Khan's Jacksonville Shipyards Plans Revealed

Started by Metro Jacksonville, February 17, 2015, 01:10:01 PM

floridaal

Would there be a possibility Deutsche Bank would consolidate their offices in the Shipyards?

tufsu1

Quote from: southsider1015 on February 19, 2015, 08:23:44 PM
Can we at least get something straight here?  Industrial engineers are not engineers in the literal sense. 

actually they are.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that industrial engineers are not civil engineers.

CityLife

Quote from: floridaal on February 19, 2015, 11:50:21 PM
Would there be a possibility Deutsche Bank would consolidate their offices in the Shipyards?

I've heard from someone in management at the local office that they are pretty set on staying on the Southside. Apparently many of the employees live at the Beach, Southside, or SJC and do not want to commute to Downtown. His level of confidence was close to 100% that they would stay on the Southside. In fact, I believe they may even be in advanced talks for a specific location.

That said, if Khan comes at DB and offers a healthy incentive package (reduced office rent, residential discounts for employees, etc) maybe they would change their mind. However, I think they may be too far along to wait for the Shipyards.

I've always thought the key to making The Shipyards project successful long term is having a corporate office anchor or two, along with destination retail/dining. If I'm Khan and have the money and patience to make a long term play, I'm offering DB or another major employer discounted/free rent for a few years. As well as discounted rent for destination retail like Urban Outfitters, Crate and Barrel; and dining for a Matthew Medure, Tom Gray, or prominent out of town restaurateur.

Beloki

We all believe that the shipyard site is a prime location; downtown, riverfront and waiting to be developed. Khan is a smart business man and he sees and believes in the potential. He is also the only one that can bring this kind of inspiration/development plans together on this scale. Let's support him.

I do believe that the development of this site goes hand in hand with making Jax a destination for relocation. I would say with the kind of winter the Northeast is having: it shouldn't be that difficult. Khan should bring the Jax on tour to Germany in the off season (Football, the American Football is still hugely populair over there) With Deutsche Bank here and VW coming to JaxPort; let's have some other big German companies relocate to Jax (BMW, Siemens, Bosch, Allianz, t-Mobile, SAP, Continental, Lufthansa); have 2 or 3 big corporate anchors in the Shipyards and add a couple of direct flights to Europe in the mix..... I am a believer !

KenFSU

Quote from: CityLife on February 20, 2015, 09:29:12 AM
I've always thought the key to making The Shipyards project successful long term is having a corporate office anchor or two.

This is where the synergy with London could be very beneficial.

tufsu1

Quote from: KenFSU on February 20, 2015, 10:01:08 AM
Quote from: CityLife on February 20, 2015, 09:29:12 AM
I've always thought the key to making The Shipyards project successful long term is having a corporate office anchor or two.

This is where the synergy with London could be very beneficial.

Jeff Vinik is thinking the same thing in Tampa.  they are considering building a spec office building with the intent of luring a Fortune 500 HQ to relocate.

PeeJayEss

Quote from: RattlerGator on February 19, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
Well, Massa simms, yo ass be wrong on that score.

Are you intimating that simms' critique of a billion dollar development concept makes him akin to a slave owner?
Totally reasonable.

InnerCityPressure

Quote from: Beloki on February 20, 2015, 09:56:01 AM
We all believe that the shipyard site is a prime location; downtown, riverfront and waiting to be developed. Khan is a smart business man and he sees and believes in the potential. He is also the only one that can bring this kind of inspiration/development plans together on this scale. Let's support him.

I do believe that the development of this site goes hand in hand with making Jax a destination for relocation. I would say with the kind of winter the Northeast is having: it shouldn't be that difficult. Khan should bring the Jax on tour to Germany in the off season (Football, the American Football is still hugely populair over there) With Deutsche Bank here and VW coming to JaxPort; let's have some other big German companies relocate to Jax (BMW, Siemens, Bosch, Allianz, t-Mobile, SAP, Continental, Lufthansa); have 2 or 3 big corporate anchors in the Shipyards and add a couple of direct flights to Europe in the mix..... I am a believer !

