Times Union Irrelevancy

[ChriswUfGator]

WmNussbaum, pick up a copy of jim baileys paper sometime, I was astonished but they've actually got real content now. I wound up reading one to kill time somewhere and I was impressed, then I picked up another one a month later because the headline grabbed my attention, and after reading that one I called and subscribed to it. They hired the editor the TU let go and have been picking up where the TU is leaving off. I know you're not gonna believe me until you actually read one, they used to be nothing but legal notices, but they changed and it's very much worth reading now.

[mtraininjax]

They hired the editor the TU let go and have been picking up where the TU is leaving off. I know you're not gonna believe me until you actually read one, they used to be nothing but legal notices, but they changed and it's very much worth reading now.

Denise Reagan left the Times Union to replace Anne Schindler who was the Folio editor and then left to go to the First Coast News room. I think Karen Brune Mathis is the one who left the TU and First Coast News to go and work with Jim.

I like Jim, and he is a smart man, he has to see the writing on the wall for newsprint, but as long as he is the only printed game in town for public notices, and the city wants to pay for them, its a stable business.

[mtraininjax]

In my opinion this is the single worst mistake that the times union has made in thirty years

Nah, to me, it was their purchase of the Jacksonville Journal, which gets like 6 lines in the Metro Section on Saturdays.  Should have let someone buy it who would have done more with it, or let it die for someone to take and make it a better local paper, much like what the Resident has become.

[icarus]

I have a lot of respect for Jim Bailey both as a man and as a businessman. And, I don't find myself correcting the grammar and spelling as much either when reading the Daily Record .  ;-)

[I-10east]

I have two questions concerning the people who sells the TU on the intersection medians and highway off ramps. Are these operations (selling papers on the street) commonplace in other cities? What's the percentage of the money (from the paper sellers) is going to the seller and the TU? I know that can't be a payroll with all of those sellers. Sorry if I sound clueless (which I am) with that last question.

[fieldafm]

Are these operations (selling papers on the street) commonplace in other cities?

Yes.  And they've been doing so for the past couple hundred years. 

[WmNussbaum]

Bailey's Financial News & Daily Record survives because it was able to corner the legal publication business. With all the foreclosure cases in the past 5+ years, that publication has to be minting money. Why the T-U never really went after that business has puzzled me for a real long time. There has been some move to reduce foreclosure expense by allowing for certain legal notices to be done on the internet. Needless to say the print media lobbied strongly against that.

Bailey has been a big supporter of the Jacksonville Bar Ass'n - natch. His support is much appreciated, but then he has a vested interest in keeping cozy with the JBA. Once a week a page or two are devoted to printing summaries of the things making the news 50 years ago; that is a real neat touch.

[I-10east]

Didn't know that Field. I get that the "Extra! Extra! read all about it!" kid on a busy NYC street in the Roaring 20's is nothing new, but these people specifically posted on medians for the automobiles; Like the pretty recent years in this city is what I was referring to. It seems like that progressed because of the internet digging into paper sells. 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Damn I-10, do you even 'Marketing-101'?

I'm just busting your chops. 

I've noticed the increase over the past few years myself, but I attribute it all to doing "whatever's necessary to make your product more accessible to the buyer".  If you're not selling enough from news-stands, kiosks and coin boxes then give a guy a % to sit in the median where your customers are. 

'Desperate times call for desperate measures', and all that jazz.... 

[I-10east]

^^^Well said.

[Cheshire Cat]

WmNussbaum, pick up a copy of jim baileys paper sometime, I was astonished but they've actually got real content now. I wound up reading one to kill time somewhere and I was impressed, then I picked up another one a month later because the headline grabbed my attention, and after reading that one I called and subscribed to it. They hired the editor the TU let go and have been picking up where the TU is leaving off. I know you're not gonna believe me until you actually read one, they used to be nothing but legal notices, but they changed and it's very much worth reading now.

The Daily Record has definitely kicked it up a notch or two.  They are serving up well written articles and excellent content.  Well worth the read.    They have always kept it classy imo.

[Noone]

^+1 And for me the TU still captures me with their slogan "Every Issue is worth getting into". A lot of my neighbors still get the print media delivered.
I can only imagine an archived history of this city with the print media going back a 150 years.
And the Daily Record is 100?
That's one of the things I love about MJ is the history that you research.

[ChriswUfGator]

They hired the editor the TU let go and have been picking up where the TU is leaving off. I know you're not gonna believe me until you actually read one, they used to be nothing but legal notices, but they changed and it's very much worth reading now.

Denise Reagan left the Times Union to replace Anne Schindler who was the Folio editor and then left to go to the First Coast News room. I think Karen Brune Mathis is the one who left the TU and First Coast News to go and work with Jim.

I like Jim, and he is a smart man, he has to see the writing on the wall for newsprint, but as long as he is the only printed game in town for public notices, and the city wants to pay for them, its a stable business.

I was talking about Marilyn Young, she went directly from the TU to the daily record.

[thelakelander]

Didn't know that Field. I get that the "Extra! Extra! read all about it!" kid on a busy NYC street in the Roaring 20's is nothing new, but these people specifically posted on medians for the automobiles; Like the pretty recent years in this city is what I was referring to. It seems like that progressed because of the internet digging into paper sells. 

I didn't grow up in Jax but as far as I can remember, people have always been selling newspapers at busy intersection medians.  I've purchased quite a few papers from various street corners in several cities over the years.

[KenFSU]

Just about done with the Times-Union's website.

I'm all for the TU having paid content, but when it's so poorly differentiated from the regular content that every other link that I click redirects me to a subscription sign-up page, forget about it.