on September 25, 2015, 01:28:28 PM
Was thinking of moving back to Jax; but what for? Crickets chirping at night? A dead downtown and/or city as a whole that shuts down after 5? No entertainment, venues, or attractions that would keep me awake 24/7? I think I'll stay down here in the Sarasota area until I figure out where I want to go until I am lowered 6 feet under or burned to ashes in an incinerator. Until then, I still love my Jacksonville.

Wait, you're making fun of Jacksonville and being sleepy, but you live in Sarasota? Sarasota is where retirees go to die!
I understand your frustration with Jax, it has a lot of potential, but it also has a lot going for it. What is it you're looking for that you CAN'T find in Jax?
If you're looking for entertainment and venues, there's many cool bars downtown. The elbow has a great selection of things to do all within 5 blocks of each other:


Not to mention the rest of downtown, riverside/king street etc. Oh and the beaches, great fishing, town center, Cummer, MOCA, Florida Theatre, Cork district, Fort Caroline and the many other great parks, and this HUGE LIST of events in Jacksonville:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attractions_and_events_in_Jacksonville,_Florida
And let's not go in to the many awesome sports teams we have....

But please, enjoy Sarasota.

As someone once said "If you're bored in Jacksonville, it's your own fault!"
"CORE DUMP," (change that name), I..LOVE...JAX. And I am still thinking of moving back; but when I see the leaders and senior officials dropping the ball all the time, it really turns me off. I WAS NOT MAKING FUN OF JAX...again, I LOVE JAX...AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT. I am still leaning towards moving back after everything is ironed out here, but again, I have to be moving to something that's going to keep me awake; Jax is in much better shape than when I left back in '95 that's for sure. Believe it or not, for a city of 60k, Sarasota has got it going on downtown, lively downtown day and night, dense, lively, cultural, etc.; and you're right, seniorville it is (and I am nearing that mark), but I LOVE MY JAX, and I root for Jax 24/7 in everyway...I was born in Jacksonville and lived in LaVilla in the 60's, and spent over 60 percent of my life in Jax as an adult while in the Navy. No, not making fun of Jax, but it just pisses me off that the leaders and officials just can't seem to get things going or manage the city and help it to prosper and be a success, and a serious competitor, with our peer major florida cities.
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CCMjax

Quote from: heights unknown on September 25, 2015, 07:07:39 PM
Quote from: coredumped on September 25, 2015, 04:48:12 PM
Quote from: heights unknown on September 25, 2015, 01:28:28 PM
Was thinking of moving back to Jax; but what for? Crickets chirping at night? A dead downtown and/or city as a whole that shuts down after 5? No entertainment, venues, or attractions that would keep me awake 24/7? I think I'll stay down here in the Sarasota area until I figure out where I want to go until I am lowered 6 feet under or burned to ashes in an incinerator. Until then, I still love my Jacksonville.

Wait, you're making fun of Jacksonville and being sleepy, but you live in Sarasota? Sarasota is where retirees go to die!
I understand your frustration with Jax, it has a lot of potential, but it also has a lot going for it. What is it you're looking for that you CAN'T find in Jax?
If you're looking for entertainment and venues, there's many cool bars downtown. The elbow has a great selection of things to do all within 5 blocks of each other:


Not to mention the rest of downtown, riverside/king street etc. Oh and the beaches, great fishing, town center, Cummer, MOCA, Florida Theatre, Cork district, Fort Caroline and the many other great parks, and this HUGE LIST of events in Jacksonville:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attractions_and_events_in_Jacksonville,_Florida
And let's not go in to the many awesome sports teams we have....

But please, enjoy Sarasota.

As someone once said "If you're bored in Jacksonville, it's your own fault!"
"CORE DUMP," (change that name), I..LOVE...JAX. And I am still thinking of moving back; but when I see the leaders and senior officials dropping the ball all the time, it really turns me off. I WAS NOT MAKING FUN OF JAX...again, I LOVE JAX...AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT. I am still leaning towards moving back after everything is ironed out here, but again, I have to be moving to something that's going to keep me awake; Jax is in much better shape than when I left back in '95 that's for sure. Believe it or not, for a city of 60k, Sarasota has got it going on downtown, lively downtown day and night, dense, lively, cultural, etc.; and you're right, seniorville it is (and I am nearing that mark), but I LOVE MY JAX, and I root for Jax 24/7 in everyway...I was born in Jacksonville and lived in LaVilla in the 60's, and spent over 60 percent of my life in Jax as an adult while in the Navy. No, not making fun of Jax, but it just pisses me off that the leaders and officials just can't seem to get things going or manage the city and help it to prosper and be a success, and a serious competitor, with our peer major florida cities.

Well, the best thing you can do for Jax, is move back here and contribute to the core area's economy.   
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UNFurbanist

Looks like some potential new life for the Trio and Barnett!

QuoteJust over a year ago, developer Steve Atkins said he was ready.
He said he had commitments for $70 million to revitalize the historic Laura Street Trio and Barnett Bank building. He just needed $7.7 million from the city to get started.

