Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise

[blizz01]

Quote from: blizz01 on Today at 12:45:47 AM
Cowford United

It was never called cowford.

Ah, semantics.  Regardless of the moniker, a quick Google search returns enough tick & tie to Jacksonville to suggest that the association is more than warranted.  I suppose they could board up Cowford Traders, cancel the annual Cowford Ball, & remove the historical marker as well.  It was never called Bold City, First Coast, or Duvaaal....

That said, Cowford United probably isn't my first choice either.

[CityLife]

Jacksonville Admirals
- need to have Jacksonville in the name. Not First Coast, not Florida, Jacksonville. We need to promote Jacksonville.
- Admirals honors our Naval/military presence as well as our navigatible waters  in and around Jacksonville. It would be better to be called the Admirals if our stadium is on the river.

That was the name I wanted for the Jaguars, that or the Commanders.

I kind of like Commanders. There's a bit of a double meaning there, as teams try to command the tempo and possession. Sometimes you'll even hear commentators say, "Team B is really keeping command of possession".      Also a dominant center midfielder (QB in soccer) is sometimes called a boss or is said to be "bossing" a game.

[BrooklynSouth]

I have heard Jacksonville Inferno as a possibility.

I like Jacksonville Bold City FC

Inferno? Like the Great Fire? Maybe not our city's strongest moment.

Don't anyone take this the wrong way, but "The Jacksonville Crackers" would have local history and have a good mascot. Putting aside the recent Trayvon Martin "cracker" as an insult discussions, the crackers were actually north Florida's rough, tough cowboys and lumberjacks that settled this land. We could have a cowboy ride around the stadium on horseback to get people fired up. Jacksonville was a bit like the wild west in the early days, with cowboys and saloons full of prostitutes. It would be a fun theme to play with.

[CityLife]

IF there are any long term MLS aspirations, Inferno shouldn't be considered. Chicago's team is called Chicago Fire.

[fieldafm]

I actually like the name 'Admirals'.

I also really can't believe I have cared this much about soccer for the past year as I have.  Put deposits down for season tickets last week.  I have never been a soccer fan, but this is exciting.   

[danno]

Would like to see a tie in with the river.

Rivermen
Boatmen
Pilots

[copperfiend]

IF there are any long term MLS aspirations, Inferno shouldn't be considered. Chicago's team is called Chicago Fire.

I agree. But it has been talked about as a possibility.

I also agree with alot of what people are saying.

The name should have Jacksonville in it. And from everything I have heard, it will.

The name should not be something like Jacksonville City, Real Jacksonville or Jacksonville United.

I do like the idea of something related to the Navy or water.

[KenFSU]

I really like the Admirals suggestion.

Classy, and location-appropriate.

[CityLife]

What about the Jacksonville Heroes? Also celebrates our military heritage, but is a little catchier.

New Jersey has a league of some sort for military, police, first responders, firemen called US Soccer Heroes.
http://www.ussoccerheroes.com/

[BrooklynSouth]

I have heard Jacksonville Inferno as a possibility.

I like Jacksonville Bold City FC

Inferno? Like the Great Fire? Maybe not our city's strongest moment.

Don't anyone take this the wrong way, but "The Jacksonville Crackers" would have local history and have a good mascot. Putting aside the recent Trayvon Martin "cracker" as an insult discussions, the crackers were actually north Florida's rough, tough cowboys and lumberjacks that settled this land. We could have a cowboy ride around the stadium on horseback to get people fired up. Jacksonville was a bit like the wild west in the early days, with cowboys and saloons full of prostitutes. It would be a fun theme to play with.

"Crackers" were actually poor whites who werent debased enough to be called "white trash", and its a georgia term. [...] The Americans who settled this area were mostly interested in shipping and trade, and thats really been our dominant theme.

OK, I'm conflating some Florida history. The "Old Cracker Cattle Trail" was mainly about central and south Florida and we have our "Cowford" myth. I read this book a few years ago from an author who is trying to bring the Florida cowboy theme to popularity: http://www.amazon.com/Riders-Suwannee-Cracker-Western-ebook/dp/B00ADSNKAG/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374850586&sr=1-1

Cowboys are a neglected and fun Florida historial theme. The other themes are so overdone: sharks, gators, suns, etc. I guess we could be REALLY accurate and be the Jacksonville Grapefruit and Other Produce Exporters or the Jacksonville Steamboat Shipping Line Operators, but I'm looking for something more romantic.

