The Jacksonville Jaguars

[I-10east]

^^ Eh, in late October & November the weather is usually fine. The enclosed stadium proposal is more of a concern during September Jag games moreso than anything else.

[pierre]

A bigger concern of mine is that we may lose the game to Atlanta... We almost lost it during the last bid and with the Falcons building a new "fancy retractable roof"  stadium I could see the SEC moving the game if Atlanta out bids us...

I don't know. I still have a hard time believing it will move. Atlanta has set itself up nicely to get a Super Bowl and to be one of the main hosts for the college football playoff though.

[Tacachale]

A bigger concern of mine is that we may lose the game to Atlanta... We almost lost it during the last bid and with the Falcons building a new "fancy retractable roof"  stadium I could see the SEC moving the game if Atlanta out bids us...

I don't know. I still have a hard time believing it will move. Atlanta has set itself up nicely to get a Super Bowl and to be one of the main hosts for the college football playoff though.

Probably a discussion for a different thread, but Atlanta hasn't ever been a serious threat to taking the game every year. Even with more money Florida has no incentive to go for that. Additionally, the Georgia Dome is much smaller than the 'Bank and the new Keeping Up With The Joneses Dome will be as well. No matter how nice the new digs are, it won't be enough to make Florida want to play every year in Atlanta (EverBank is already much better than either team's home stadium, so "niceness" is kind of a moot point anyway).

However, Atlanta has periodically been discussed as taking a game every fourth year. This could be in conjunction with home games in Gainesville and Athens in two other years and Jacksonville for only one in four years. This possibility was widely discussed by Georgia officials during the last contract negotiation. At that time, Georgia confirmed its commitment to a neutral game in Jacksonville with a symbolic 6-year contract, instead of the usual 4-year contract. But once that's up in 2016, Jacksonville is definitely vulnerable to losing one of our signature events.

Another threat will be Orlando once the new Citrus Bowl is ready. They repeatedly tried to snake the game from us before EverBank was built. After they've spent all that money, they'll be looking for more events, and Florida-Georgia will certainly be one of them.

[FSBA]

I think Orlando has its eyes on becoming the home of a revived UF-Miami series more so than the Cocktail Party.

As for UGa, they'll bitch and moan every time the contract is up for renewal in order to get more concessions from the city but they would never seriously consider the move.

[Tacachale]

^Orlando has already tried to take FL-GA, and unlike FL-UM, it's a game that's guaranteed to be played every year (a regular Gators-Canes game, let alone an annual game, gets less and less likely every year, and there's no way Florida would give up a second home game). What's to stop from trying again once they have competitive stadium?

And people who've been involved in the contracts over the years confirm that there are very vocal elements at UGA (not so much at UF anymore) who do indeed seriously want the game moved. That will increase if they start getting bids from cities wanting more events in their expensive new stadiums.

[bill]

Agreed but you are referring to bleachers. They took out chair back seats so that is what they will have to replace.

Christ man!  You should worry more about the money spent in this city that doesn't generate any revenue rather than stir up shit towards one of the few things that does bring back a ton of money during the WEEK+ that those fans are in town.

I know you probably won't believe another article, but....  Here ya' go anyhow

I am not going to do your searching. We are obligated to provide the seats to both teams. How much is it gonna cost to replace the ones the city removed? I do not want the game lost but we have given Ga a ready made excuse to bail out. Ugas AD has already said he was not "kept in the loop" as to how the seats were going to be replaced.   

[duvaldude08]

Ok maybe I missed something but from the beginning it was made clear and public that 7,000 seats were being removed, and replaced with temporary seating for the FL/GA game. If even I knew that, how does the UGA not know that? Im just jumping in but Im not really understanding the debates in regards to the seat.

[Tacachale]

Agreed but you are referring to bleachers. They took out chair back seats so that is what they will have to replace.

Christ man!  You should worry more about the money spent in this city that doesn't generate any revenue rather than stir up shit towards one of the few things that does bring back a ton of money during the WEEK+ that those fans are in town.

I know you probably won't believe another article, but....  Here ya' go anyhow

I am not going to do your searching. We are obligated to provide the seats to both teams. How much is it gonna cost to replace the ones the city removed? I do not want the game lost but we have given Ga a ready made excuse to bail out. Ugas AD has already said he was not "kept in the loop" as to how the seats were going to be replaced.

He may not have been in the loop on the specifics, but he was well aware that seats would be removed but that FL-GA capacity would remain the same. That information has been well publicized for a year now.

UGA-UF seating capacity won't change with upgrades to Jacksonville stadium
By Marc Weiszerpublished Thursday, June 20, 2013

The $63 million in planned stadium enhancements at the site of the Georgia-Florida football game in Jacksonville are not expected to impact the seating capacity in the annual rivalry, UGA athletic director Greg McGarity said Thursday, [June 20, 2013].

