John Wells: "Main Street Cruise no more...city demands permits."

[sheclown]

John Wells‎Historic Springfield Main Street Cruise

Folks, I am sorry to say that I'm done!!! We have some very generous sponsors who have put money up to pay for the band and other things that we need. I don't feel that I can spend those people's money and then have the CITY come and shut it down. SO, I am pulling the plug on EVERYTHING!! THERE WILL BE NO BAND AT THE KRYSTAL!! If you want to come and watch the GREAT RACE please do but the HISTORIC SPRINGFIELD MAIN STREET CRUISE is no more!!!

The City is shutting it down because they say we need a SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. There is no way to do that because we have no way of providing insurance or workman's comp or any of their other requirements. In 2 years we have not asked them for ONE DIME, but they are not happy with that. The CITY spends huge amounts of our tax money to get people downtown and we did it for free and they want to stop it.

MAKES YOU VERY PROUD TO LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE!!

We'll be looking for a place to hold the Cruise from now on. SCREW THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE!!!

[sheclown]

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-jun-cruise-whatcha-got-main-street-cruise#.U5jN2ShYyQI

http://www.youtube.com/v/_1Yjg51ffUY?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0


http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-jul-springfields-main-street-cruise-this-weekend#.U5jOdShYyQI

[sheclown]

Okay, boys and girls...do what you do....

Yarborough, Clay; Bishop, Bill; Clark, Richard; Redman, Don; Boyer, Lori; Schellenberg, Matthew; Gaffney, Johnny; Lee, Denise; Jones, Warren; Brown, Reggie; Holt, Ray; Carter, Doyle; Gulliford, William; Love, James; Daniels, Kimberly; Crescimbeni, John; Joost, Stephen; Anderson, Greg; Lumb, Robin

Let them know.

Save the Cruise!  Ask the city to pay for the compliance they are demanding.

[AuditoreEnterprise]

Okay, boys and girls...do what you do....

Yarborough, Clay; Bishop, Bill; Clark, Richard; Redman, Don; Boyer, Lori; Schellenberg, Matthew; Gaffney, Johnny; Lee, Denise; Jones, Warren; Brown, Reggie; Holt, Ray; Carter, Doyle; Gulliford, William; Love, James; Daniels, Kimberly; Crescimbeni, John; Joost, Stephen; Anderson, Greg; Lumb, Robin

Let them know.

Save the Cruise!  Ask the city to pay for the compliance they are demanding.

If there are less than 500 people they don't need a permit i believe. If they do I am not so sure they need to have WC anyway as they aren't hiring anyone. I may be wrong because I usually use my employees for events so i pay it anyway. On a side note a few sponsors willing to co-host the event with businesses already paying into WC may be a good answer. I pay into and with a few organisations you may be able to have some sort of blanket coverage . I will help however I can just let me know.

[Bill Hoff]

I believe the issue is related to setting up a stage for live music. Not the cruise itself.

[AuditoreEnterprise]

I believe the issue is related to setting up a stage for live music. Not the cruise itself.

I can see where there may be an issue then if that is the case.

[Jtetlak]

I'm sure there's a way to keep this going. I'd agree that the issue is probably less about the cruise and more about the stage/noise. Let me know what I can do. Give me some more details on what the city is saying you need and why, and I'll make a few calls. Email me directly, jason@tetlak.com

[AuditoreEnterprise]

I don't think that the city has the right to permit anything on the state and federal highway.  At least this is the story that they give whenever you ask to actually close main street for a parade or event.

How are they possibly asking for permit fees for a roadway that they do not own?

I agree... Got to keep it fair both ways right. I don't think the city will see it the same though seeing how they may be able to profit from something.

[IrvAdams]

I'm sure this can be worked out. The city will be drowning in ugly "what-the-hell?" letters from the thousands who always come to see this event if they drain the life out of it. There must be a quick solution that can be reached amicably.

A week without a water taxi is one thing, but this has a huge and long-term potential, and it's organic.

City: fix it, please.

[mtraininjax]

From simple common sense to no sense, but HEY, I'm With Alvin!

[02roadking]

From the Facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/events/296420243765246/667511223322811/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

