Carmine's 2: Moon Dog Pie House

[edjax]

^^ the bashing of Jax for some on here I believe has become their full time job.  Makes you wonder why they remain living here.

Yaaaaawn....  as predicted...

"wait for it....  queue "well if you don't like Jax you can leave" psost....   there it is, right on schedule."

It would be nice if some of the hero's read the posts before commenting.

Meh. Maybe you should read some posts on the many threads here newbie. And I did note some and not speaking in generalizations.   In addition I didn't suggest anyone get on the Delta flight out of town. I just posed the question that some seem so unhappy about pretty much anything Jax and wondered why they may continue to live here. Personally I would not continue to live some place if it truly made me so unhappy. 

[bill]

When are we going to have a restaurant owner who is actually into growing aneighborhood long lived place to eat...all theses boys want to to is get it..make as much cheap food as they can and then sell out...our neighborhood deserve better...I wasnt impressed with ither carmines or the burrito place..ive has several conversations with bobby and thats his deal...get in..cheap as you can and get out...im done with that...you guys must understand we want good food...better than we can make at home..carmines and lolas are great example  of cheap food with some decor...we want better

People may say they want better, but the cheap stuff wins the day here in Jax.  There is just not enough $$$ for people to pay for better, and here "better" is really just "Pretty Good Not Great But Costs As Much As Great Elsewhere" (see Biscotti's, Orsay, BS, 13G etc.).  Look at the places that are busy - like a Brick, Rain Dogs, Garage, Loft etc.  Low $$ places.

The only one that seems to have better quality and better environment that is doing really well is Hawker's, which I put down to the $8 and under price point of the menu.  So it can get a lot of action but each person does not have to $$ a lot.

Jax is a $4 beer town at heart.

Your opinion of Hawkers shows your epicurean elitism is very weak.

[mtraininjax]

Look at the places that are busy - like a Brick, Rain Dogs, Garage, Loft etc.  Low $$ places.

Let's look at those places, shall we? Brick is a nice place, been open now for almost 11 years. Do they have 200 beers on tap (Sorry Steve Flores, had to go there, but you know I love Kickbacks), nope only 2, and have only had 2. Do they have a lot of change or turnover of the menu, nope, pretty much have a lot of the same stuff for the last 11 years. Can you order off the menu, yep, sure can, but this is a diner for the most part with nicely dressed staff and a nice quality of food product with staff who live in the neighborhood. The Brick has been a solid part of Avondale for the last 11 years and shows no signs of change.

Rain Dogs, the place fits 5 points, its dirty, smoky, and kinda trashy on the inside. They, to me, are trying to figure out what they want to be, Birdie's? Could be, but the RD is too small to compete. RD will never be a Brew, but then maybe it just wants to be an quirky Edge City that sells beer.

Garage/loft/Rogue - Has anyone seen Scott lately? He does not appear as the same guy who built these shops. Maybe now he has insurance on the properties, whereas he did not used to. So don't slip and fall and think that Eddie and Chuck Farah will get you "what you deserve". Nice places, clean for the most part, but these places get crammed with kids from the colleges for the cheap booze and low hassle. Dahlia's across the street is about the same, nice clean space, lots of games, but really a cheap pour house for kids in college.

Yet few college kids make it to the Alibi, Tradewinds or Murray's tavern. If they did, they could buy draft buds for less than a buck, they used to be 50 cents, but Bud sold out to Inbev, so someone had to pay. Maybe Murray Hill can be a new hangout for them, we shall see. Someone will have to take daddy's credit card if they plan to really want to grow.

[Sentient]

When are we going to have a restaurant owner who is actually into growing aneighborhood long lived place to eat...all theses boys want to to is get it..make as much cheap food as they can and then sell out...our neighborhood deserve better...I wasnt impressed with ither carmines or the burrito place..ive has several conversations with bobby and thats his deal...get in..cheap as you can and get out...im done with that...you guys must understand we want good food...better than we can make at home..carmines and lolas are great example  of cheap food with some decor...we want better

People may say they want better, but the cheap stuff wins the day here in Jax.  There is just not enough $$$ for people to pay for better, and here "better" is really just "Pretty Good Not Great But Costs As Much As Great Elsewhere" (see Biscotti's, Orsay, BS, 13G etc.).  Look at the places that are busy - like a Brick, Rain Dogs, Garage, Loft etc.  Low $$ places.

The only one that seems to have better quality and better environment that is doing really well is Hawker's, which I put down to the $8 and under price point of the menu.  So it can get a lot of action but each person does not have to $$ a lot.

Jax is a $4 beer town at heart.

Your opinion of Hawkers shows your epicurean elitism is very weak.

and what is my opinion of Hawker's Billy?