Jay Fant

[Sentient]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

That's the thing, the crap that "every" aspiring politico does creates our failed legislative system.  It is time to break with this, which is what has the machine and the lobbyists so concerned with Fant.  He is not some mere striver who will sell out to the powers in Tallanasty (he has his own money). He actually has convictions and beliefs.  He has suffered for these and you may not share them, but someone who follows a principled path is worth something.

Predict more crass and increasingly lunatic behavior to come from the very well funded lobbyists...

[Sentient]

Welcome to the south, sentient.  In the north side races, the sign sabotage usually resorts to fisticuffs and sometimes gunplay.   

Im sure Jay Fant is sincere in his beliefs, but surrounding himself with people like the Tea Party/ JEA seamster isn't very comforting is it?

I would take Tea Party over the old guard Republican Machine any day.  The machine is unwelcome to free thinkers with conviction.

[fieldafm]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

That's the thing, the crap that "every" aspiring politico does creates our failed legislative system.  It is time to break with this, which is what has the machine and the lobbyists so concerned with Fant.  He is not some mere striver who will sell out to the powers in Tallanasty (he has his own money). He actually has convictions and beliefs.  He has suffered for these and you may not share them, but someone who follows a principled path is worth something.

Predict more crass and increasingly lunatic behavior to come from the very well funded lobbyists...

The 'machine and lobbyists concerned with Fant'?
Hardly, he has hired some pretty entrenched political weazles to run his campaign. He bears little resemblence to the political maverick you are painting him as.

'He has suffered'?
Jay Fant has hardly suffered in life. He did run a ridiculously solid bank into the ground, and taxpayers suffered as a consequence. So yes, there is some 'suffering' in his life, but he does not bear the brunt of that suffering.

Do 'principled paths' lead down a road of lieing on camera?

[Sentient]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

That's the thing, the crap that "every" aspiring politico does creates our failed legislative system.  It is time to break with this, which is what has the machine and the lobbyists so concerned with Fant.  He is not some mere striver who will sell out to the powers in Tallanasty (he has his own money). He actually has convictions and beliefs.  He has suffered for these and you may not share them, but someone who follows a principled path is worth something.

Predict more crass and increasingly lunatic behavior to come from the very well funded lobbyists...

The 'machine and lobbyists concerned with Fant'?
Hardly, he has hired some pretty entrenched political weazles to run his campaign. He bears little resemblence to the political maverick you are painting him as.

'He has suffered'?
Jay Fant has hardly suffered in life. He did run a ridiculously solid bank into the ground, and taxpayers suffered as a consequence. So yes, there is some 'suffering' in his life, but he does not bear the brunt of that suffering.

Do 'principled paths' lead down a road of lieing on camera?

I'd call losing all of your equity suffering...   The rest of your post is kind of shrill. 

[Sentient]

This was an interesting read...   since we're getting all truthful and all that...  also interesting the FMA backed PAC is targeting two races, one in sarasota and one here...  Guess they see a guy who would vote for lower medical costs on the horizon.  Hint, that isn't Renner.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/08/05/florida-races-heat-up-fant-vs-renner-whos-telling-the-truth-in-hd-15-136684


Florida races heat up: Fant vs Renner, who's telling the truth in HD 15?
August 5, 2014 by Yolanda Armstrong 0 Comments

Every election cycle, it's the same. We get to the last month before the primaries, and the otherwise-boring political season of predictable slogans and policy proposals melts into a fiery inferno of traded barbs.

Like heat-sensing missiles, mail pieces and media fill the air, delivering blows and, ultimately, what most people hope for: the knockout.

It's always interesting to see who fires first, how the opponents respond, and how the one who fired first tries to deny responsibility. It has become a farce.

Consider what happened in Florida House District 15 last week.

Fant Brenner 1Republican candidates Jay Fant and Paul Renner are vying to replace term-limited Rep. Daniel Davis in the Jacksonville-area district.

