Ten Historic Springfield Demolitions

Started by Metro Jacksonville, June 27, 2013, 03:01:41 AM

BigNugget

I see your point and from the outside looking in the city does seem a little out of control. Possibly they should work with the community and not just act as an inflexible iron fist.  I get that and my inner "fight the man" hippie resonates with that message.  I agree - give people time for compliance work with them and not against them.  Totally simpatico with you on this.

However inner small govt capitalist doesn't think that it's the responsibility of the local government to maintain private property - historic or not. 

I also like you love old architecture.  With a few exceptions I generally don't like stuff build post WWII. But I don't think age alone makes great architecture.  While some of the most beautiful and significant architecture was built prior to 1929 just because it's old doesn't mean it's great. 

Finally; how many decently maintained buildings has the city razed? (aside from eminant domain stuff) I don't know the answer but if I were to guess I'd bed zero.


Quote from: strider on June 29, 2013, 12:58:41 PM
It is sad that to make your argument Big Nugget and I-10 East, you have to ignore what we say when we agree that not all old houses can be saved and that the owner is of course responsible for their houses.  Why can't you hear that the city is also responsible because of its own laws?  Why can't you hear that we are more concerned about why houses are taken down rather than losing a few that actually must come down?  Why is ugly a death sentence for these houses? Why can't you see that MCC is out of control, whether it is demolitions without just cause or how they treat the very people they are supposed to be serving? Why is it that us standing strong in our beliefs makes us unbending and wrong but you can ignore the facts and tell us we are the ones wrong? Why is it it seems you only hear what you want to hear?

Like I said, I'd rather have ugly hope than no hope at all.

sheclown

this ugly guy, the "Northern Hairy Nosed Wombat" is endangered.



He is protected.

See this ugly girl, she is endangered and protected as well.


KuroiKetsunoHana

Quote from: sheclown on June 29, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
this ugly guy, the "Northern Hairy Nosed Wombat" is endangered.



He is protected.

See this ugly girl, she is endangered and protected as well.


<3 <3 <3
天の下の慈悲はありません。

BigNugget

You're right. I own multiple properties in multiple parts of JAX and a successful business and I'm "stuck" in Springfield.  Someday if I could only afford to move to an 1,800sq/ft ranch house off of Hodges and escape this urban hellhole...

It's terrible that I want other people in the neighborhood to be responsible property owners? You spend so much time judging the city government and judging me and zero time judging irresponsible neighbors and property owners.

> Too bad you cant afford to live in a better neighborhood I guess.

BigNugget

I am neither married or sexually agressive. I'm more mind my own business, keep to myself and quiet.

Quote from: stephendare on June 29, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 12:36:35 PM
Whenever I've considered stalking in theory I've always lacked the motivation to get off the sofa and do it. If I were to be a stalker it would be more "meh stalker" and less "crazed stalker."  "Maybe after I finally get the laundry done and the oil changed they go on a short stalking run then I find something on YouTube.com to watch and I don't get to it."

Was there an infamous stalking incident?

Quote from: sheclown on June 29, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Big Nugget.  Are you the crazed stalker?

Yes.  she was stalked by a sexually aggressive (married) predator who also lives in the neighborhood.  One of the entrepreneurs.

BigNugget

You paint hearts on houses. Thats hippie.

Quote from: stephendare on June 29, 2013, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 01:20:50 PM
I see your point and from the outside looking in the city does seem a little out of control. Possibly they should work with the community and not just act as an inflexible iron fist.  I get that and my inner "fight the man" hippie resonates with that message.  I agree - give people time for compliance work with them and not against them.  Totally simpatico with you on this.

However inner small govt capitalist doesn't think that it's the responsibility of the local government to maintain private property - historic or not. 

I also like you love old architecture.  With a few exceptions I generally don't like stuff build post WWII. But I don't think age alone makes great architecture.  While some of the most beautiful and significant architecture was built prior to 1929 just because it's old doesn't mean it's great. 

Finally; how many decently maintained buildings has the city razed? (aside from eminant domain stuff) I don't know the answer but if I were to guess I'd bed zero.


