The Pearl DARTed by COJ / JSO

[apvbguy]

So the fact that they nearly had to trip over hookers and drug dealers on their way to get some under age drinking busts and electric cords...is ok, though?

is that what I said?  trying to justify the rants by saying they're ignoring other things isn't going to fly

[jason_contentdg]

So the fact that they nearly had to trip over hookers and drug dealers on their way to get some under age drinking busts and electric cords...is ok, though?

is that what I said?  trying to justify the rants by saying they're ignoring other things isn't going to fly

They went into a neighborhood that constantly has trouble getting JSO to not ignore hookers, thugs, and drug dealers to bust some underage drinkers and christmas lights.

This is what I have a problem with.  Priorities seems a little f'd up at this point.

[apvbguy]

Is there really a need to shut a place down based on these bogus/minor voliations? It seems with all the letigatation they have to go through it really does keep a business down for WAY too long. It's more than taking away a fun place to go and get drunk, it affects peoples livelyhoods.


One guy's got the right idea, contact those in the DART program and ask them politely wtf is their problem! There's also gotta be other people to contact to let them know it's really a dick move on the city/jso's part.

I don't know what you guys are thinking, sure thing that many of the violations are piddly in nature but nonetheless they are violations, should they be ignored? are you guys really in favor of lawlessness? or maybe a tragedy in a nightclub that has things like electric cords ( FYI a good majority of fires start from faulty wiring) to wake you guys up. If there is underage drinking should that be ignored? come on guys, think before ranting

Violations? Sure, a fine, whatever. but what is the point of the DART program to shut down venues for months at a time? Why condemn a building for total bullshit reasons? C'mon where's the common sense at. This is totally worthy of a rant.

Is sure sounds like a cluster ****, What should have happened is that the place should never been allowed to open in the first place. Isn't there a need for a certificate of occupancy in JAX, if there was an inspection made before this place opened the violations would have been caught and corrected before they opened.
this is lunacy of the whole issue, it looks as if someone was asleep at the switch.
Nonetheless the violations are valid and have to be addressed before allowing a place like this to continue to operate.

[apvbguy]

So the fact that they nearly had to trip over hookers and drug dealers on their way to get some under age drinking busts and electric cords...is ok, though?

is that what I said?  trying to justify the rants by saying they're ignoring other things isn't going to fly

They went into a neighborhood that constantly has trouble getting JSO to not ignore hookers, thugs, and drug dealers to bust some underage drinkers and christmas lights.

This is what I have a problem with.  Priorities seems a little f'd up at this point.

you could be right but the violations shouldn't be ignored, see my other reply

[jason_contentdg]

So the fact that they nearly had to trip over hookers and drug dealers on their way to get some under age drinking busts and electric cords...is ok, though?

is that what I said?  trying to justify the rants by saying they're ignoring other things isn't going to fly

They went into a neighborhood that constantly has trouble getting JSO to not ignore hookers, thugs, and drug dealers to bust some underage drinkers and christmas lights.

This is what I have a problem with.  Priorities seems a little f'd up at this point.

you could be right but the violations shouldn't be ignored, see my other reply

I agree, they shouldn't be ignored, I would just think that they would be a little lower on the to-do-list.

[apvbguy]

So the fact that they nearly had to trip over hookers and drug dealers on their way to get some under age drinking busts and electric cords...is ok, though?

is that what I said?  trying to justify the rants by saying they're ignoring other things isn't going to fly

They went into a neighborhood that constantly has trouble getting JSO to not ignore hookers, thugs, and drug dealers to bust some underage drinkers and christmas lights.

This is what I have a problem with.  Priorities seems a little f'd up at this point.

you could be right but the violations shouldn't be ignored, see my other reply

I agree, they shouldn't be ignored, I would just think that they would be a little lower on the to-do-list.

sorry to say that I don't agree with you, a crowded nightclub with violations like this is a tragedy in the making, there have been many cases of fires in places like this with multiple deaths and injuries, we really wouldn't want that to happen

[uptowngirl]

Armed robberies by crack heads and trannies, ice cream drivers being shot for $20, residents being carjacked by gun and no one doing anything about it is a tragedy.... so someone trips over an extension cord? So what?

I have to agree there are higher priority issues for these people; this is a waste of time and tax payers’ dollars. Just send in an inspector and be done with it, it did not have to happen this way and our police and DART teams should be targeting real criminals and real brothels and real crack houses and there are plenty that they just ignore.