In June, Fant challenged Renner to sign a clean-campaign pledge. Renner responded within a day or two, and they worked out the terms for what seemed like a good compact.

Well, here we are with three weeks to go, and all hell has broken loose. At the end of last week, the Better Florida Fund Corp. delivered a karate-chop mailer, criticizing Fant for the way he handled his family banking business during the recession. Every community bank in Florida had difficulty during the recession, so no big deal, right?

Not the way the Better Florida Fund sold it, using the most lurid vocabulary to try to make Fant out to be nothing short of Bernie Madoff.

Disappointing tactics, but that's the way the cards are played.

But then the fun began. Fant issued a strongly-worded statement accusing Renner of breaking his pledge to run a clean campaign. Renner insisted the mailer was the work of  the Better Florida Fund, not him, and that Fant was breaking their pledge by accusing Renner of the assault.

Who's right? BizPac Review did some digging.

According to the Florida Times-Union, Renner hired gunslingers Marc Reichelderfer and Brian Hughes to run his campaign last year.

Reichelderfer has a good reputation as a capable consultant, despite a recent bump in the road as a star witness in the redistricting trial.

The Better Florida Fund is basically a subsidiary political committee for the Florida Medical Association — the association  is the only donor, and its president is the registered agent — and the doctor group did endorse Renner.

But unless you checked the lobbyist directory, you wouldn't know that Reichelderfer is also a paid lobbyist for the Florida Medical Association. BizPac Review's Tallahassee sources confirmed that for a long time, the medical association has taken much of its political direction from Reichelderfer.

BPR is no stranger to how these independent committees work, so we are quickly calling baloney on Renner's insistence that he was not involved in the Fant attack.

Surely, there will be retaliatory attacks on Renner, but at least for now, Fant has the high ground.

Renner's denials of involvement raise questions about his honor or intelligence.  He's either lying, or his campaign is being controlled solely by his consultants.

Neither scenario would sit well with conservatives.

Good luck on the response, Mr. Fant.

We will continue to watch this race and others around the state to help sort out the details.

[fieldafm]

I'd call losing all of your equity suffering

Reality called and they wanted you to know that Jay Fant is not 'suffering'. Losing all equity in the bank holding company was a situation he created himself, and he refused to face reality... chosing instead to stay loyal to his buddies instead of his fudiciary responsibility to the health and well being of the bank and its customers.

If that's the kind of politician he will be (being loyal to 'friends' instead of the general public), then God save us all.

[Sentient]

I'd call losing all of your equity suffering

Reality called and they wanted you to know that Jay Fant is not 'suffering'. Losing all equity in the bank holding company was a situation he created himself, and he refused to face reality... chosing instead to stay loyal to his buddies instead of his fudiciary responsibility to the health and well being of the bank and its customers.

If that's the kind of politician he will be (being loyal to 'friends' instead of the general public), then God save us all.

I think you meant "customers" not buddies...   Local businesses like Chamblin's...   too bad so many other FG customers defaulted on THEIR loans, you know the ones THEY took out and AGREED to pay back... 

Oh yeah - I guess Jay made up all the appraisals the bank lent on as well, covering those loans...   Your hind sight is quite remarkable.

[MEGATRON]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

That's the thing, the crap that "every" aspiring politico does creates our failed legislative system.  It is time to break with this, which is what has the machine and the lobbyists so concerned with Fant.  He is not some mere striver who will sell out to the powers in Tallanasty (he has his own money). He actually has convictions and beliefs.  He has suffered for these and you may not share them, but someone who follows a principled path is worth something.

LMAO.  How has Jay Fant suffered? 

Once upon a time, a person ran for elected office because people within the community valued that person's leadership skills and believed that the person could make a difference.  Individuals were asked and convinced to run for office.  Very few ran for elected office because they intended to make a career of being an elected official.

How has Jay Fant impacted our community?  What successes has he had in his business career that would lead me to believe that he will be successful at representing our interests in Tallahassee?  I ask those questions because I do not know.  What I see is a person who has failed miserably at business.  I also see a person who looks like he needs a job.  I'll pass on a state representative that is running for office because he needs a job.