Quote from: strider on June 29, 2013, 12:58:41 PM
It is sad that to make your argument Big Nugget and I-10 East, you have to ignore what we say when we agree that not all old houses can be saved and that the owner is of course responsible for their houses.  Why can't you hear that the city is also responsible because of its own laws?  Why can't you hear that we are more concerned about why houses are taken down rather than losing a few that actually must come down?  Why is ugly a death sentence for these houses? Why can't you see that MCC is out of control, whether it is demolitions without just cause or how they treat the very people they are supposed to be serving? Why is it that us standing strong in our beliefs makes us unbending and wrong but you can ignore the facts and tell us we are the ones wrong? Why is it it seems you only hear what you want to hear?

Like I said, I'd rather have ugly hope than no hope at all.

hippie?  fight the man? 

Thats bizarre. 

At best.

Unless you consider federal regulations to be dry roasted granola, and national historic designation policy to be made out of patchouli.

But its pretty cut and dried, law and order kind of stuff.  surprised you didn't realize that.

Must have been announced while Atlas was Shrugging or something like that.

sheclown

Quote from: stephendare on June 29, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 12:36:35 PM
Whenever I've considered stalking in theory I've always lacked the motivation to get off the sofa and do it. If I were to be a stalker it would be more "meh stalker" and less "crazed stalker."  "Maybe after I finally get the laundry done and the oil changed they go on a short stalking run then I find something on YouTube.com to watch and I don't get to it."

Was there an infamous stalking incident?

Quote from: sheclown on June 29, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Big Nugget.  Are you the crazed stalker?

Yes.  she was stalked by a sexually aggressive (married) predator who also lives in the neighborhood.  One of the entrepreneurs.

Stephen, she IS being stalked still. 

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
I'm more mind my own business, keep to myself and quiet.

Sure seems that way.


BigNugget

That wombat would look good between a couple of pieces of rye bread with some mayonnaise.

Quote from: sheclown on June 29, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
this ugly guy, the "Northern Hairy Nosed Wombat" is endangered.



He is protected.

See this ugly girl, she is endangered and protected as well.




sheclown

Nugget, the wombat sandwich did make me laugh.

BigNugget

It's been enjoyable and enlightening. Time to get some shit done in the non-crazy/extremist real world. Keep up the good fight.

sheclown

Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 01:42:34 PM
It's been enjoyable and enlightening. Time to get some shit done in the non-crazy/extremist real world. Keep up the good fight.

And by the way, I'm not an "extremist" but I am extremely awesome.

KuroiKetsunoHana

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Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 01:30:06 PM
You're right. I own multiple properties in multiple parts of JAX and a successful business and I'm "stuck" in Springfield.  Someday if I could only afford to move to an 1,800sq/ft ranch house off of Hodges and escape this urban hellhole...

closely related to the internet tough guy, we have the internet millionaire...
天の下の慈悲はありません。

sheclown

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Quote from: stephendare on June 29, 2013, 01:48:22 PM
Quote from: sheclown on June 29, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 29, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: BigNugget on June 29, 2013, 12:36:35 PM
Whenever I've considered stalking in theory I've always lacked the motivation to get off the sofa and do it. If I were to be a stalker it would be more "meh stalker" and less "crazed stalker."  "Maybe after I finally get the laundry done and the oil changed they go on a short stalking run then I find something on YouTube.com to watch and I don't get to it."

Was there an infamous stalking incident?

Quote from: sheclown on June 29, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
Big Nugget.  Are you the crazed stalker?

Yes.  she was stalked by a sexually aggressive (married) predator who also lives in the neighborhood.  One of the entrepreneurs.

Stephen, she IS being stalked still.

Why do you say that?  Springfielder informed me that the entire thing was over.

Oh no.  She gets phone calls and sexually suggestive texts all the time.  Packages are mailed to her house. 

Friday's text was pretty tame:

"I'm ready and willing to reach home plate." 

But it is the day in and day out texts and phone calls which are totally creepy.