[fpj]

Armed robberies by crack heads and trannies, ice cream drivers being shot for $20, residents being carjacked by gun and no one doing anything about it is a tragedy.... so someone trips over an extension cord? So what?

I have to agree there are higher priority issues for these people; this is a waste of time and tax payers’ dollars. Just send in an inspector and be done with it, it did not have to happen this way and our police and DART teams should be targeting real criminals and real brothels and real crack houses and there are plenty that they just ignore.

I agree.  However, I also find it interesting how years ago people had an equally valid point that various government agencies statistically overly targeted minorities and blue collar crime.  Now that the pendulum appears to have swung and it hits white collar, all of a sudden, waa waa waa.  Without sounding righteous, The Pearl had 90 (or however many days since TSI was shutdown) chances to remove the extension cords and so forth to fix the petty issues every club owner in town knows these kinds of raids or sweeps look for.  So, if they didn't even do that, I can't help but wonder what else they didn't care enough about.  But, regardless, if it's just petty issues and not major building ones that plagued other places, they should be back open in no time.  Nothing brings in business more than a righteous grand reopening party

-fpj

[apvbguy]

Armed robberies by crack heads and trannies, ice cream drivers being shot for $20, residents being carjacked by gun and no one doing anything about it is a tragedy.... so someone trips over an extension cord? So what?

I have to agree there are higher priority issues for these people; this is a waste of time and tax payers’ dollars. Just send in an inspector and be done with it, it did not have to happen this way and our police and DART teams should be targeting real criminals and real brothels and real crack houses and there are plenty that they just ignore.

I agree.  However, I also find it interesting how years ago people had an equally valid point that various government agencies statistically overly targeted minorities and blue collar crime.  Now that the pendulum appears to have swung and it hits white collar, all of a sudden, waa waa waa.  Without sounding righteous, The Pearl had 90 (or however many days since TSI was shutdown) chances to remove the extension cords and so forth to fix the petty issues every club owner in town knows these kinds of raids or sweeps look for.  So, if they didn't even do that, I can't help but wonder what else they didn't care enough about.  But, regardless, if it's just petty issues and not major building ones that plagued other places, they should be back open in no time.  Nothing brings in business more than a righteous grand reopening party

-fpj

and I am sure that we can all agree to hope that they enjoy a safe and very successful future

[Lunican]

So how many drug and underage drinking violations did they find?

[David]

My original email to the DART point of contact was inquiring about the length of the shutdown, and why they feel the need to shutdown businesses for such an extended period of time over relatively minor offenses. I was basically saying the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

I understand the violations and JSO's intent, but if it takes months to open back up, it really is too severe a penalty. Is there a reason it's taken TSI so long to open back up? I know i'm ranting a bit but i'm really curious to find out the facts on this. I have a feeling even with the facts it won't change the overall concensus that it's a misguided effort to control crime & drugs. It's all for show.

[Ocklawaha]

You really want to bust all the Whores? Think rehab! Most are trapped, there is no excuse for the City to bust The Pearl as a location or to single out individuals hanging on the lamp post. People should be treated as humans...gosh what a thought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivA_f7DRdE

OCKLAWAHA
Sorry for not posting the video, but trying to follow the techie instructions hidden in some thread, was like leaving bread crumbs at a convention of crows.

[JaxByDefault]

So how many drug and underage drinking violations did they find?

None. Code violations only.

[RiversideGator]

Is there really a need to shut a place down based on these bogus/minor voliations? It seems with all the letigatation they have to go through it really does keep a business down for WAY too long. It's more than taking away a fun place to go and get drunk, it affects peoples livelyhoods.


One guy's got the right idea, contact those in the DART program and ask them politely wtf is their problem! There's also gotta be other people to contact to let them know it's really a dick move on the city/jso's part.

I don't know what you guys are thinking, sure thing that many of the violations are piddly in nature but nonetheless they are violations, should they be ignored? are you guys really in favor of lawlessness? or maybe a tragedy in a nightclub that has things like electric cords ( FYI a good majority of fires start from faulty wiring) to wake you guys up. If there is underage drinking should that be ignored? come on guys, think before ranting

So the fact that they nearly had to trip over hookers and drug dealers on their way to get some under age drinking busts and electric cords...is ok, though?

No, both are wrong and should be corrected.

[RiversideGator]

For a bar and dance club, I've always found the Pearl to be rather stringent with ID checks and the staff quick to catch kids washing off under-age hand markings or swapping bracelets. You couldn't possibly mistake me for underage, yet they always flatter me with an ID check and bracelet.

Good point.  I too have been carded there and I hardly look under 21 anymore.