City Does not Know how it will fund its share of $63 million for Everbank

Started by Cheshire Cat, June 20, 2013, 01:45:44 PM

Cheshire Cat

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 14, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
I've taken the liberty of summing up everything that you just said into one cliched statement for the tl;dr crowd...

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on October 14, 2013, 06:27:36 PM
Winning cures all!

Hope you don't mind.  ;)
Naw, I don't mind.  I think if the Jags were a winning team the discussion might be a tad different. lol
Diane Melendez
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Cheshire Cat

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avonjax

Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on October 14, 2013, 05:34:26 PM
while i make no apologies for my snark and contempt, i wouldn't mind the jaguars beïng here, except that all i've seen from them is a lot ov traffic disruption.  i've seen no good come from them.

oh wait, i thought we were talking about FBC.  oh well, the same thing applies to the jaguars.

I'm having a very hard time reading your posts. Why do you dislike having a pro football team? Traffic? That's pretty lame if you ask me.


avonjax

I haven't read every post but I'm bored with all the closing libraries and so on with relation to the Jumbotrons. WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THEM WITH OUR TAX MONEY. People who VISIT Jacksonville are. I say install them now. I think it is great we have a pro football team. People who don't like them need to get over it.

Rynjny

Quote from: avonjax on October 14, 2013, 10:01:36 PM
I haven't read every post but I'm bored with all the closing libraries and so on with relation to the Jumbotrons. WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THEM WITH OUR TAX MONEY. People who VISIT Jacksonville are. I say install them now. I think it is great we have a pro football team. People who don't like them need to get over it.

+1000 

it's just some people in this city are too stupid to realize that.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

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Noone

Quote from: Noone on October 10, 2013, 11:23:24 AM
So where is the bed tax revenue and distribution since Super Bowl XXXIX being reported.

2013-669 is the active piece of legislation that will now be in committees and at the DIA Redevelopment workshop and the 10/9/13 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting it was shared that SHIPYARDS III should not be a part of this taxpayer(land) give away.

Does anyone have a clue about the new Waterway signage in our new highly restricted DIA zone? We are so LOST.

So where is the bed tax revenue and distribution being reported? Does anyone know? It's in committee. We don't have a clue where it went before but put us down for $43,000,000 right now going forward.


KuroiKetsunoHana

i usually have the sense to stay out ov the politics forum.  i need to remember to keep doïng so.  i'd never even heard ov the Weavers, so obviously i'm underinformed on several fronts here.  i'm not sure, though, why somöne latched onto my spelling ov 'ov' as my most defining feature, especially after i rolled with it and let it be a joke.  a bit ov your own unjustified feeling ov superiority there?
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duvaldude08

Quote from: avonjax on October 14, 2013, 10:01:36 PM
I haven't read every post but I'm bored with all the closing libraries and so on with relation to the Jumbotrons. WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THEM WITH OUR TAX MONEY. People who VISIT Jacksonville are. I say install them now. I think it is great we have a pro football team. People who don't like them need to get over it.

Agreed. Thats why Ive stayed away from this topic. We can talk until our face is blue and people will still say we are paying for this with their tax money from the city's general fund. I dont understand whats so confusing. Bed taxes and so on were set up soley for this reason. You cant use bed tax money to keep a library open.
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thelakelander

I think the bigger question would be if that's the best use of bed tax money.  Other than the convention center, what else can bed tax money be used for?
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Tacachale

Currently, the bed tax money can only be used for things in the stadium district. It can't be used for the convention center either.
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thelakelander

Based off what? That sounds like a condition that could be modified easily.
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icarus

Under Chapter 764, the City of Jacksonville passed a 2% bed tax on all transient lodging, i.e. hotels . Ironically, the tax is titled the 'Convention Development Tax.'

Under Sec. 111.136 of the municipal code, the City set-up a special account titled the Sports Complex Capital Maintenance Enterprise Fund. In significant part, subsection 'e' of the same code provision states this .. "Effective October 1, 2010, the two percent convention development tax funds imposed and collected in accordance with Chapter 764, Ordinance Code, shall be deposited into the Sports Complex Capital Maintenance Enterprise Fund, to be used exclusively to construct, extend, enlarge, remodel, repair, improve, or maintain said Sports Complex."

It could be modified but would require affirmative action on the part of the City Council and would assume that we haven't bonded out any of the revenue accruing to that account.

thelakelander

So we've taken a countywide tax on tourism and limited it to a small area east of downtown? What's the official boundaries of the sports complex?
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Cheshire Cat

Quote from: icarus on October 15, 2013, 12:40:33 PM
Under Chapter 764, the City of Jacksonville passed a 2% bed tax on all transient lodging, i.e. hotels . Ironically, the tax is titled the 'Convention Development Tax.'

Under Sec. 111.136 of the municipal code, the City set-up a special account titled the Sports Complex Capital Maintenance Enterprise Fund. In significant part, subsection 'e' of the same code provision states this .. "Effective October 1, 2010, the two percent convention development tax funds imposed and collected in accordance with Chapter 764, Ordinance Code, shall be deposited into the Sports Complex Capital Maintenance Enterprise Fund, to be used exclusively to construct, extend, enlarge, remodel, repair, improve, or maintain said Sports Complex."

It could be modified but would require affirmative action on the part of the City Council and would assume that we haven't bonded out any of the revenue accruing to that account.
Thanks for taking the time to look this up and post.  I admit to being too lazy to do so yesterday.  This shows what I remembered about the bed tax and the stadium.  I didn't remember the amount though.  Seeing as it is 2% for the stadium, I wonder how much more those in city hall think it is fair to tack on for a jumbo tron?  Love that it was called the Convention Development Tax.  Talk about bait and change.   
Diane Melendez
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