Gator Bowl president and CEO Rick Catlett spoke to McGarity Tuesday, the day before the Jacksonville Jaguars and the city of Jacksonville unveiled details of improvements planned for EverBank Field.

That included the removal of 7,000 seats in the north end zone to make way for the construction of a fan area, according to the Florida Times-Union.

"That was made very, very clear in our conversation," McGarity said. "The capacity would remain the same. There would be no reduction in seating capacity."

...

[Jaguars team president Mark] Lamping told [the Jaguars'] website that capacity for Florida-Georgia will remain the same while capacity for Jaguars game could drop by about 1,800.

...

"We'll have time to review what their plans are and hopefully provide some input," said McGarity, who said Georgia had not been "in the loop" on exact details on specific plans to keep the seating capacity intact.

From onlineathens.com

http://onlineathens.com/sports/college-sports/2013-06-20/uga-uf-seating-capacity-wont-change-upgrades-jacksonville-stadium

[bill]

Ok maybe I missed something but from the beginning it was made clear and public that 7,000 seats were being removed, and replaced with temporary seating for the FL/GA game. If even I knew that, how does the UGA not know that? Im just jumping in but Im not really understanding the debates in regards to the seat.

It is not their Job to know. They have a contract that provides 41,000 seats. None of this is up for debate.

The question is what is the cost? 

[Tacachale]

How much does it cost to do the south end seats now? At any rate I'm sure it will be mitigated by the people paying for those (or other) seats.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

It is not their Job to know. They have a contract that provides 41,000 seats. None of this is up for debate.

The question is what is the cost?

What in the hell are you talking about, "...41,000 seats...."?

Are you tired of trolling the political threads and figured you'd come be an ass in the sports thread?  Newsflash!  We're a bit more feisty and a helluva lot less tactful, so why don't we be blunt.

You're stirring up shit about the additional cost of a few thousand (perceived) seats that were removed to do the JAGUAR upgrades.  Well, both ADs were notified of the modifications.  Both ADs were assured that the capacity for their game would remain unchanged.  Both ADs were, from everything I've read, on board with it. 

So unless you're willing to do your own 'searching' to help make your case, as we have done for ours, I think you need to settle down a bit and pay your fucking $.99 to get your online TU subscription and peruse some boards that are more suited to your aimless panderings.

Thanks for playing. 

Come again.

[duvaldude08]

Ok maybe I missed something but from the beginning it was made clear and public that 7,000 seats were being removed, and replaced with temporary seating for the FL/GA game. If even I knew that, how does the UGA not know that? Im just jumping in but Im not really understanding the debates in regards to the seat.

It is not their Job to know. They have a contract that provides 41,000 seats. None of this is up for debate.

The question is what is the cost?

What in God's name are you talking about Bill??

[FSBA]

Once again from the story I posted on the last page

http://members.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-11-12/story/council-approves-63-million-upgrade-everbank-field

For instance, the city would have to install about 7,600 temporary seats in the fan zone to comply with seating requirements for the Florida-Georgia game. Based on current costs of temporary seating elsewhere in the stadium, the expense would be about $376,000, though the exact cost would hinge on putting it out for bids.

Just to reiterate, it'll cost approximately $376,000 to add temporary seating in the North endzone for the Florida-Georgia game.

[duvaldude08]

Once again from the story I posted on the last page

http://members.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-11-12/story/council-approves-63-million-upgrade-everbank-field

For instance, the city would have to install about 7,600 temporary seats in the fan zone to comply with seating requirements for the Florida-Georgia game. Based on current costs of temporary seating elsewhere in the stadium, the expense would be about $376,000, though the exact cost would hinge on putting it out for bids.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you

Just to reiterate, it'll cost approximately $376,000 to add temporary seating in the North endzone for the Florida-Georgia game.

[FSBA]

What's to stop from trying again once they have competitive stadium?

And people who've been involved in the contracts over the years confirm that there are very vocal elements at UGA (not so much at UF anymore) who do indeed seriously want the game moved. That will increase if they start getting bids from cities wanting more events in their expensive new stadiums.

Depends on how you define competitive. Sure the Citrus Bowl renovations will upgrade it from "trainwreck" to passable but that isn't earth shattering. The Citrus Bowl was in worse shape than the old Gator Bowl and the improvements being made aren't nearly as extensive as what Jacksonville did during 93-95.  Never mind the two subsequent renovations since.

Capacity will also be an issue. The Citrus Bowl's new capacity will be 65,000 with about 5,000 club seat. Let's be generous and say Orlando could install 10,000 temporary seats. They are still 9,000 seats behind what Everbank provides with half as many high $ club seats.

Same thing with the new Atlanta stadium. Officially with temporary seating capacity is 75,000 with 7,500 club seats. Well below what Everbank can offer.

I'm sure there is an element in Georgia's ranks that wants the game to move to Atlanta or on-campus. But those concerns are secondary to maximizing revenue for the university.