Prosecutions Coming for Global Warming Deniers?

Started by stephendare, June 25, 2008, 09:14:59 AM

RiversideGator

What role does the fact that we emerged from the Little Ice Age in the early 20th Century have in the fact that temperatures increased?  Also, how do you account for the lack of warming and indeed cooling over the last 7-10 years?

Lunican

I don't account for anything. I'm just trying to help you read a very simple chart.

RiversideGator

Quote from: Lunican on July 23, 2008, 05:24:27 PM
I don't account for anything. I'm just trying to help you read a very simple chart.

I am very familiar with reading charts.  This chart, by itself, proves nothing however.  That is the point.

Midway ®

Quote from: RiversideGator on July 23, 2008, 01:52:52 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 23, 2008, 01:19:47 PM
who knows, maybe ill truly bloom in my 40s.

River, theres hope yet.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I am a confirmed heterosexual and married.

So was Jim McGreevey

Charleston native

I love how all the Climate Changers now have resorted to "wolf-packing" one person, despite the data and evidence provided. Keep talking, comrades. Your delusional radicalism is becoming more apparent as more skeptics come out and more evidence debunking IPCC's conclusion.

Midway ®

Quote from: RiversideGator on July 23, 2008, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: Lunican on July 23, 2008, 05:24:27 PM
I don't account for anything. I'm just trying to help you read a very simple chart.

I am very familiar with reading charts.  This chart, by itself, proves nothing however.  That is the point.

Ok, this chart by itself proves nothing.

How about this chart with a burger, fries and a large shake? I bet it would prove something then!

RiversideGator

Quote from: Midway on July 23, 2008, 06:18:42 PM
Quote from: RiversideGator on July 23, 2008, 01:52:52 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 23, 2008, 01:19:47 PM
who knows, maybe ill truly bloom in my 40s.

River, theres hope yet.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I am a confirmed heterosexual and married.

So was Jim McGreevey

Maybe you and Stephen could make a love connection on this very site, midway.  You boys have so much in common.   :D

RiversideGator

Quote from: stephendare on July 23, 2008, 05:52:12 PM
OK River,   So your contention is that CO2 probably isnt a green house gas, and therefore you do not believe that we are experiencing climate change.

Is that a fair summation?

Basically, yes.  Although I think that CO2 may have a minor greenhouse effect but nothing near as dire as the GW extremists would have us believe.  Also, climate change always occurs.  I do not believe however that we are experiencing any sort of serious or catastrophic change and in fact temperature have been trending down.

RiversideGator

BTW, we have some good news from Dr. Spencer on this topic.  After describing the Clinton/Gore muzzle treatment he received in the 1990s, he discusses new climate data which indicates that the climate is far less sensitive to CO2 levels than had been previously thought:

QuoteOn the subject of the Administration’s involvement in policy-relevant scientific work performed by government employees in the EPA, NASA, and other agencies, I can provide some perspective based upon my previous experiences as a NASA employee. For example, during the Clinton-Gore Administration I was told what I could and could not say during congressional testimony. Since it was well known that I am skeptical of the view that mankind’s greenhouse gas emissions are mostly responsible for global warming, I assumed that this advice was to help protect Vice President Gore’s agenda on the subject. . . .

    Regarding the currently popular theory that mankind is responsible for global warming, I am very pleased to deliver good news from the front lines of climate change research. Our latest research results, which I am about to describe, could have an enormous impact on policy decisions regarding greenhouse gas emissions. Despite decades of persistent uncertainty over how sensitive the climate system is to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels, we now have new satellite evidence which strongly suggests that the climate system is much less sensitive than is claimed by the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. . . .

    If true, an insensitive climate system would mean that we have little to worry about in the way of manmade global warming and associated climate change. And, as we will see, it would also mean that the warming we have experienced in the last 100 years is mostly natural. Of course, if climate change is mostly natural then it is largely out of our control, and is likely to end â€" if it has not ended already, since satellite-measured global temperatures have not warmed for at least seven years now. . . .

    Based upon global oceanic climate variations measured by a variety of NASA and NOAA satellites during the period 2000 through 2005 we have found a signature of climate sensitivity so low that it would reduce future global warming projections to below 1 deg. C by the year 2100. . . .


    Obviously, what I am claiming today is of great importance to the global warming debate and related policy decisions, and it will surely be controversial. These results are not totally unprecedented, though, as other recently published research6 has also led to the conclusion that the real climate system does not exhibit net positive feedback. . . .