I've been asked to explain what has happened:
The city has several stages that they rent out. The only problem is that it's a nightmare trying to get one for the average person. The biggest problem is that when you place the application and post the insurance they won't give you an answer if you are lacking anything. Last year when we rented the stage for the BIG ENGINE show, we were right up to the last day trying to find out if they were going to let us have the stage. Others who have rented these stages have told the same story. One told me they laid some new crap on her 3 hours before the stage was supposed to be delivered and she was jumping through her butt trying to satisfy them. There continue to be new requirements ALL the time.
You can't put on a show like this. How can you plan anything if you don't know if you have a stage?
This year I was not going to let this happen again. I started out well in advance and reserved one of the stages and filed the application and was told that it was reserved for us. The Krystal Company sent them an insurance certificate for a 25 million dollar liability policy. In the weeks since then I have repeatedly called Ron Bruton (255-8765) to find out if there was anything else they needed and if we were approved for the stage. The answer I got EVERY time was, don't know, don't know, don't know!!!! On this past Monday I got the same answer. I was very frustrated and told him that I would not wait until the LAST DAY to find out if I had the stage or not. He interpreted that as me cancelling the reservation on the stage and gave it to someone else. My intent was to start calling "up the line" to see if I could find anyone who knew anything since Ron Bruton obviously did not. I talked to the assistant to the new head of Parks and Recreation and was told that I because I had cancelled my reservation our stage had already been given to someone else and it was irreversible. Mind you this was only one day. When I couldn't get anywhere with her I went to the Mayor's office and got nothing but a bunch of "deer in the headlights" BS.
Later that afternoon I got a call and began getting emails from Laurie Mills in the SPECIAL EVENTS office telling me that we needed a SPECIAL EVENTS permit for not just the band but for the entire Cruise from now on. If you have more than 500 people they want this permit. I tried to explain to her that this is a spread out thing and there are never 500 people in one location. She didn't want to hear this. She said that the city will shut it down and we could be fined.
The SPECIAL EVENT permit they are asking for is impossible for us to get. We don't charge anybody anything for the Cruise. The City wants us to provide General Liability Insurance, Workman's comp insurance, payment for police, and other things like portolets. We have no money for all of this!!! I don't know where they think all this money would come from. Several of the businesses have pitched in for this big cruise so that we could rent the stage and hire the band and so on, but this is one big show for the summer. I can't spend these peoples money and have the city shut it down.
I also tried to explain that the reason the cruise was expected to be big this month is that the GREAT RACE is coming through. They knew NOTHING about that. I told them to check with VISIT JACKSONVILLE since they were the ones who were promoting it.
When you talk to these people it's like talking to the wall.
The city spends millions ofdollars of YOUR tax money to bring people downtown for ONE event. We have brought people into the downtown area Every month for 2 years and not asked the the city for one dime.
As I said the other day, my friend Ken Hamilton has been right all along. If it ain't football or golf the city could care less. There is a huge motorsport community in this town, but they don't matter. FOOTBALL OR GOLF!! That's the ticket!!!
How much did the new mega TV screen at the stadium cost US!!!!
Let me also add that when you talk about "THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE", you are really talking about our elected officials. So, if you are not happy about the way all of this has come down, then go and vote and get rid of the dead wood!!!!!

[wordofmouse]

How much money $$$ do you need for the WC and other Event Permits? 
If its a doable amount, attempt to raise it and not walk away from smoke screens the city , state or federal government places in front of you.

[AuditoreEnterprise]

From the Facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/events/296420243765246/667511223322811/?notif_t=plan_mall_activity

I've been asked to explain what has happened:
The city has several stages that they rent out. The only problem is that it's a nightmare trying to get one for the average person. The biggest problem is that when you place the application and post the insurance they won't give you an answer if you are lacking anything. Last year when we rented the stage for the BIG ENGINE show, we were right up to the last day trying to find out if they were going to let us have the stage. Others who have rented these stages have told the same story. One told me they laid some new crap on her 3 hours before the stage was supposed to be delivered and she was jumping through her butt trying to satisfy them. There continue to be new requirements ALL the time.
You can't put on a show like this. How can you plan anything if you don't know if you have a stage?
This year I was not going to let this happen again. I started out well in advance and reserved one of the stages and filed the application and was told that it was reserved for us. The Krystal Company sent them an insurance certificate for a 25 million dollar liability policy. In the weeks since then I have repeatedly called Ron Bruton (255-8765) to find out if there was anything else they needed and if we were approved for the stage. The answer I got EVERY time was, don't know, don't know, don't know!!!! On this past Monday I got the same answer. I was very frustrated and told him that I would not wait until the LAST DAY to find out if I had the stage or not. He interpreted that as me cancelling the reservation on the stage and gave it to someone else. My intent was to start calling "up the line" to see if I could find anyone who knew anything since Ron Bruton obviously did not. I talked to the assistant to the new head of Parks and Recreation and was told that I because I had cancelled my reservation our stage had already been given to someone else and it was irreversible. Mind you this was only one day. When I couldn't get anywhere with her I went to the Mayor's office and got nothing but a bunch of "deer in the headlights" BS.
Later that afternoon I got a call and began getting emails from Laurie Mills in the SPECIAL EVENTS office telling me that we needed a SPECIAL EVENTS permit for not just the band but for the entire Cruise from now on. If you have more than 500 people they want this permit. I tried to explain to her that this is a spread out thing and there are never 500 people in one location. She didn't want to hear this. She said that the city will shut it down and we could be fined.
The SPECIAL EVENT permit they are asking for is impossible for us to get. We don't charge anybody anything for the Cruise. The City wants us to provide General Liability Insurance, Workman's comp insurance, payment for police, and other things like portolets. We have no money for all of this!!! I don't know where they think all this money would come from. Several of the businesses have pitched in for this big cruise so that we could rent the stage and hire the band and so on, but this is one big show for the summer. I can't spend these peoples money and have the city shut it down.
I also tried to explain that the reason the cruise was expected to be big this month is that the GREAT RACE is coming through. They knew NOTHING about that. I told them to check with VISIT JACKSONVILLE since they were the ones who were promoting it.
When you talk to these people it's like talking to the wall.
The city spends millions ofdollars of YOUR tax money to bring people downtown for ONE event. We have brought people into the downtown area Every month for 2 years and not asked the the city for one dime.
As I said the other day, my friend Ken Hamilton has been right all along. If it ain't football or golf the city could care less. There is a huge motorsport community in this town, but they don't matter. FOOTBALL OR GOLF!! That's the ticket!!!
How much did the new mega TV screen at the stadium cost US!!!!
Let me also add that when you talk about "THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE", you are really talking about our elected officials. So, if you are not happy about the way all of this has come down, then go and vote and get rid of the dead wood!!!!!

Then let's lead by example and give the people the event they want and not take it away from them. Walking away shows them you are no better than they are. We can find a way to make it happen all you gotta do is reach out here and ask. There's incomes here.

[Intuition Ale Works]

It can be very challenging to work with the city but it usually works out in the end.

Having said that, we apply for our special event permits as far in advance as we can.

For example, we are applying now for our anniversary party in November.