The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

Downtown Osprey

I've finally accepted the fact that while it sucks being 0-6, we have our QB, the most important piece of the puzzle. He has already shown in a small sample size that he can keep us in ball games. Just a matter of team before it all starts to come together.

pierre

Quote from: RattlerGator on October 13, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
Everything is all good this year. Gus isn't a problem, he's a plus, and we're in the Todd Gurley sweepstakes.

If we get Gurley, we're just about there gang. Just a few more pieces on defense and we'll be solid.

There is no Gurley Sweepstakes. The NFL has changed.

Beloki

Maybe it is the owner? Khan both his sport teams are performing horribly.

The Fulham Fotball Club has been relegated after Khan took over :" the media criticised chairman Shahid Khan's decision to sack Meulensteen and appoint the third manager of the season in Felix Magath, with Sky Sports's Jamie Redknapp going as far to say "what did Fulham expect The Telegraph that the club was 'no longer well run' as it had been under Al Fayed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_F.C.)

Just saying .......

duvaldude08

Quote from: Beloki on October 14, 2014, 09:34:00 AM
Maybe it is the owner? Khan both his sport teams are performing horribly.

The Fulham Fotball Club has been relegated after Khan took over :" the media criticised chairman Shahid Khan's decision to sack Meulensteen and appoint the third manager of the season in Felix Magath, with Sky Sports's Jamie Redknapp going as far to say "what did Fulham expect The Telegraph that the club was 'no longer well run' as it had been under Al Fayed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_F.C.)

Just saying .......

Well thats neither or there. He bought to sport franchises that were a complete diaster and are trying to turn them around. It doesnt happen overnight. Both franchises were failing when he bought them. He's only been the Jags owner since 2012. So nah, its not the owner. good try though
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duvaldude08

Quote from: Downtown Osprey on October 14, 2014, 08:59:16 AM
I've finally accepted the fact that while it sucks being 0-6, we have our QB, the most important piece of the puzzle. He has already shown in a small sample size that he can keep us in ball games. Just a matter of team before it all starts to come together.

Now I understand why people in the media were saying that the Jags wont compete until 2015, and its actually going just how they predicted it. We have our QB and have some pieces in place. Next years free agency and draft should position to make a little noise. We are already getting closer and closer. We were not even close to winning a game this time last year.
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RattlerGator

Quote from: pierre on October 14, 2014, 09:07:57 AM
Quote from: RattlerGator on October 13, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
Everything is all good this year. Gus isn't a problem, he's a plus, and we're in the Todd Gurley sweepstakes.

If we get Gurley, we're just about there gang. Just a few more pieces on defense and we'll be solid.

There is no Gurley Sweepstakes. The NFL has changed.
Yes, the NFL has changed, but -- wrong -- there *is* a Gurley sweepstakes and you still must be able to successfully run in the NFL.

We absolutely need Todd Gurley. He should be our number one pick, period.

pierre

Quote from: RattlerGator on October 14, 2014, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: pierre on October 14, 2014, 09:07:57 AM
Quote from: RattlerGator on October 13, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
Everything is all good this year. Gus isn't a problem, he's a plus, and we're in the Todd Gurley sweepstakes.

If we get Gurley, we're just about there gang. Just a few more pieces on defense and we'll be solid.

There is no Gurley Sweepstakes. The NFL has changed.
Yes, the NFL has changed, but -- wrong -- there *is* a Gurley sweepstakes and you still must be able to successfully run in the NFL.

We absolutely need Todd Gurley. He should be our number one pick, period.

So you think Gurley will be the first pick?

duvaldude08

Well I just gus took responbility for the lost and acknowledge that the team has things to work on and so does he. Cant ask for more than that.  Gus is a humble and hes a new HC, so he's gonna make mistakes. Lets just get things right this week!
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Downtown Osprey

Cleveland is without a doubt a beatable team. I know they are a lot of peoples "hot" team right now but beating Pittsburgh doesn't mean much to me. The Steelers lost to the Bucs for god sakes.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: RattlerGator on October 14, 2014, 10:52:56 AM
We absolutely need Todd Gurley. He should be our number one pick, period.

Hmmmmm......

I will agree with you if we finish out the season 10-0 and are picking 20 or below, but never would I take a running back with a top 15 pick in todays NFL.

I'm not a draftnik by any means, but based on what we have and what I think we need, and assuming the we'll be picking in the top 10, yet again, I'd like to see us take a DE or DT first.  Clemons and Bryant are exactly spring chickens.  We're going to need someone to fill their spots in a year or two.
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RattlerGator

Yes, I'm saying Gurley should be the number one pick. That's whether we're the absolute number one or the third pick in the first round, whatever. It is pure laziness (IMHO) to stick with this line about who should or should not be taken with that pick when QBs are regularly taken and are no better than a 50-50 proposition.

We desperately need the kind of back Todd Gurley is. With what we already have, he instantly makes the O-line better and puts our entire offense over the top.

For that reason alone, he is worthy of our number one pick.

MEGATRON

Quote from: duvaldude08 on October 14, 2014, 11:16:23 AM
Well I just gus took responbility for the lost and acknowledge that the team has things to work on and so does he. Cant ask for more than that.  Gus is a humble and hes a new HC, so he's gonna make mistakes. Lets just get things right this week!
He needs to take responsibility.  It was a horribly coached game.  I can ask for more than that - don't make the same mistakes again.  I don't care that he's humble.  I don't care that he's new.  He was hired because it was believed he was ready to be a head coach.  He needs to show us that that belief was warranted.  To date, I have not seen it.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

We'll agree to disagree. 

QBs may have a 50-50 shot at being successful, but how many QBs drafted after the 4th round have been successful not named Tom Brady?

How about RBs?

I don't know for a fact, but I bet with a quick look at profootballreference.com, I can find more productive RBs drafted in later rounds (4th and later) than you can find QBs (Third and later - I'll give you Russell Wilson)
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MEGATRON

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 14, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
We'll agree to disagree. 

QBs may have a 50-50 shot at being successful, but how many QBs drafted after the 4th round have been successful not named Tom Brady?

How about RBs?

I don't know for a fact, but I bet with a quick look at profootballreference.com, I can find more productive RBs drafted in later rounds (4th and later) than you can find QBs (Third and later - I'll give you Russell Wilson)
I'd be betting with Westsider.  Besides, and I say this with the belief that Gurley will be a good NFL RB, UGA's freshmen are rushing just as effectively behind that UGA line.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: MEGATRON on October 14, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
He needs to take responsibility.  It was a horribly coached game.  I can ask for more than that - don't make the same mistakes again.  I don't care that he's humble.  I don't care that he's new.  He was hired because it was believed he was ready to be a head coach.  He needs to show us that that belief was warranted.  To date, I have not seen it.

I didn't see the presser, but from the comments I've read on BCC, he's pretty much owned up to it as far as screwing the pooch on the last game.

I think you're dead on with the point about not repeated the same mistakes. 

To be honest, last week has been the only test regarding clock management since we haven't been close at the end of many games in the past two seasons.  So while I'm not giving him a pass per se, it's just not something that he's had much experience with either. 
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