    I hope that the Committee realizes that, if true, these new results mean that humanity will be largely spared the negative consequences of human-induced climate change. This would be good news that should be celebrated â€" not attacked and maligned. And given that virtually no research into possible natural explanations for global warming has been performed, it is time for scientific objectivity and integrity to be restored to the field of global warming research. This Committee could, at a minimum, make a statement that encourages that goal.
Read the rest of the testimony here:  http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=e12b56cb-4c7b-4c21-bd4a-7afbc4ee72f3

RiversideGator

BTW, there is now satellite data regarding global temperatures for the last 30 years.  Note that satellite provided temperature data is not subject to being corrupted by new development around the weather stations, changes in the numbers and locations of such stations or the heat island effect.  It should measure global temperatures on a consistent basis using consistent methods over time so it is more accurate.  If rising CO2 levels cause temperatures to increase, it is not reflected here.  Here is the chart.  Decide for yourself:


Eazy E

Serious question (as opposed to taunting question): If Global Warming doesn't exist/occur as some have asserted, why did Cheney and his White House staff go so far to edit reports, suppress reports, redact reports, etc. by gov't scientists?  Wouldn't this seem to fly in the face of Charleston's assertion, above, that scientists tailor their findings to who is in charge?  Further, why would GOP pollster/researcher Frank Luntz feel the need to invent the euphism of "global climate change" as the new buzzword to save his boy W from having to say "global warming"?


Look, I think debate is healthy, and it would truly, truly make me very happy if GW were proved to be some overarching conspiracy involving politicians of both parties in this country, politicians across the globe, scientists, media, corporations, and average citizens worldwide (which, by my phrasing, I am sure you can see I do not believe is true). However, from what I have read, GW seems to be wreaking havoc on very poor and desperate people across the globe, destroying their crops and ways of life, and until we realize there is more at stake than "But I want to set my A/C at 55 degrees and I want to drive a huge gas-wasting truck even though I'm just a sit-at-home soccer mom" more people's lives will be ruined by this phenomenon.

RiversideGator

QuoteThe Grand Exaggerator   [Patrick J. Michaels]


What is it with Al Gore? Why is he compelled to exaggerate climate change (excuse me, “the climate crisis”), and then to propose impossible policy responses? It’s like he’s inventing the Internet all over again!

OK, it’s pretty much standard rhetoric in Washington to say that if you don’t do as I say, there will be massive consequences. But to say, as Gore recently did: “The survival of the United States of America as we know it is at risk;” and: “The future of human civilization is at stake” â€" that’s a bit much, even for the most faded and jaded political junkie.

Here’s how Gore works. He’ll cite one scientific finding that shows what he wants, and then ignore other work that provides important context. Here’s a list of his climate exaggerations from his well-publicized July 17 rant, along with a few sobering facts.

Gore: “Scientists . . . have warned that there is now a 75 percent chance that within five years the entire [North Polar] ice cap will completely disappear during the summer months.”

Fact: The Arctic Ocean was much warmer than it is now for several millennia after the end of the last ice age. We know this because there are trees buried in the tundra along what is now the arctic shore. Those trees can be dated using standard analytical techniques that have been around for decades. According to Glen MacDonald of UCLA, the trees show that July temperatures could have been 5-13°F warmer from 9,000 to about 3,000 years ago than they were in the mid-20th century. The arctic ice cap had to have disappeared in most summers, and yet the polar bear survived!

Gore: “Our weather sure is getting strange, isn’t it? There seem to be more tornadoes than in living memory. . . .”

Fact: The reason there “seems” to be more tornadoes is because of national coverage by Doppler radar, which can detect storms that were previously missed (not to mention that every backyard tornado winds up on YouTube nowadays). Naturally, the additions are weak ones that might, if lucky, tip over a cow. If there were a true increase in tornadoes, then we would see a definite upswing in severe ones, too. If anything, the historical record indicates a slight negative trend in the frequency of major tornadoes, based upon death statistics.

Gore: “ . . . longer droughts . . . ”

Hogwash. The U.S. drought history, given by the Palmer Drought Severity Index, is readily available and extends back to 1895. There’s not a shred of evidence for “longer droughts” in recent decades. The longest ones were in the 1930s and 1950s, decades before “global warming” became “the climate crisis.”

