The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

tufsu1

Quote from: KenFSU on February 18, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
It's worth pointing out that the proposed renovations to the club seat sections at Everbank will reduce stadium capacity by approximately 3,000, bringing the total down to 64,000.

Great move for this market.

I'm not a huge fan of asking the City to fund major improvements only available to those that are already wealthy.  Will be interesting to see what the public share vs. private share will be

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: KenFSU on February 18, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
It's worth pointing out that the proposed renovations to the club seat sections at Everbank will reduce stadium capacity by approximately 3,000, bringing the total down to 64,000.

Great move for this market.

Also per Lamping, not only are we reducing our overall seating, but while we're doing that, we're still increasing our percentage of higher-end seating which is a huge plus on our bottom line.  I've been impressed with the job done so far to come up with creative solutions to their problems. 

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 18, 2015, 11:39:00 AMI'm not a huge fan of asking the City to fund major improvements only available to those that are already wealthy.  Will be interesting to see what the public share vs. private share will be

They're looking at a State program for the club enhancements, I'm not sure how much city money is in play on this one.  But don't worry, when the seating expense for the FL/GA game comes after the renovations are done, there will be plenty of discussion on how Khan blindsided the city with extra recurring expenses again.

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duvaldude08

Decided Id peep my head in for a few. I see Ive missed alot of conversation so I'll sum up my thoughts on recent developments. As far as the coaching staff hires, I like that they have done. Theyve brought in experiences coaches to develop young players. As far as Olson, he crafts his offense based on his players strengths. That is why there are a lot of people who are split about Carr's rookie season. The general thoughts are that he played well only because Olson crafted the offense based on his strengths. The major problem with Jedd was he didnt call plays based on what we did well. He just called plays. And he would keep calling them until they dont work, which was usually after the offense didnt move for two quarters. Then all of a sudden, the offense magically opened up and they looked like a real football team. Our offense does a lot of things well, and thats what we need to focus on, and just build on that. We have a lot of young talent that has to be developed and cultivated correctly. I believe that theyve taken the necessary step to do that. That something that del rio and company never did and we see what the results were. While the hires werent flashy, I can see what they are doing.
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I-10east

The Jags will release Blackmon, Will Blackmon. I think that he is a pretty solid player, although it's understandable that the Jags are wanting to get younger in the secondary.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/26/jaguars-will-part-ways-with-will-blackmon/

Gators312

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on February 18, 2015, 01:08:05 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on February 18, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
It's worth pointing out that the proposed renovations to the club seat sections at Everbank will reduce stadium capacity by approximately 3,000, bringing the total down to 64,000.

Great move for this market.

Also per Lamping, not only are we reducing our overall seating, but while we're doing that, we're still increasing our percentage of higher-end seating which is a huge plus on our bottom line.  I've been impressed with the job done so far to come up with creative solutions to their problems. 

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 18, 2015, 11:39:00 AMI'm not a huge fan of asking the City to fund major improvements only available to those that are already wealthy.  Will be interesting to see what the public share vs. private share will be

They're looking at a State program for the club enhancements, I'm not sure how much city money is in play on this one.  But don't worry, when the seating expense for the FL/GA game comes after the renovations are done, there will be plenty of discussion on how Khan blindsided the city with extra recurring expenses again.

Any word on how they will accommodate the removal of the club seats for the FL/GA game?  Last year the additional seating seemed as if it was maxed out in the added locations?

Tacachale

^Yes, that will be an interesting contingency. Hopefully they'll plan it better with this one.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Gators312 on February 26, 2015, 11:53:53 AM
Any word on how they will accommodate the removal of the club seats for the FL/GA game?  Last year the additional seating seemed as if it was maxed out in the added locations?

Temporary seating, just like is done in the endzones. 

Quote from: Tacachale on February 26, 2015, 02:27:49 PM
^Yes, that will be an interesting contingency. Hopefully they'll plan it better with this one.

It was in the presentation, so like I stated, it won't be a surprise until someone wants to act surprised about additional funds required for FL/GA.

But...

