Downtown Fresh Market Opens

[edjax]

Suggest you get on their email.  They have some nice deals on wines and various items on Saturdays. 

[thelakelander]

Could someone on this thread please give me their idea of "downtown" Jacksonville.  I grew up thinking that from Riverside Ave, downtown began around Bay street and the "core" centered around Hemming Park.  Now people speak of Brooklyn as being downtown, locations on the Southbank being downtown, and Avondale being within the urban core.  Is Talleyrand downtown?

Historically, downtown is the Northbank area generally described the Stephen in reply #56. Here is what is officially considered downtown today:

If so, where do the suburbs begin?  Thanks for the input.

Suburbs from what era.  Springfield is a 19th century suburb. Riverside and San Marco are 1920s era suburbs.  If we're going to consider them inner city neighborhoods (most would today), then most are probably going to consider autocentric growth or post WWII growth and development as the suburbs.  Since the city's land area didn't change between the Great Depression and consolidation in 1968, it can be argued that everything outside of the original "once" walkable city of Jacksonville is suburbs.  So if it's not in red, consider it suburbs of the sprawling type:

[deathstar]

Does anyone who lives minutes from Roosevelt Publix see themselves driving that distance just to shop there? It will be interesting to see what impact this opening will have on the Riverside Publix in 6-8 months & a full year.

[benfranklinbof]

I drive there from Murray hill. Bye bye Publix! Hello freshy market!

[Steve]

I don't see a major impact on the Riverside Publix. It's not like we had Winn-Dixie and Publix came and blew them out of the water. There will be some impact for sure, but I'm more curious of the impact for places like Pinegrove Deli (beef) and Swimming Yesterday (Seafood).

Fresh Market is great for things like protein, cheeses, things where people want a better quality item, etc. It is not great for pre-packaged stuff or a staple, like Coca-Cola, which was something like $6 for a 12 Pack at Fresh Market.

[funwithteeth]

As suggested earlier, this is likely to have more of a negative impact on Grassroots than Publix. Publix has two locations in Mandarin, which also has Whole Foods. Fresh Market and Whole Foods targets different shoppers than Publix.

[jcjohnpaint]

After going to the Fresh Market, I don't think there is little if any crossover.  I will still continue to go to Publix.  I think Grassroots has more specialized supplies and followers, plus a great beer selection.  I think we need to stop feeling that there is only a certain amount of residents willing to shop in the city.  Many people are going to be living in and around FM in a matter of time, and how many people work in town and go home to the south side and shop there.  I did it all the time until we moved to Avondale. 

[MusicMan]

Unless I am mistaken there are 300-400 new apartments going in within a block of Fresh Market. It will do just fine.

In fact I believe they could put another Starbucks into that development and it would be busy without disrupting the one already at Riverside Market Square. That location is out of control.

[thelakelander]

1200 units within 2 blocks....

[MusicMan]

1200 units, then they will be busy all day.

[jaxjags]

jcjohn makes a good point. I live on the Northside close to First Coast HS. I shopped at Fresh Market on Atlantic and in Manadarin many times, always for fresh meat, seafood, produce and items you cant find other places. I will use this store a lot for this is now more convienent. I travel through DT to visit clients and can stop on way home without going out of my way. We also come DT to do things you cant do on Northside. Not long from now a perfect Saturday will be Riverside Arts Market followed by the Cummer and late lunch at Biscotti's. Then off to Intuition near the stadium and finally Fresh Market on way home. More perfect is to dump car at River City Marketplace and do this whole trip on light rail and street car. But as I am older, that will not happen for me I'm afraid.

[ProjectMaximus]

1200 units within 2 blocks....

It's 600 units. A large number, no doubt, but they're also all 2 beds or less. Perhaps Brooklyn will add close to a thousand residents.

[IrvAdams]

jcjohn makes a good point. I live on the Northside close to First Coast HS. I shopped at Fresh Market on Atlantic and in Manadarin many times, always for fresh meat, seafood, produce and items you cant find other places. I will use this store a lot for this is now more convienent. I travel through DT to visit clients and can stop on way home without going out of my way. We also come DT to do things you cant do on Northside. Not long from now a perfect Saturday will be Riverside Arts Market followed by the Cummer and late lunch at Biscotti's. Then off to Intuition near the stadium and finally Fresh Market on way home. More perfect is to dump car at River City Marketplace and do this whole trip on light rail and street car. But as I am older, that will not happen for me I'm afraid.

Good thoughts, my friend. Sounds like an interesting day trip to me.

[Ocklawaha]

Downtown has shifted somewhat south over the years. Stephendare and I found a reference to downtown's boundaries back around 1910-20 and they used Hogans Creek, Beaver Street, Myrtle, Mc Coy's Creek and the River as the boundaries. It's rather sad to see the area west of I-95 has been cut off and turned into a no-mans land. This is one reason why I am such a huge proponent of taking any future streetcar down Bay to Myrtle in order to go south into Riverside. It sets the entire west side of the interstate up for TOD. Okay, now back to the pork chops.

[jcjohnpaint]

Never thought of that.  It is a fantastic idea and only seems logical.