Gore: “ . . . bigger downpours and record floods . . . ”

It’s true, U.S. annual rainfall has increased about 10 percent (three inches) in the last 100 years. But it’s equally true that this is a net benefit. Temperatures haven’t warmed nearly enough to increase the annual surface evaporation by the same amount, so what has resulted is a wetter country during the growing season. Farmers love this, because most of the nation runs a moisture deficit during the hot summer growing season. Increasing rain cuts that deficit.

Gore: “The leading experts predict that we have less than 10 years to make dramatic changes in our global warming pollution lest we lose our ability to ever recover from this environmental crisis.”

This is likely James Hansen of NASA, Gore’s climate guru. He has written and given sworn testimony that six feet of sea-level rise, caused by the rapid shedding of Greenland’s ice, could happen by 2100. Why didn’t Gore defer instead to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, an organization with at least a few hundred bona fide climate scientists? Its 2007 compendium estimates that the contribution of Greenland’s ice to sea level during this century will be around two inches. Gore also forgot the embarrassing truth that there has been no net change in the planetary surface temperature, as measured both by thermometers and satellites, for the last ten years.

It would be easy to go on, particularly about the preposterousness of Gore’s “solution,” which is to produce all of our electricity from solar, wind and geothermal sources within ten years. I’ll leave that for the energy economists to tear apart.

â€" Patrick J. Michaels is a senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute and an active member of the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which was awarded the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzMwNzI1N2FjOWE1ZWNhMzg2MjBlODlhZjFlMTYyNDg

QuotePatrick J. Michaels, Ph.D., (born February 15, 1950) is a part-time research professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia. He is a former university Climatologist for Virginia, a position he held from 1980 [1][2] until his resignation in 2007[3]. His professional specialty was the influence of climate on agriculture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_J._Michaels

RiversideGator

Stephen:  Define "scientific treatise".

Here is something for you to read in the meantime:

QuoteGlobal Warming:
Has the Climate Sensitivity Holy Grail Been Found?
by Roy W. Spencer, Ph.D.

updated 7:00 a.m. CDT, June 30, 2008

(The following is a simplified version of a paper entitled "Chaotic Radiative Forcing,
Feedback Stripes, and the Overestimation of Climate Sensitivity" I submitted on
June 25, 2008 for publication in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society.)
   
ABSTRACT

This article addresses new satellite and modeling evidence that previous satellite diagnoses of high climate sensitivity--which directly translate into predictions of dangerous levels of global warming--contain a large spurious bias. It is shown that those exaggerated estimates were the result of faulty assumptions regarding clouds when analyzing variations in average global temperature and average reflected sunlight off of the Earth.

Specifically, it has been assumed (explicitly or implicitly) that, for global averages on time scales of three months or more, temperature variations cause clouds to change, but that cloud variations do not cause temperature to change. But when properly filtered, the satellite data reveal evidence of cloud variations indeed causing temperature changes, and that this source of natural climate variability biases the estimate of climate sensitivity in the direction of a very sensitive climate system.

The new interpretation suggests a very low sensitivity. If the new sensitivity estimate is accurate, it would suggest only 0.5 deg. C of manmade warming by the year 2100. The new sensitivity estimate also suggests that warming over the last century can not be explained by human greenhouse gas emissions alone, but instead might require a mostly natural explanation.    

1. Introduction

The prediction of how much manmade global warming we will see in the future (as well as how much past warming was manmade) depends upon something called "climate sensitivity". For many years, climate researchers have struggled to diagnose the Earth's climate sensitivity from measurements of the real climate system. It's almost a "holy grail" kind of search, because if we could discover the true value of the climate sensitivity, then we would basically know whether future global warming will be benign, catastrophic, or somewhere in between.

Here I present a new method of satellite data analysis which I believe reveals the climate sensitivity, and I also show why it has been so hard to diagnose from observations.

2. Climate Sensitivity Background

When the Earth warms, it emits more infrared radiation to outer space. This natural cooling mechanism is the same effect you feel at a distance from a hot stove. The hotter anything gets the more infrared energy it loses to its surroundings.

For the Earth, this natural cooling effect amounts to an average of 3.3 Watts per square meter for every 1 deg C that the Earth warms. There is no scientific disagreement on this value.

Climate sensitivity is how clouds and water vapor will change with warming to make that 3.3 Watts a bigger number (stronger natural cooling, called "negative feedback"), or smaller (weaker natural cooling, called "positive feedback").

While there are other sources of change in the climate system, cloud and water vapor changes are likely to dominate climate sensitivity. The greater the sensitivity, the more the Earth will warm from increasing atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations being produced by humans through the burning of fossil fuels.

