Folio's counter to EverBank and Shad Khan

Started by spuwho, July 28, 2014, 09:32:13 PM

tufsu1

Quote from: bill on July 29, 2014, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on July 29, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Quote from: Buforddawg on July 29, 2014, 06:12:33 PM
10.) Extend the Skyway. $40 million per mile?  Yeah, follow that yellow brick road.  Will it run on the weekends?  Will it be free or do we have to pay?  If we pay, will the turnstiles work?  Will there be a JTA person working the booth to make change or open the gate if it's broken?  Will homeless sit and ride it all day long to beat the heat?

Interesting....the video boards will get seen directly by about 800,000 people in 2014....meanwhile the Skyway will directly serve over 1 million riders in 2014....yet one is a good use of $40 million and the other is a waste.

1 mm seriously? get to 10k and then we can discuss

how about we discuss the 90,000 that rode during the 5-days of One Spark alone

Sigsbee LeGrande

Why even have this discussion? The scoreboards were paid for with some of Khan's money and BED TAX money. People who came to Jacksonville for vacations, business and conventions who pay 6 percent on top of the state sales tax on their hotel room charges covered this. Furthermore, under the law, the money from bed tax may not be used to fund, pensions, police and fire or libraries.

JeffreyS

I think people think it is about the signs because Folio said here is what we could do instead of the signs.

If they didn't want to poo poo the idea of the signs they might have said here are some things we could also do for that type of money, not tied those suggestions to the signs at all, not run the article the second everyones Facebook was full of posts excited about the signs, taken the angle that look we can do this level of project here are some more or at least not waited for the die to be cast to start their complaining.

NO just a lazy hack not intended to spark anything. No voice just a hit job.
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funwithteeth

Quote from: stephendare on July 30, 2014, 09:42:11 AM
The point of the discussion is that we seem to find funding sources for what we want, as a city.

And yet we aren't funding what we need.

Its not about the sign.  Im not sure why people keep thinking that the folio article is about that.
Stephen, of course the real issue is finding the funding, but Folio used the boards as bait, and that's why people keep returning to it. Folio even admits "the reality is more nuanced," so they instead chose to take a superficial gloss on what's really a complicated issue. Naturally, people on both sides of this argument are responding in kind.


RattlerGator

I can't help it, I love this guy.

And I was EXTREMELY disappointed by that Folio piece. Shortsighted in the extreme.

spuwho

There is something ironic in a magazine about an area's lifestyle and culture called "Void".

fsquid

Quote from: spuwho on July 31, 2014, 10:08:43 PM
There is something ironic in a magazine about an area's lifestyle and culture called "Void".

who cares, the girls who run it are hot.

copperfiend

That magazine cover could not be any better.

simms3

Between the Folio Weekly article, which a friend of mine posted to FB, and this brilliant piece in CL Atlanta, also posted to FB, the South is summed up:

http://clatl.com/atlanta/atlantas-not-a-world-class-city/Content?oid=11821628

Frankly, priorities are different for people in the south, and it works now for them and it shows.  Another person recently pointed out that many northerners who move to the south are actually already relatively conservative and live in the suburbs or purple/slightly red counties outside of the northern cities.  So while lots of northerners are moving, they are the more conservative of the bunch.  Many southerners that have happily moved out of the south to northern/CA cities are likely the more liberal of the bunch.

Anyway you look at it, obviously there were technicalities, but as Stephen pointed out, it's not about the technicalities, it's about the fact that we used any money at all to build these stupid scoreboards when we can never seem to find any money to do what's truly important (or at least what would likely be placed higher on the importance list elsewhere).

Also, FTR, look up Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara.  Those scoreboards are at least as large, so I'm not sure that Jax even has any "claims" on "world's largest scoreboards/videotrons", which is the most stupid record to hold.  So embarassing.  As if attendance will somehow skyrocket, even pulling in tourists to see this new world class example of technology.  Lol.
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tufsu1

Quote from: simms3 on August 01, 2014, 11:26:57 AM
Also, FTR, look up Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara.  Those scoreboards are at least as large, so I'm not sure that Jax even has any "claims" on "world's largest scoreboards/videotrons", which is the most stupid record to hold. 

sorry but no.  Levi's Stadium scoreboards are roughly 200' x 50'....Jax are roughly 360' x 60'

here's a good summary of video boards around the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_video_screens

Downtown Osprey

QuoteAlso, FTR, look up Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara.  Those scoreboards are at least as large, so I'm not sure that Jax even has any "claims" on "world's largest scoreboards/videotrons", which is the most stupid record to hold.  So embarassing.  As if attendance will somehow skyrocket, even pulling in tourists to see this new world class example of technology.  Lol.

Actually ticket sales are the best they've been in a long, long time.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Downtown Osprey on August 01, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
QuoteAlso, FTR, look up Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara.  Those scoreboards are at least as large, so I'm not sure that Jax even has any "claims" on "world's largest scoreboards/videotrons", which is the most stupid record to hold.  So embarassing.  As if attendance will somehow skyrocket, even pulling in tourists to see this new world class example of technology.  Lol.

Actually ticket sales are the best they've been in a long, long time.

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funwithteeth

Quote from: spuwho on July 31, 2014, 10:08:43 PM
There is something ironic in a magazine about an area's lifestyle and culture called "Void".
It really did not occur to me until yesterday what a terrible name it is for that kind of publication.

Tacachale

Quote from: funwithteeth on August 01, 2014, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: spuwho on July 31, 2014, 10:08:43 PM
There is something ironic in a magazine about an area's lifestyle and culture called "Void".
It really did not occur to me until yesterday what a terrible name it is for that kind of publication.

It's intentional; there's a "void" in the lifestyle magazine scene that only these self-aware young trendsetters can fill.
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