[Sentient]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

That's the thing, the crap that "every" aspiring politico does creates our failed legislative system.  It is time to break with this, which is what has the machine and the lobbyists so concerned with Fant.  He is not some mere striver who will sell out to the powers in Tallanasty (he has his own money). He actually has convictions and beliefs.  He has suffered for these and you may not share them, but someone who follows a principled path is worth something.

LMAO.  How has Jay Fant suffered? 

Once upon a time, a person ran for elected office because people within the community valued that person's leadership skills and believed that the person could make a difference.  Individuals were asked and convinced to run for office.  Very few ran for elected office because they intended to make a career of being an elected official.

How has Jay Fant impacted our community?  What successes has he had in his business career that would lead me to believe that he will be successful at representing our interests in Tallahassee?  I ask those questions because I do not know.  What I see is a person who has failed miserably at business.  I also see a person who looks like he needs a job.  I'll pass on a state representative that is running for office because he needs a job.

You guy need to get your story straight - has Jay not "suffered" and is living on easy street down by the river, or does he need the $30k a year position to make payments on that river house?  Which is it?

[funguy]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

I don't much care for Renner but I certainly see him as the lesser of two evils...

[MEGATRON]

never really got the whole 'stealing signs' thing. 

But literally every campaign does it.  The volunteers and supporters get pretty passionate about it.

That's the thing, the crap that "every" aspiring politico does creates our failed legislative system.  It is time to break with this, which is what has the machine and the lobbyists so concerned with Fant.  He is not some mere striver who will sell out to the powers in Tallanasty (he has his own money). He actually has convictions and beliefs.  He has suffered for these and you may not share them, but someone who follows a principled path is worth something.

LMAO.  How has Jay Fant suffered? 

Once upon a time, a person ran for elected office because people within the community valued that person's leadership skills and believed that the person could make a difference.  Individuals were asked and convinced to run for office.  Very few ran for elected office because they intended to make a career of being an elected official.

How has Jay Fant impacted our community?  What successes has he had in his business career that would lead me to believe that he will be successful at representing our interests in Tallahassee?  I ask those questions because I do not know.  What I see is a person who has failed miserably at business.  I also see a person who looks like he needs a job.  I'll pass on a state representative that is running for office because he needs a job.

You guy need to get your story straight - has Jay not "suffered" and is living on easy street down by the river, or does he need the $30k a year position to make payments on that river house?  Which is it?

I don't know, which one is it?

[fieldafm]

I think you meant "customers" not buddies

There are these pesky things called fair lending laws in the banking world. Apparently, we all have to live by them.

It doesn't take a genius to have found irregulatories throughout the bank's balance sheet. This isn't speculation or hindsight. These very real concerns were cited by an organization that goes by the initials 'FDIC' for many, many years. 

   

[CutterJ]

If Jay Fant did "allegedly" lose all his equity in the FGB failure where did he come up with the $138,000 of his own money he initially funded his campaign with?

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/12/24/high-profile-house-races-teed-up-for.html

If my business failed and I lost all my equity I would be hard pressed to come up with $138,000 to fund a campaign. I am also interested to learn what Mr. Fant has been doing since the bank failed that now prepare him to be a competent legislator in Tallahassee?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Fans of Daily's Ice Cream?

Because Jacksonville.

[AuditoreEnterprise]

If Jay Fant did "allegedly" lose all his equity in the FGB failure where did he come up with the $138,000 of his own money he initially funded his campaign with?

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/12/24/high-profile-house-races-teed-up-for.html

If my business failed and I lost all my equity I would be hard pressed to come up with $138,000 to fund a campaign. I am also interested to learn what Mr. Fant has been doing since the bank failed that now prepare him to be a competent legislator in Tallahassee?

+1 I hope to see some explanation from him in the future if it is ever brought up at a debate or article. I doubt he will want to entertain the topic though.