There are three possibilities for the impact of climate sensitivity on global warming predictions:

   1.) If clouds and water vapor don't change as we add CO2 to the atmosphere, then the expected warming by 2100 would only be about 1 deg. C, which would not be a very big concern for most people. This is called the "zero-feedback" case.

   2.) If low clouds decrease, high (cirrus) clouds increase, or water vapor increases, then warming will be magnified. Most, if not all, climate models predict that clouds and water vapor will change like this, resulting in an amplification of the CO2-only warming of 1 deg C to as much as 4.5 deg. C or more. This is called the "positive feedback" case, and the greater the positive feedback, the greater the warming. (NOTE: If the sum of all positive feedbacks more than cancel out the 3.3 Watt natural cooling, then the climate system is inherently unstable…this is why you sometimes hear of climate change "tipping points".)

   3.) If the climate modelers are wrong -- and low clouds increase, high clouds decrease or water vapor decreases with warming -- then the effect will be to reduce the warming to less than 1 deg. C. For instance, if that 3.3 Watts of natural cooling mentioned earlier increased to as much as 8 Watts from cloud changes, the warming would be reduced to about 0.5 deg C by 2100. This is called the "negative feedback" case.

3. We Must Look to Mother Nature for Clues

To have any hope of figuring out the Earth's climate sensitivity, we must examine natural variations in the climate system for clues. For example, do clouds tend to increase with warming, or decrease? Our interpretations of these relationships find their way into the climate models, so that the models will hopefully behave like the real climate system.

Some researchers, like NASA's James Hansen, believe we can examine clues in the geologic record to estimate climate sensitivity …but I don't. We have a difficult enough time with our high-tech instruments on satellites covering the whole Earth and making direct measurements every day, and yet the climate sensitivity Holy Grail has still eluded us, so I don't see how we can reliably interpret any indirect clues from the geologic record.

4. Analyzing the Data

We need 3 kinds of observations to estimate climate sensitivity. When the Earth warms from natural climate variability, Earth-orbiting satellites measure how much the infrared radiation escaping from the Earth increases, as well as how much the reflected sunlight (a measure of cloud cover) changes as well. Global temperature measurements are also made by satellites.

To make climate sensitivity estimates, we need to compare how global-average temperature variations compare to variations in the amount of radiant energy (emitted infrared plus reflected sunlight) lost by the Earth. These measurements are usually averaged for 3 months or more to get a single pair of numbers to compare.

The increase in energy lost by the Earth per degree of warming during natural climate variability is believed to be a measure of the climate sensitivity. Researchers typically plot these temperature and radiant energy variations on a graph, and analyze the results. For purposes of discussion, I will call these "climate sensitivity graphs".

Let's look at the basic idea first…we plot temperature change on the horizontal axis, and radiant energy change on the vertical axis, with each pair of 3-monthly, global averages being one data point. This is shown in the following graph (Fig. 1):



Fig. 1. Conceptual plot of how the Earth's radiative cooling to outer space (vertical axis) changes with temperature (horizontal axis). Four lines are drawn illustrating how hypothetical satellite observations of these two variables might align themselves on the graph for different "climate sensitivities". Each climate sensitivity line (also called a feedback line) is labeled with how much global warming might be expected by 2100 as a response to manmade greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere, for that climate sensitivity.


I have drawn different lines on the above chart that represent different climate sensitivities; I have labeled them in terms of how much global warming by 2100 each line corresponds to (assuming some level of future greenhouse gas emissions).

Let's think about what one of these lines means: let's use the 0.5 deg C line as an example. That line has the steepest slope, which means for a certain amount of temperature increase, the Earth emits the maximum amount of extra radiant energy to outer space. (This increase in radiative energy could be from extra emitted infrared, extra reflected sunlight off of clouds, or both).

       4.1 Hypothetical Case 1: HIGH climate sensitivity

Now lets pretend we have some actual satellite measurements to plot on the above graph, and it turns out they neatly align themselves along the 4 deg C line, as in Fig. 1 (above). This would suggest the climate system is VERY SENSITIVE, and that not very much extra energy is being lost to outer space for a certain amount of warming. What this would mean for global warming is that, in response to the extra infrared trapping by the extra carbon dioxide we are putting into the atmosphere, the Earth will require a LARGE temperature increase in order to restore balance to the radiant energy flows in and out of the Earth ("in" meaning absorbed sunlight, and "out" meaning emitted infrared plus reflected sunlight).

