New Downtown Restaurant

Started by GatorShane, May 03, 2014, 11:56:53 AM

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Quote from: fieldafm on May 04, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
QuoteThe key will be for us to find ways to facilitate this growth and not methods to become obstacles to movements, uses and creativity that may not be considered traditional.

100% agree. COJ needs to be a facilitator, not a gatekeeper.

And don't allow a dictator to use the powers of numerous Governmental agencies to have you immediately removed for attempting a traditional creative experience that allowed for spontaneous growth through a tactical node of utilizing what everyone else sees as dead space.

rutabaga

Great news Super Food Trucks.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.  :) Every building occupied is taking the core a little closer down the road toward the old vibrancy we used to feel in the Jax core.  Food trucks are nice, but occupied buildings are critical for permanent core development.  ;)

AuditoreEnterprise

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Quote from: fieldafm on May 04, 2014, 09:10:57 AM
QuoteI would take the article with a grain of salt until it gets going because he is having some major issues so we shall see.

You would be incorrect by classifying the situation as having 'major issues'.

As having looked into the property, which I am pretty sure you have not... The city officials, which I am also sure you are not,  Have said the size grease traps needed for a restaurant would not fit in the basement of that building without a very substantial modification or placing it outside the structure. Even the city plumber labeled it as a "major issue" With a hefty price tag and extensive modifications. The super food guy has also pulled his deal once before due to the same issue. Also on the agenda is a new version of the code section used for plumbing. If the renovations are not done before the new codes are passed then they could potentially have to do it all over again. I fail to see how that is not a major issue.
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I'm not the one that made the attack so the same could be said about myself as it seems as you are saying I am not ;)
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Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2014, 11:13:45 PM
Quote from: AuditoreEnterprise on May 04, 2014, 11:12:15 PM
I'm not the one that made the attack so the same could be said about myself as it seems as you are saying I am not ;)

not at all!   Actually I havent been following the thread.  I read the site through the "recent posts' option, and was just responding to the comment about Field.  And no attack intended.  Sometimes tone can be very difficult to convey on a forum. :)

I completely agree with that statement Stephen lol I have noticed that several times. I would also like to extend the olive branch if what I said seemed like an insult to the field in general.

On a side note would the Metrojax people like to have the Monday meeting at my office location this week? I really would like to attend one just to meet some of the people running this with vested interests.
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Okay I can do bold bean. I just have a person I am helping with a business venture with me and I want her to tell you and lake the idea and get your opinions. I was just suggesting because I have a board room I can use. But just give me the time and I will be at bold bean in riverside
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Quote from: IrvAdams on May 04, 2014, 09:33:17 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 04, 2014, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: IrvAdams on May 04, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
^ Reasonable rents? Part of this poster's issue was that finished, modern apartments were a bit pricey for the young struggling artist types, etc.

Depends on what's considered reasonable? For me, reasonable is based on a balance of area comps and amount of money needed to obtain a CO. Given the area comps, I'm tentatively shooting for somewhere around $1/sf. That might be a little more than a struggling artist wants to pay but it's a new product. The poster may want to seek something that isn't new, modern. Something that a little rough around the edges that they can put some sweat equity into improving a bit to fit their tastes.

That rate sounds reasonable to me. It's what I get for our SS rentals, and they're not new.

The cheapest rents I've ever heard of were $0.93/sf in suburban Raleigh/Cary.  If struggling artists can make it in New York and San Francisco, there is no reason except "lack of demand" for not making it in Jacksonville.  $1/SF is kind of the bottom of the barrel of rents in this entire country.

Jax doesn't have that much interesting warehouse/loft space.  I'm actually surprised it isn't a bigger thing since there are creative types in the city and more of this kind of space than anywhere else in FL.  It's actually quite unique.  I know if I moved back it would be between putting that kind of sweat equity into a similar space, myself, or moving into the Peninsula, not that the two are comparable for most pricewise, but for me they would be.
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That was the original story on it. 

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