Chattanooga has been successful with this and they have formed a really cool German subculture in the past five years or so.  Ken is right that ours would probably be the British connection if Khan has something to do with it, but who knows?

ProjectMaximus

London is our most common European O/D point. Internationally, it's the second most common behind Toronto barely.

Manila is fourth and Frankfurt is fifth, not surprisingly, considering the large presence of Filipinos and the ties to German business already stated in this thread. What is surprising is how far London and Frankfurt fell between 2003-2011, but I imagine that is picking back up now.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/interactives/aviation

daretoyawn

yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

I'm still waiting to be impressed.

southsider1015

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 20, 2015, 08:05:59 AM
Quote from: southsider1015 on February 19, 2015, 08:23:44 PM
Can we at least get something straight here?  Industrial engineers are not engineers in the literal sense. 

actually they are.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that industrial engineers are not civil engineers.

Disagree. IEs have the breadth of MEs and EE/CEs, but not the depth. Six Sigma is a joke. The term "engineer" is too loosely used these days.  I'll leave it there.




Stan

Will this space use renewable energy? Like solar panels. I would love to see Jacksonville take more of the lead on that. We need to have more renewable energy in this city.

tufsu1

Quote from: southsider1015 on February 20, 2015, 08:27:56 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 20, 2015, 08:05:59 AM
Quote from: southsider1015 on February 19, 2015, 08:23:44 PM
Can we at least get something straight here?  Industrial engineers are not engineers in the literal sense. 

actually they are.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that industrial engineers are not civil engineers.

Disagree. IEs have the breadth of MEs and EE/CEs, but not the depth. Six Sigma is a joke. The term "engineer" is too loosely used these days.  I'll leave it there.

no...please tell us more...why is Industrial Engineering at the University of Illinois not a real engineering program

http://engineering.illinois.edu/academics/undergraduate/majors-and-minors.html

Coolyfett

Quote from: RattlerGator on February 19, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
The dap that simms gets on this board is so disappointing. He's so obviously a weirdly-obsessed troll, and rather sophomoric too -- even if knowledgeable about some matters, he's wildly ignorant on others.).
ive seen Simms around online since maybe 2006 2007, between metrojacksonville and city data, his postings have be pretty consistent. Simms can be annoyingly snobbish, some what sheltered when it comes to the non WASP way of life, BUT troll isnt a tag Id give him. From what ive seen he obviously cares a degree about the happenings of Jax as do most of the regulars. Simms reminds me of Brainy smurf, and some of you smurfs are over reacting to the kid. Now about this project, id hope it brings in things Downtown Jax needs, mainly people coming, spending, living and being. Downtown is the spot people come to spend breifly then retreat back to the burbs. Every time I visit family downtown is dead. Heck the Beaches seem to have more going on then Downtown. It just needs something that generates repeat visits from the average metro citizen, some of these ideas Im not too sure about. The best things listed is the hotel and the creek restoration. The Riverwalk connecting Metropark to the Landing is a great idea as well. Do Jacksonville people really want a place to watch fish? Doesnt Florida have enough of those? How about a satellite campus for JU, UNF, EWC all in the same set up. If they do a practice field, why not do a joint effort with the Armada, unless they dont plan on being in Jax for the long haul. If there is any sports field there its needs to do more then be a place for the Jaguars to practice. Love the Naval ship museum idea, thats long overdue. This project just needs more venues that bring all different types of people to this location, corporate employees, tourist, students, sports fans, downtown employees, nightlife. Right now it only seems to be good for sports fans, mainly Jags fans and visitors. What happens when football is out of season?
Mike Hogan Destruction Eruption!

Charles Hunter

Random question - if the Jaguars build practice fields at the Shipyards, what happens to the space with the current practice fields?