       4.2 Hypothetical Case 1: LOW climate sensitivity

Now let's assume that the satellite measurements of natural climate variability neatly cluster along the 0.5 deg C line, which is shown in Fig. 2 (below).



Fig. 2. As in Fig. 1, but now for low climate sensitivity.


In this case, the data suggests that the climate system is INSENSITIVE, that is, a certain amount of trapping of infrared energy by our greenhouse gas emissions will only cause a small increase in temperature to restore radiative balance of the Earth.

       4.3 Hypothetical Case 3: HIGH climate sensitivity, but with NOISY data

In reality, the situation with real satellite data is not as clean as the previous two examples where all of the data fell neatly on a line. In the following graph we see an example of what is more typical (Fig. 3):



Fig. 3. As in Fig. 1, but now the hypothetical data are "noisy", as in real satellite measurements.


In this "noisy data" case we see that the data seem to be somewhat aligned along an imaginary line between the "2 deg." line and the "4 deg." line, let's say 3 degrees. But since the data do not form a nice, neat line there is quite a bit of uncertainty - this is more like the case with real satellite data.

And, unfortunately, nature is even more complicated than this. Typically, depending upon what years we analyze data from, we get different clouds of points seemingly aligned along lines of different slopes. Some researchers interpret this to mean that climate sensitivity actually varies between different values.

And to make matters even worse, we don't have very much real satellite data to plot. Since there are only 4 totally independent data points per year (one data point every 3 months) to plot, and at best there are only about 20 years of satellite data to analyze, there are at most 80 data points to plot. We would prefer to have hundreds or thousands, but our satellite data record is still pretty short.

       4.4 Real satellite data

Now let's explore why, in my opinion, the real satellite data have been so ambiguous. As we will see, researchers have been misinterpreting what Mother Nature has been trying to tell us.

First, I will show some data from 6 years of our best NASA and NOAA instruments on-orbit around the Earth since 2000. In the following chart I show weekly global oceanic averages, rather than 3-monthly, so you can see more data points and how they tend to form a "cloud". (I've plotted a 7-day average for every day in the 6-year record, making it look like there is more independent data than there really is.)



Fig. 4. Weekly global oceanic averages of total radiative (reflected solar plus emitted infrared) flux changes measured by NASA's CERES instrument on the Terra satellite, and corresponding tropospheric temperature measurements made by the AMSU instrument on the NOAA-15 satellite.


We see that the data do tend to cluster along an imaginary line, and the slope of that line is 4.5 Watts per sq. meter per deg. C. This would indicate low climate sensitivity, and if applied to future global warming would suggest only about 0.8 deg. C of warming by 2100.

Now, it would be nice if we could just stop here and say we have evidence of an insensitive climate system, and proclaim that global warming won't be a problem. Unfortunately, for reasons that still remain a little obscure, the experts who do this kind of work claim we must average the data on three-monthly time scales or longer in order to get a meaningful climate sensitivity for the long time scales involved in global warming (many years).

OK, so let's average these data at 3-monthly time scales, which is shown in the following graph (Fig. 5).



Fig. 5. As in Fig. 4, but now for 91 day averages.


Now, we see that our 4.5 Watt line has suddenly turned into a 0.6 Watt line, which is a very high climate sensitivity - about 6 deg. C warming by 2100. Obviously, this is a very different story from the weekly averaging, which gave us a very low climate sensitivity. How are we supposed to interpret these very different results?

First, notice how "poorly behaved" the data are in Fig. 5. They don't cluster along the line very well at all. This is one reason why a few researchers have published papers saying not to trust this method of estimating climate sensitivity. Nevertheless, the climate modelers still use it to validate their models.

In fact, much of the the data in Fig. 5 seem to be arranged along a number of lines of much steeper slope, which I have indicated with the 4 thin lines I have drawn on the graph. What does all this mean?

These linear striations in the data were an accidental finding of mine. I was computing these averages in an Excel spreadsheet that had daily averages in it, so the easiest way for me to make 3-monthly (91 day) averages was to simply compute a new average centered on each day in the 6-year data record. But it turns out that when you do this, you get to see how the averages evolve in time. They form long, snake-like patterns (see Fig, 5), with adjacent dots representing adjacent days.

