Naval museum for the Southbank?

[Noone]

Tonight at city council was a Public Hearing on 2013-408 the USS Charles F. Adams. Will be in Finance and RCD. Not in Waterways.

[Noone]

Support the USS Charles F. Adams

DIA Board meeting today at 5 pm 1St. Floor city hall.

[thelakelander]

What type of support do they need?  I thought them coming to Jax was completely contingent on them raising the funds to do so. Are they asking for public assistance now?

[Noone]

At the 11/20/13 DIA Board meeting a resolution of support was approved to bring the USS Charles F. Adams Downtown at the Shipyards location. What a positive project for Jacksonville.

A lot of other announcements at this meeting. Dec. 9 a Public forum on the Landing.
Today at 3 pm could be a final decision on Hemming Plaza this will be in the Ed Ball Building.
Everyone else get ready to stick your hand out. Project range will be from $10,000 - $250,000 a yet to be announced amount of capital that will be approved by council then all the underwriting will be in house by DIA.

So much more.

[MEGATRON]

At the 11/20/13 DIA Board meeting a resolution of support was approved to bring the USS Charles F. Adams Downtown at the Shipyards location. What a positive project for Jacksonville.

A lot of other announcements at this meeting. Dec. 9 a Public forum on the Landing.
Today at 3 pm could be a final decision on Hemming Plaza this will be in the Ed Ball Building.
Everyone else get ready to stick your hand out. Project range will be from $10,000 - $250,000 a yet to be announced amount of capital that will be approved by council then all the underwriting will be in house by DIA.

So much more.

I thought the ship would be located adjacent to the Acosta, not the Shipyards.

[tufsu1]

both locations have been discussed.  the concern with the Acosta is the ship sticking out too far into the river...if it needs to be moored horizontally to land, the Shipyards may be the only option

[thelakelander]

I figured at the Shipyards, it would be moored to an existing pier instead of land. Honestly, that saves them the cost of building a new pier as well.

[edjax]

An article on Daily Record says that to be on the southbank would have cost an additional $6M to build a pier to meet standards required by the Navy.

[thelakelander]

^That's probably the real reason why the site has been switched to the Shipyards.

[JayBird]

Proposed New Mooring Site
Currently JHNSA is working with the City Council to introduce new legislation to berth the ex-USS CHARLES F. ADAMS (DDG-2) on the North Bank of the St. Johns River at the north/south bulkhead, just south of East Bay Street across from the Maxwell House Coffee Plant. This is an area that was part of the former Jacksonville Shipyards. This site offers significant advantages and cost savings compared to the South Bank site supported by the 2008 City Council Ordinance. The newly proposed site would require the mounting of mooring devices on the concrete pad on the east side of the uplands (which would be along the port side of the ship), and that river sand be removed from the mooring position to enable this historic guided missile destroyer to be berthed alongside the bulkhead. Utilities would be run from East Bay Street directly underground to the stern area of the ship where they would be positioned to provide service to the ship and to a trailer-style rest room and shower facility located at the port quarter area of the ship on the concrete pad on the uplands. Black metal and galvanized fencing, already in place, would be augmented and night lighting would be provided.



http://www.adamsclassmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/JHNSA-Business-Financial-Plan-June-2013-Edit-_2_.pdf

[thelakelander]

^That wharf during the mid-20th century...

[Keith-N-Jax]

Now we just need to get the Shipyards developed.

[Noone]

I support the USS Adams coming to Downtown if it will pay for itself and not turn into a taxpayer subsidized decomissioned mothball sized aircraft money pit for the people of Jacksonville.

We are a Navy town.

We are a football town that is in a real scenario of losing an NFL franchise for one reason (ticket sales) 

The Navy is giving them the ship. The city is giving them a location to dock the ship.

At a recent Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting they were asked how much of the $5,000,000 required to make this happen have they raised. $100,000 was the figure thrown around. If anyone has an updated figure lets hear it. Don't get me wrong I hope they raise $10,000,000

Other concerns, Will the sedimentation patterns have any impact on the existing boat ramp?

The timing of the ord is key. Election cycle who is going to say NO to the Navy when running for political office.
Also there are a number of new appointments to Waterways and one of the first big pieces of legislation will be this benefit for Downtown. Who is going to vote NO for a waterway activity that will bring people to Downtown.

Who is building the new dock?

What is the exit strategy if it doesn't work. And the cost to have it removed if it comes to that.
Does anybody besides the taxpayers have any skin in the game?

Remember Shipyards. We gave them the money upfront and look what happened.
Remember the Equestrian Center in the BJP. That group was supposed to raise and have $5,000,000 too. How much of that has been returned to taxpayers?

The positives is the redo of the Friendship fountain area a lot of what is happening has come from the JCCI River Dance study and the report for Downtown Vision by Chan Kreiger and Associates. There will be an increase in overall activity but will it be enough for it to succeed financially on its own.

Remember Harbormasters?
Will we be saying remember the Adams?

In 3 days on 5/10/16 a full Jacksonville city council vote on 2016-305 the Shipyards Pier. Not before Waterways. Why not?

[acme54321]

Does Putnam county know about this?

[thelakelander]

what about the Baltimore guys?