No work ever began.

Now, Atkins said he's again ready move forward.

He sent Downtown Investment Authority CEO Aundra Wallace a letter last week with term sheets for the private financing, which includes the purchase of Federal Historic Tax Credits.

Atkins' SouthEast Group is partnering with the Las Vegas-based Molasky Group of Cos. for what Atkins said is close to a $78 million project.

But, Atkins said, he needs $8 million from the city.

That public money, plus more than $9 million in tax credits leaves the project needing $60 million. Of that, private equity would be $20 million from SouthEast and Molasky, with the remaining $40 million coming through a loan from a financial institution, Atkins said.

Attachments to the Wallace letter included a summary of terms and conditions for proposed financing from US Bank N.A. for the Barnett Bank building and the historic tax credits.

The bank describes it not as a commitment, but instead a description under which it would consider providing financing. Atkins said the companies have gone through the underwriting process and says it shows the private side of the deal is in place.

Kirk Wendland, the city's Office of Economic Development director, didn't specifically address the terms for the Laura Street/Barnett deal, but said such letters don't represent commitments. However, they do help the city and private side continue talks about partnering on deals.

Atkins said Molasky is a "great financial partner" that's done high-profile projects and brings significant cash equity. He said he started talking with them several months ago and "hit it off immediately."

The company has more than 65 years in real estate development in government, retail, residential and commercial projects. Examples of its commercial work include two Bank of America plazas and Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas, along with a Blue Cross Blue Shield of Georgia facility.

Atkins declined to go into specific of the business relationship with the company. Requests for interviews with Molasky officials last week were not granted.

A breakdown of the Barnett Bank deal calls for a project of more than $32 million — $16.6 coming from loaned funds and $16 million through private equity. For the latter, $4 million is pegged as coming from a city grant and $5.1 million through tax credits.

As for the Laura Street Trio, it's laid out as a $44.6 million project with $22.3 million coming from both a loan and private equity. The equity includes $4 million of city money and $4.4 million in tax credits.

Plans and tenants previously announced for both buildings remain, Atkins said.

The Barnett Bank building would have a financial institution on the first two floors along with a coffee shop. Above that would be some commercial space and 110 market-rate residential units ranging from 600 to 800 square feet.

Atkins said the Marriott and "The Bullbriar" restaurant headed by Scott Schwartz, chef and owner of the 29 South Restaurant, would be in the Laura Street Trio. Additionally, a bodega-style market called Cucina Urban would be included.

Atkins said he met with Mayor Lenny Curry's administration in mid-September to talk about the project and what was needed. He declined to say who, but said he came away encouraged by the administration's enthusiasm.

Atkins said he hasn't made an official request to the city for the $8 million yet, but said the "ball is in the city's court" on the project.

Atkins' letter to Wallace indicated he wanted the project to be presented to the DIA for review and approval "at the earliest possible opportunity."

However, Wallace said it won't be on the authority's Nov. 18 agenda.

Wallace was in Oklahoma City last week as part of the JAX Chamber trip and said he forwarded the information to staff.

"I really have got to look at it myself and review what my team tells me," he said.

Wallace said he'd look at who was guaranteeing the debt, who was in control of the project and which groups were putting up equity when it came to any ask about public money.

Through this all, though, remains a legal issue.

Atkins' group purchased the Downtown buildings in 2013 with more than $3 million in assistance from Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan through his Stache Investments. After more than a year with no work on the project, Stache Investments began foreclosure proceedings.

Stache Investments says it hasn't been paid anything on its loan. Barnett Towers LLC, Atkins' entity created that owns the building, claims it wasn't a typical loan and it wasn't supposed to be paid back.

The disagreement continues and, unless it's settled out of court, won't be decided until spring.

Atkins' letter to Wallace says $3.1 million has been set aside in a private trust at Rogers Towers to satisfy the mortgage held by Stache Investments. The release of those funds would be made immediately upon the city approving the public investments for the project.

Atkins' wouldn't comment on the litigation or why paying the mortgage was tied to city approving incentives.

Khan spokesman Jim Woodcock in a statement last week said he had no comment and that it was a matter before the courts.

Atkins said to expect announcements this week about the financing and other details about the project.

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=546467

Tacachale

I'll hand it to Atkins, he's very good at keeping this project in the news after years of no movement.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

jaxjags

What am I missing here? The DT area could do with a boutique semi-full service Courtyard hotel to complement the full service hotels. I see these type of DT hotels being built/remodeled in other cities. Marriott does not approve "branding" of these type projects  without thinking it will be a success. The restaurant will compliment the hotel and provide another DT option. Why is this so hard to move forward? Those with better DT insight please inform me.

UNFurbanist

I also believe its a no-brainer it just takes time to convince private firms that it's worth the huge investment. My guess is that with recent trends in Hemming Park, Laura St. being named one of the best streets in America by APA and just the overall positive trends DT or Jax generally private enterprise is finally starting to see the money.