The $100 Million Jacksonville Jaguars Scoreboards

Started by Metro Jacksonville, September 29, 2014, 03:00:03 AM

I-10east

#60
^^^I think that he is just PO'd with this very redundant topic that was already talked about ad nausem, and I can relate with the frustration of beating a dead horse over and over again. I didn't read anything over the top on what he said. Just type in 'scoreboards' in the search, and look at how many times that this already has been covered. Bizjax, and jaxdailyrecord have been lit up with recent good paying jobs coming to the city, but we rather talk about scoreboards all day....

I'm not gonna even entertain this stupid topic no longer. If anyone feel like me, boycott this topic, and let the scoreboard haters duke it out amongst each other. 

copperfiend


KenFSU


TheCat

Quote from: I-10east on October 03, 2014, 01:15:30 PM
^^^I think that he is just PO'd with this very redundant topic that was already talked about ad nausem, and I can relate with the frustration of beating a dead horse over and over again. I didn't read anything over the top on what he said. Just type in 'scoreboards' in the search, and look at how many times that this already has been covered. Bizjax, and jaxdailyrecord have been lit up with recent good paying jobs coming to the city, but we rather talk about scoreboards all day....

I'm not gonna even entertain this stupid topic no longer. If anyone feel like me, boycott this topic, and let the scoreboard haters duke it out amongst each other.

If someone decided to do an analysis of courthouse expenditures it should be welcomed not decried as "beating a dead horse." If someone decided to look to see if library dollars or park dollars were spent wisely, that should be welcomed.

At every turn, if someone in our community decides to look at how money is spent we are all better off and wiser.

When I read your statements about the scoreboards, it seems you do think the amount of money spent was too much so you would rather silence the conversation than productively engage with it.

There is no such thing as "beating a dead horse" when it comes to discussing how our city is governed or how tax dollars are spent.

Boycott away.  ???






strider

Besides, beating a dead horse never bother the horse much anyway. 

I'm not a scoreboard hater nor do I care all that much either way   But I am so tried of seeing the mishandling of funds, the too often misuse of our tax dollars, be they state, local or federal and frankly, the scoreboards are border line being misuse when the budget is in bad shape and they forget about things like the maintenance.  these funds could have been used elsewhere as long as they were in the same category of sports or entertainment. The number of home games or play off games is totally immaterial.  They would happen anyway.  It is only any new stuff that would never have happened without the scoreboards that will determine if they were a good investment or just one more of this city's wasted efforts. Even determining that will be a tough call. I would be more hopefully if I didn't know this city's track record.
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Rob68

This city deserves what it gets. We have elected a city council that apparently felt its was just fine to blow this kind of cssh as thought it were theres alone. Are we not going to hold them accountable to their decisions?..Did they not understand what they were doing?...Were they lied to or cohersed into believing a bunch of bullshit by a man in a big mustache and pig skin dreams? 

ronchamblin

The success or failure of city funded projects around and in the core has considerable impact upon the willingness of citizens to accept paying additional taxes; this influences the rate at which the city core proceeds to vibrancy via incentives and infrastructure enhancements.   

As an increasing number of publicly assisted or funded projects (the Skyway, the Landing, the Super-Sized Screens etc.) are viewed as failures, wastes, or mediocrities by way of error or stupidity, the persuasion for higher taxes becomes more difficult. 

Conversely, an increased number of successful projects will allow perceptions of efficiency and real payback; thus easing the process for a more realistic tax base for the area. 

If too many of the individuals in positions of influence and voting continue to be infected with the negative aspects of politics, favoritism, ignorance, and stupidity ... errors and waste of public funds will continue, and only the naive will be convinced to pay more taxes. 

WmNussbaum

COJ put up a good percentage of the cost of the JUMBOTRONS, but what percentage of the ad revenue they produce goes to COJ?

Dog Walker

Quote from: WmNussbaum on October 04, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
COJ put up a good percentage of the cost of the JUMBOTRONS, but what percentage of the ad revenue they produce goes to COJ?

Bill, you just gave me a good laugh!
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UNFurbanist

Please watch this segment on sports teams from Last Week Tonight with John Oliver! Jacksonville is guilty of almost all of this but we are certainly not alone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwJt4bcnXs

Noone

Quote from: Dog Walker on October 04, 2014, 09:55:31 AM
Quote from: WmNussbaum on October 04, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
COJ put up a good percentage of the cost of the JUMBOTRONS, but what percentage of the ad revenue they produce goes to COJ?

Bill, you just gave me a good laugh!

+1
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ProjectMaximus

Quote from: UNFurbanist on July 13, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
Please watch this segment on sports teams from Last Week Tonight with John Oliver! Jacksonville is guilty of almost all of this but we are certainly not alone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwJt4bcnXs

Thanks for the share. LOL @ second-most laid.

TheCat

#72
Great bit from John Oliver. Thanks for sharing.

paraphrased quote:

You'd be better off dropping a billion dollars on the populace and letting them spend it.

Adam White

I really can't stand John Oliver. But people should watch this. Or maybe more journalists should do stories on stuff like this. It's really some of the worst corporate welfare - yet people turn a blind eye (or openly agitate for it) because they like sports and fear losing their "local" sports franchise.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

TheCat

QuoteJacksonville spending $1.35 million on temporary seats for Florida-Georgia game

The city of Jacksonville is spending $1.35 million to have temporary seating installed for the Florida-Georgia college football game.
Matson Drywall & Building Contractor LLC pulled a city building permit yesterday for the Oct. 31 game at EverBank Field. The permit describes the project as "installation of north, south, east and west temporary seating" for the game.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/money_makers/2015/10/jacksonville-spending-1-35-million-on-temporary.html?ana=RSS&s=article_search