Zimmerman Found Not Guilty

[NotNow]

Of course, this has nothing to do with the arguments that I was making.  As a matter off fact, your tendency to place people and "causes" into racial terms just makes my point.  Interesting effort on your part though.   

[NotNow]

Of course, this has nothing to do with the arguments that I was making.  As a matter off fact, your tendency to place people and "causes" into racial terms just makes my point.  Interesting effort on your part though.

oh.  Taaffe is just misunderstood then?

His cause isnt 'racial', he was just 'placed' in that position by terminology??

I didn't address Taaffe.  You did. 

My argument states clearly that we should not prejudge people based on what we percieve to be their sex, race, age, etc., but rather their individual actions.   I also argued that people should not inject their political/social cause into these criminal cases in order to further their agenda.  It is not fair to the victim, the defendant, or the society as a whole as it dims the facts of the criminal case and justice.   

[NotNow]

Sooo, if you have a racist friend, then you should be considered a racist....right?


  Just teasing ya...

[NotNow]

I think that what we say, what we do, and who we associate with will always be used by others assessing our character.  Using such information to forward our own separate agenda, again, is wrong.  Don't you agree?  This can become a complex discussion...what arguments are allowed in court, what incidents in our past are admissible in court or even public discourse.   How much do those incidents reflect the man? 

My point remains.   We should leave our personal agendas out of these criminal cases.  Let's limit ourselves to the facts of the case.

[Jaxson]

Sooo, if you have a racist friend, then you should be considered a racist....right?


  Just teasing ya...

Well I think if you take their money, and let them speak for you on racial issues, then you are pretty much going to be tarred with the same brush.  Thats fair, don't you think?

"Your Racist Friend" by They Might Be Giants comes to mind.  LOL

[NotNow]

Sloppy law?  Once again, I will refer you to your friend Chris.  Ask him why this kind of thing is excluded from arguments in trial.  This practice is hardly "sloppy law", it is and has been the norm.   My arguments do not deny the "circumstances" of a crime (as that would be the actual physical scene and associated evidence), but rather "motive".  An argument for motive must be very concise.  The kind of stuff that you are espousing here doesn't belong in a courtroom, nor should it be shouted outside the courtroom.  Much of what we see on the nightly news is designed to draw in viewers, and is not intended for "fairness".  Just as the Zimmerman case evoked terms like  "white hispanic" that have no real meaning but are intended to support an outside agenda.

[TheCat]

Zimmerman attempts to raise funds by auctioning off his murder weapon...

George Zimmerman is selling off the gun he used to kill unarmed teen Trayvon Martin in an auction that he hopes will bring in at least $5,000.

"Prospective bidders, I am honored and humbled to announce the sale of an American Firearm Icon," Zimmerman wrote in the online description of the Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun.

"The firearm for sale is the firearm that was used to defend my life and end the brutal attack from Trayvon Martin on 2/26/2012," Zimmerman, 32, wrote. "Many have expressed interest in owning and displaying the firearm including The Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C. This is a piece of American History."

The weapon was recently returned in working order to Zimmerman by the Department of Justice, he said.

He celebrated that the gun was still operable, despite what he called "attempts by the Department of Justice on behalf of B. Hussein Obama to render the firearm inoperable."

The former volunteer neighborhood watchman fatally shot 17-year-old Martin after spotting the teen walking in a Florida gated community.

Zimmerman called 911 when he saw Martin, who was staying with his father, and ignored orders by the dispatcher to not approach the teen.

The pair got into a fight and Zimmerman shot the teen, who only had on him Skittles and Arizona watermelon fruit juice when he was killed. Zimmerman claimed self-defense, but Martin's parents have always insisted that Zimmerman initiated the fight.

Zimmerman was charged by a special prosecutor appointed by the governor, but was acquitted of murder and manslaughter in 2013.

Martin's death and Zimmerman's acquittal sparked rallies across the country and protests of law enforcement's treatment of the black community. The incident also called into question Florida's Stand Your Ground Law, which removes a person's duty to retreat before using force in self-defense.

Zimmerman wrote in the description of the gun on the auction page that a portion of the proceeds will be used to fight Black Lives Matter "violence against Law Enforcement officers."

Money from the sale will also go to "ensure the demise" of the career of the State Attorney who charged Zimmerman in Martin's death and to end "Hillary Clinton's anti-firearm rhetoric," he wrote.

Criticisms of his choice to profit off the weapon that led to a teenager's death fell on deaf ears, as Zimmerman told WOFL: "I'm a free American. I can do what I like with my possessions."

Bidding on the gun will begin at 11 a.m. Thursday and go for 24 hours on GunBroker.com, where Zimmerman included photos of officials holding the weapon during his trial.

"Now is your opportunity to own a piece of American History. Good Luck," he wrote.

Zimmerman signed the page with "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum," which is Latin for "If you want peace, prepare for war."

The Trayvon Martin Foundation said in a statement that the organization "is committed to its mission of ending senseless gun violence in the United States. This election season, we are laser focused on furthering that mission. As such, the foundation has no comment on the actions of that person."

http://www.news4jax.com/entertainment/george-zimmerman-auctioning-off-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin-this-is-a-piece-of-american

[TheCat]

At least he wants to get rid of Angela Corey.

[Bridges]

At least he wants to get rid of Angela Corey.

Well he should have registered as a republican candidate, cause Corey isn't losing the election since she rigged it. 

[spuwho]

While I think there was never any doubt, the Smithsonian tweeted the world to notify that in no uncertain terms did they ever have an interest or made any offers for his gun.

Just some pre-sales hype by Mr. Zimmerman.

[Adam White]

MIAMI (AP) — Bidding in an online auction for the pistol former neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin appeared to have been hijacked by fake accounts posting astronomically high bids.

At one point early Friday, the bidding surpassed $65 million with the leading bidder using the screen name "Racist McShootFace." The site later showed that account had been deleted.



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/million-dollar-bids-shown-gun-killed-trayvon-martin-083757943.html

[peestandingup]

Zimmerman attempts to raise funds by auctioning off his murder weapon...

I wasn't aware he was found guilty of murder. New development??

[Adam White]

Zimmerman attempts to raise funds by auctioning off his murder weapon...

I wasn't aware he was found guilty of murder. New development??

He wasn't.

But that doesn't mean he didn't murder Martin. It means the State wasn't able to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

[TheCat]

Zimmerman attempts to raise funds by auctioning off his murder weapon...

I wasn't aware he was found guilty of murder. New development??

You're right. He wasn't found guilty.

In other news, a knife that OJ once used to not-murder two people is also up for auction.

[I-10east]

Non story...