The Jacksonville Jaguars

[Downtown Osprey]

Long is an AP reporter, not really a "local" guy like Dan Hicken or Sam Kouvaris or Chad Cushman....Dempsey on 1010xl discussed the issue, but it is really suprising that fewer are not discussing the issue. Not even the Jags are discussing it. Caldwell would rather discuss other issues, rightly so....

http://trove.com/a/Justin-Blackmon-reportedly-denied-reinstatement-to-NFL.AxhkI?utm_campaign=hosted&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=sns

He may work for the AP but he is based in Jacksonville and is probably at the stadium more than any of the guys you mentioned.

Mark basically threw him under the bus with this crap. So he can just say whatever he feels like on the radio but then claim nothing is true unless he writes it? Can't have it both ways. He's a joke.

[Elwood]

Glad 1010XL put the story out there, even if only to distance themselves from Mark Long  They can't continue to use Mark Long as a "source" after this fiasco. AP should cut ties with him as well.  Far too many hard working sports journalists, doing actual reporting, to tolerate this from a guy too lazy to do his job. Instead he just "creates" a story (lied). It demonstrates all that's wrong with the big names in sports reporting; the belief that they, not the sport/athletes, are the story.

[ProjectMaximus]

I agree that Peter King's article was fair. But I disagree with you both on this point...advantage or not what was the point of cheating? Just cause he's crappy at it doesn't mean it's alright. And what was the point of not cooperating with the investigation? Just by doing that Brady knew he had opened himself up to some form of punishment...perhaps he knew that taking that punishment was better than what they might find had they searched his phone?

It may just be me but the point of not cooperating was . . . this:

It wasn't cheating at all.

If there was a disparity between home and away games, that would be an unfair competitive advantage and tantamount to cheating. Without that disparity, however, it may technically constitute a rule violation but it absolutely is not cheating. I don't understand why that is so hard to comprehend.

I can't comprehend it cause I've honestly never known that to be the case. If we live in different worlds then we'll have to agree to disagree. But in my world it is cheating when you intentionally break the rules, regardless of the outcome. When you commit a foul in any sport, it's still a foul even if you didn't benefit. Heck, in hockey, soccer, and rugby, to name a few sports, they'll force the offending team to play on at a DISADVANTAGE and wait til the stoppage to assess the infraction. I'm pretty sure you can get arrested for attempted robbery even if you didnt make out with any valuables.

Furthermore, I do believe Brady had an unfair advantage, he just didnt capitalize on it very well. Why else would you state that you want your quarterback to be subjectively comfortable? Because it's better!! And if that happens by breaking a rule then it is indeed cheating. I think clearly your issue is with the rules, in which case we will have found our common ground.

[mtraininjax]

Glad 1010XL put the story out there, even if only to distance themselves from Mark Long  They can't continue to use Mark Long as a "source" after this fiasco. AP should cut ties with him as well.  Far too many hard working sports journalists, doing actual reporting, to tolerate this from a guy too lazy to do his job. Instead he just "creates" a story (lied). It demonstrates all that's wrong with the big names in sports reporting; the belief that they, not the sport/athletes, are the story.

+1

[RattlerGator]

If there was a disparity between home and away games, that would be an unfair competitive advantage and tantamount to cheating.

Maybe I am missing something, but you do know that they provide their own balls whether home or away, yes?  There wouldn't be a difference between home and away. 

The big info to me is how the Patriots basically stopped fumbling in 2007 when they were allowed to provide their own balls.  Very curious, indeed.
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-mysteriously-became-fumble-proof-in-2007

Um . . . yes, you're missing the fact that the road team hands those balls over for the League to inspect, and then the *HOME* teams work with the officials to process balls in and out of the games. No road team control after inspection -- okay?