[Cheshire Cat]

I have heard Jacksonville Inferno as a possibility.

I like Jacksonville Bold City FC

Inferno? Like the Great Fire? Maybe not our city's strongest moment.

Don't anyone take this the wrong way, but "The Jacksonville Crackers" would have local history and have a good mascot. Putting aside the recent Trayvon Martin "cracker" as an insult discussions, the crackers were actually north Florida's rough, tough cowboys and lumberjacks that settled this land. We could have a cowboy ride around the stadium on horseback to get people fired up. Jacksonville was a bit like the wild west in the early days, with cowboys and saloons full of prostitutes. It would be a fun theme to play with.

hmm.

"Crackers" were actually poor whites who werent debased enough to be called "white trash", and its a georgia term.

It comes from the term 'cracking corn'

The lumberjacks here were called Piney Wood Knockers.

The area was originally settled by Mocama Native Americans, and in their own language they were called the Ocean People.

Then came the Spaniards, who tried to use the area for furniture lumber but it turns out that water oaks are tremendously bad wood for that purpose.

The french came in and started mining the trees for Turpentine and gum spirits.  But that required keeping the trees alive.  Although they did run a few illegal lumber operations through here.

Then the English came and set up more saw mills.  They were joined by the scottish, who immediately started troublesome (and ultimately disastrous) scottish style dynastic ties with the native americans.

The Americans who settled this area were mostly interested in shipping and trade, and thats really been our dominant theme.

Interesting info.  The term "Crackers" in Florida was born of our cattle and cowboy culture.  It was the crack of the whip that they used to drive cattle that had that name settled upon them.  Watched a lengthy documentary about this very fact some time ago. 

For those interested in that film, you can contact Jacksonville's Women's League.  They are the one who showed the "Florida Crackers" documentary.

[Cheshire Cat]

I have heard Jacksonville Inferno as a possibility.

I like Jacksonville Bold City FC

Inferno? Like the Great Fire? Maybe not our city's strongest moment.

Don't anyone take this the wrong way, but "The Jacksonville Crackers" would have local history and have a good mascot. Putting aside the recent Trayvon Martin "cracker" as an insult discussions, the crackers were actually north Florida's rough, tough cowboys and lumberjacks that settled this land. We could have a cowboy ride around the stadium on horseback to get people fired up. Jacksonville was a bit like the wild west in the early days, with cowboys and saloons full of prostitutes. It would be a fun theme to play with.

hmm.

"Crackers" were actually poor whites who werent debased enough to be called "white trash", and its a georgia term.

It comes from the term 'cracking corn'

The lumberjacks here were called Piney Wood Knockers.

The area was originally settled by Mocama Native Americans, and in their own language they were called the Ocean People.

Then came the Spaniards, who tried to use the area for furniture lumber but it turns out that water oaks are tremendously bad wood for that purpose.

The french came in and started mining the trees for Turpentine and gum spirits.  But that required keeping the trees alive.  Although they did run a few illegal lumber operations through here.

Then the English came and set up more saw mills.  They were joined by the scottish, who immediately started troublesome (and ultimately disastrous) scottish style dynastic ties with the native americans.

The Americans who settled this area were mostly interested in shipping and trade, and thats really been our dominant theme.

Interesting info.  The term "Crackers" in Florida was born of our cattle and cowboy culture.  It was the crack of the whip that they used to drive cattle that had that name settled upon them.  Watched a lengthy documentary about this very fact some time ago. 

It was debunked.  Thats just a bit more of the post fifties mythology that spreads a meme.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cracker

Really?  You know I think this is like so many other "terms" we in the south grew up with.  Everyone has their own version of the history of the term and actually they all make sense on their own.  As far as the term "Cracker" being an insult, I just don't see it, nor do I see the term "Red Neck" as racially charged either while some do.  lol

[Cheshire Cat]

Well see now, being a "rascal" is not all that bad.    Enjoyed the background info Stephen. 

[danno]

Oh now I remember why I have been away from the forum so long, thread about soccer has moved to a cracker debate.

[danno]

Oh boy.