The majority of the costs of the additional seating were in the types of seats used for the game (cupholders and individual backs ilo bench seats) made at the request of the participating schools.  I would assume that the city will be left on the hook for the additional costs here, but maybe there is an cost-share agreement worked out in advance since these changes are coming from and will directly benefit the Jaguars.

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RattlerGator

Eventually, Florida-Georgia needs to leave the damn stadium as is and utilize the up-pricing model employed by the Jags for the club seats, etc. It makes demand for the tickets that much greater, and allows the two universities to maximize their annual return. We don't need 80k in the stadium to try and assert status or to try and satisfy boosters and friends of the two programs. That is outdated old-school thinking. This game has been nationally televised for two decades and draws high ratings every year. And, everything in the college game is changing anyway.

Get with the program, Gators and Dawgs. The Jags are doing a damn good job as Pathfinders; follow them.

Tacachale

They do need to accommodate thousands of student tickets at reasonable prices, though, and to remain competitive with other new stadiums. Capacity is what gives us the edge over those other stadiums.
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I-10east

Quote from: RattlerGator on February 26, 2015, 04:50:28 PM
Eventually, Florida-Georgia needs to leave the damn stadium as is and utilize the up-pricing model employed by the Jags for the club seats, etc. It makes demand for the tickets that much greater, and allows the two universities to maximize their annual return. We don't need 80k in the stadium to try and assert status or to try and satisfy boosters and friends of the two programs. That is outdated old-school thinking. This game has been nationally televised for two decades and draws high ratings every year. And, everything in the college game is changing anyway.

Get with the program, Gators and Dawgs. The Jags are doing a damn good job as Pathfinders; follow them.

I like the longstanding FL/GA game here, but I'm also sick of these parameters with the Jags having to bend over backwards to accommodate this annual 'Easter Sunday' game. I won't be a bit surprised if both club entrances will be roped off, forcing people to sit on bleachers during one Jag game just to have FL/GA, it's ridiculous. During the 2014 MIA game, no pools, no State Farm Fan Cave, it's crazy. Rope of the top catwalks, and squeeze in an additional 2,000 seats up there too damn it...

RattlerGator

Quote from: Tacachale on February 26, 2015, 05:17:36 PM
They do need to accommodate thousands of student tickets at reasonable prices, though, and to remain competitive with other new stadiums. Capacity is what gives us the edge over those other stadiums.
Florida-Georgia is never going to Atlanta. Never. The only real competitors are the on-campus stadiums, and the sums derived from the Jacksonville game every year versus what is earned once every two years outpaces what could be earned by the athletic departments on-campus.

Also, I doubt very much if there are many student tickets sold for this game at all. There sure weren't many when I was in Gainesville. The demand for the tickets comes from the tradition, the spectacle, the party. Meaning: the alumni and friends. They can reduce the number of tickets sold -- ticket sales are dropping for college games nationally and thousands come for the Florida-Georgia parties and never attend the game anyway. That's the just the fact of the matter.

Both universities need to just wake the hell up and adjust to the new reality. Quit making us build those damn temporary seats. It's absurd.

Tacachale

^About 10k seats are set aside for students. And of course many students buy tickets elsewhere in the stadium (that's what I did).

As for other locations, the campus stadiums are probably the least likely competitor, since, as you say, the teams would only get revenue on their home year, instead of every year. However, there are certainly elements that would like to see Atlanta added to the mix (in rotation with other stadiums). That will only continue with the new stadium, and the Citrus Bowl has repeatedly tried to steal the game away. The game's place in Jax is a lot more vulnerable than people often think.
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I-10east

^^^Don't they have a contract from like now to infinity? The Citrus Bowl??? LOL, haven't heard about the one. Bottomline, any current relocation talk with the FL/GA game is just greatly misguided speculation. I agree with RattlerGator that this 80K attendance crap is unnecessary in today's age of technology (ie the Jags reduced seating). By not adding so much temporary seating, it will create a demand-friendly 'tough ticket' atmosphere.

Tacachale

They do contracts of a few years (usually four, currently six) and this contract is up next year. The Citrus Bowl was trying to steal the game back before they rennovated it. The big advantage we've always had is capacity. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the game is  more vulnerable than many think.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?