[RattlerGator]

I can't comprehend it cause I've honestly never known that to be the case. If we live in different worlds then we'll have to agree to disagree. But in my world it is cheating when you intentionally break the rules, regardless of the outcome. When you commit a foul in any sport, it's still a foul even if you didn't benefit. Heck, in hockey, soccer, and rugby, to name a few sports, they'll force the offending team to play on at a DISADVANTAGE and wait til the stoppage to assess the infraction. I'm pretty sure you can get arrested for attempted robbery even if you didnt make out with any valuables.

Furthermore, I do believe Brady had an unfair advantage, he just didnt capitalize on it very well. Why else would you state that you want your quarterback to be subjectively comfortable? Because it's better!! And if that happens by breaking a rule then it is indeed cheating. I think clearly your issue is with the rules, in which case we will have found our common ground.

I'd respectfully say that's a seemingly nice position to hold that doesn't withstand scrutiny. If Brady didn't "capitalize" on it, he didn't affect the integrity of the game. He got no advantage. And, no -- I simply don't believe you think that "cheating" equals breaking the rules and that breaking the rules necessarily equals cheating. I agree with the former, not the latter.

Cheating involves getting a competitive advantage. Subjective before-game comfort is not cheating.

Peter King showed you the objective proof; you can't just wiggle and say, well -- in that case -- he was still "cheating" he just didn't capitalize on his cheating.

It's a dumb-ass rule; most people admit this. Which means it's really a non-issue in my book.

The Patriots are being punished for SpyGate (which clearly *was* cheating!) and for their lack of cooperation in this investigation. I have no great love for the Patriots but I'm honest enough to admit when you get ambushed like this before the Super Bowl, everyone is going to close ranks and deny ANYTHING. That's reasonable, to me. After the Super Bowl, I would have gone about things differently but if you don't see that some folks tried to set-up the Patriots with this complaint and investigation, you're just not paying attention in my book.

And I don't like set-ups like this, especially when they clearly come from a place of envy in a League where EVERYONE is trying to get a competitive advantage in one way or another. That's just me, YourMileageMayVary.

[ProjectMaximus]

And, no -- I simply don't believe you think that "cheating" equals breaking the rules and that breaking the rules necessarily equals cheating. I agree with the former, not the latter.

If you really want to know what I think, it's that intentionally breaking the rules necessarily equals cheating.

Cheating involves getting a competitive advantage. Subjective before-game comfort is not cheating.

We'll have to agree to disagree then.

[I-10east]

The Jags are the least cheating team in the NFL (a 12 score). The Broncos are the biggest cheaters (with a 49 score). BTW the Pats aren't that bad like one would think, with only a 25 score.

http://yourteamcheats.com/

[Downtown Osprey]

LOL, this site.

[RattlerGator]

LOL, this site.

All in good fun.

[I-10east]

Sen'Derrick Marks on the NFL Network. He's named the 76th (out of 100) top player of 2015.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000493746/Top-100-Players-of-2015-No-76-Sen-Derrick-Marks

[pierre]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12913780/uni-watch-power-rankings-nfl-best-worst-uniforms

Jags named worst uniform in the NFL. Worst helmet in history.

[KenFSU]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12913780/uni-watch-power-rankings-nfl-best-worst-uniforms

Jags named worst uniform in the NFL. Worst helmet in history.

Worth noting that the (obviously subjective) article praises the actual uniforms and color scheme.

The last-place ranking was given entirely based on the helmet.

[pierre]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12913780/uni-watch-power-rankings-nfl-best-worst-uniforms

Jags named worst uniform in the NFL. Worst helmet in history.

Worth noting that the (obviously subjective) article praises the actual uniforms and color scheme.

The last-place ranking was given entirely based on the helmet.

Yes, and I think most agree with that. The jersey looks good but the helmet is just atrocious.

I don't understand how Shad Khan and the team could approve such a horrid design.

If the helmet was all black, I think it would look pretty cool.

[KenFSU]

^ Yeah, I'm with you.

It's nice to take risks from time to time, but I would love to see a more traditional helmet.