Intuition no longer hosting events in brewery

[suburbanite]

I've never patronized Intuition, however, I'm sure it's a fine establishment. That said, I have always been perplexed how a bar ("craft-brewery" or not, it's open to the public, it's a bar) could operate out of such a location. Anything north of College, or south of the tracks, is clearly a residential locale. Best of luck to Intuition moving forward, but that location was not thought through to begin with, unless it is only a brewing and distribution operation.

[Tacachale]

^What? It's in an industrial building in an industrial zone. The industrial and residential areas have coexisted for decades. The bar areas are only part of it, and they create a lot less noise than, say, an industrial warehouse that with semis loading and unloading at all hours, or, you know, the train.

[m74reeves]

unfortunately, our neighborhood is looking pretty fickle with our local businesses. sad to see intuition go.

[JFman00]

We had been mulling trying to stage a work event there. Would've brought a lot of people who rarely venture out of TC/the Beaches to the area but guess we'll be have to look elsewhere.

[Tacachale]

^The taproom is still going to be open, just not the bar in the brewery area.

[suburbanite]

^What? It's in an industrial building in an industrial zone. The industrial and residential areas have coexisted for decades. The bar areas are only part of it, and they create a lot less noise than, say, an industrial warehouse that with semis loading and unloading at all hours, or, you know, the train.

That location has never had "trucks loading and unloading at all hours", and the trains are brief and intermittent. In my observation, that location has always operated within normal business hours, in the 35 years I've been passing by. It is light industrial/warehouse, not hospitality. Want respect from the neighbors? Respect them. End the bar, end the problem.

[Tacachale]

^What? It's in an industrial building in an industrial zone. The industrial and residential areas have coexisted for decades. The bar areas are only part of it, and they create a lot less noise than, say, an industrial warehouse that with semis loading and unloading at all hours, or, you know, the train.

That location has never had "trucks loading and unloading at all hours", and the trains are brief and intermittent. In my observation, that location has always operated within normal business hours. It is light industrial/warehouse, not hospitality. Want respect from the neighbors? Respect them. End the bar, end the problem.

That's just weak. It's an industrial zone, all buildings there are zoned for uses that would make a lot more noise than a bar that closes at 11 on weekends and intermittent charity events. Intuition has done more for that neighborhood than nearly any other tenant, and they're being chased out by one complainer.

[Jaxson]

You nailed it, Tacachale, when you said that one squeaky wheel in the neighborhood has ruined it for everyone.  Too bad there is no city hotline for people to call to commend local businesses to help offset the negative reaction from the cranks...

[Intuition Ale Works]

Thanks for all the kind words and I have gotten pretty emotional today.

I take a great deal of pride in making great beer, creating jobs, improving our neighborhood and raising money for some awesome charities. I am such a capitalist!

Here are a couple things I want to clear up.

1. Jim Love is not our councilmen but he will be after the next election cycle.
Warren Jones is our current councilmen and we are big supporters. He gets what we have added to his district.


2. We are zoned light industrial and here is a list of all the uses allowed by right http://www.coj.net/departments/planning-and-development/docs/district-summaries/industrial-light-_il__february-2012.aspx

After reading that list tell me what is a better fit for our location that will continue to improve the neighborhood.  Because that is who will be the next tenant in a couple of years. If it get's rented at all.

[fieldafm]

So living next to San Juan Animal Hospital and barking dogs all night is better than a brewpub that has reduced crime in the area?

Makes sense...

[m74reeves]

You nailed it, Tacachale, when you said that one squeaky wheel in the neighborhood has ruined it for everyone.  Too bad there is no city hotline for people to call to commend local businesses to help offset the negative reaction from the cranks...

^Amen!

[KEGreene1]

The 99% need to start speaking up.  The 1% is driving this bus into the ground.

[acme54321]

The 99% need to start speaking up.  The 1% is driving this bus into the ground.

I dont think intuition's complaining neighbors are anywher near "the 1%"

[strider]

Light industrial allows for a restaurant by right:

(6) Restaurants, (regulated by DBPR - Division of Hotels and Restaurants) including retail sale and
service of beer and wine for consumption on premises


Light Industrial zoning also allows for a bar to be opened with an exception, meaning simply that as it is a less intensive use them most of the uses allowed by right, it can certainly be a bar.

(5) Retail sales and service of all alcoholic beverages for either off-premises consumption or on-premises
consumption or both.
(6) Retail sales including outside display.

Did they get you on some percentage of area thing?


I'm a bit surprised that and exception wasn't what was done. If only one complained, then one would think it would pass.  Unless the unspoken is that RAP or more was against it?  I am also very surprised at the noise level  issue and fine.  How?  Like a bar area like that actually generated more noise than most of the allowed by right uses. Are there time limits I am missing for light industrial to be used?

There does seem like there is more to this story.  So, Intuition, if you want a cool place to move to, the warehouse district close to Springfield should meet your needs.  Far enough from the residential and still enough loud industrial for you to blend in and avoid any issues.  I do have an idea for you that I think would be pretty cool.  And no, no profit in it for me except I could stop on the way home....

[Bativac]

The 99% need to start speaking up.  The 1% is driving this bus into the ground.

I think this is more like part of the 99% complaining about another part of the 99%. This isn't the rich coming down on the working class. It's yet another case of someone in Jacksonville with a small town mindset making enough noise that something cool and creative risks coming to an end.

Those guys at Intuition must seriously want to do business in Jacksonville to be willing to tolerate this kind of foolishness and stay in town.