Each of those linear features represent different sub-periods of time in the satellite record which are indicating a different slope…about 8 Watts per sq. meter per deg. C. But why do the linear clusters of points spread out horizontally like that, all together giving the impression of a very sensitive climate system (only 0.6 Watts per sq. meter per deg. C)? We will find out shortly.
http://www.weatherquestions.com/Climate-Sensitivity-Holy-Grail.htm

RiversideGator

#193
Part 2 of the piece by Dr. Spencer:

Quote5. A Simple Climate Model, and a New Interpretation of Satellite Measurements

In order to answer questions like these, it is useful to build a climate model. While the climate models you hear about in the news represent a huge collaborative effort among many scientists and years of work, you might be surprised to learn that they still do not produce more accurate warming estimates than the simplest of climate models -- at least not for a global-average warming.

In fact, the global warming problem can be approximated with a single equation with only three terms. I will express that equation with the following description: (1) the change in temperature with time of the climate system is equal to (2) a net heating or cooling term plus (3) a feedback term representing the climate sensitivity. In fact, if I know the climate sensitivity (a coefficient in the feedback term) then I can make just as good an estimate of global warming with this one equation as can a state-of-the-art, multi-million dollar climate model running on a supercomputer.

I created such a simple model in an Excel spreadsheet. In the following graph we see a climate sensitivity chart for a model forced with only radiative forcing (representing, for instance, changing amounts of low cloud cover letting variable amounts of sunlight in). Just as I did for the real satellite data in Fig. 5, I have plotted 91-day averages for every day from the 85 years model run time. I have also specified a total feedback parameter (which is related to a specific climate sensitivity) of 6.0 Watts per sq. m. per deg. C in the model run.



Fig. 6. As in previous graphs, but now the data come from a simple climate model forced only by variations in cloud cover and run for 85 years of model time. The feedback slope specified in the model is 6 Watts per sq. m. per deg. C.


Significantly, note that the feedback parameter line fitted to these data is virtually horizontal, with almost zero slope. Strictly speaking that would represent a borderline-unstable climate system. The same results were found no matter how deep the model ocean was assumed to be, or how frequently or infrequently the radiative forcing (cloud changes) occurred, or what the specified feedback was. What this means is that cloud variability in the climate system always causes temperature changes that "look like" a sensitive climate system, no matter what the true sensitivity is. This is a very significant result...it isn't entirely new, since at least one previously published paper suggested it, but the authors of that study did not appreciate its importance.

Now, lets force the model with only NON-radiative heating variations, such as might occur from changing amounts of evaporation from the model's water surface (faster evaporation causes a lower temperature). In this case (graph below in Fig. 7), we see that the data fit neatly along a line with the correct slope (correct climate sensitivity).



Fig. 7. As in Fig. 6, but now the model is forced with NON-radiative variations in cooling of the ocean (such as through evaporation).


The only difference between these two graphs (Figs. 6 and 7) is that one involved RADIATIVE forcing (such as from varying cloud cover), while the other involved NON-radiative forcing (such as from evaporation).

Now, if we combine BOTH radiative and non-radiative forcings together, we get a model response seen in the following graph (Fig. 8 ):



Fig. 8. As in Figs. 6 and 7, but now the model is forced with both radiative and NON-radiative variations in cooling of the ocean (such as through cloud variations AND variations in evaporation).


We ALSO see that the diagnosed slope (1.7 Watts per sq. m. per deg. C) is far from that specified in the model (6.0 Watts per sq. m. per deg. C) -- specifically, the diagnosed sensitivity is BIASED in the direction of high climate sensitivity (toward zero) even though a very low sensitivity was specified.

Significantly, note that we also begin to see in Fig. 8 a tendency for some of the data to align themselves along the parallel lines representing the true feedback. Thus, this model analysis (Fig. 8 ) supports the new data interpretation (Fig. 9, below) that the true feedback signal appears during certain sub-periods of time in the 6-year satellite record which is superimposed upon a slowly varying background of cloud-forced temperature change. It is that background signal for which we can not diagnose a feedback (see Fig. 6 again)...it instead contaminates and obscures the true feedback signal, spuriously biasing it in the direction of high climate sensitivity (low feedback number).



Fig. 9. 91-day global oceanic averages of total radiative (reflected solar plus emitted infrared) flux changes measured by NASA's CERES instrument on the Terra satellite, and corresponding tropospheric temperature measurements made by the AMSU instrument on the NOAA-15 satellite. See above text for details about how cloud variability causes a contamination of the true feedback (climate sensitivity) signal.

6. Conclusions and Implications for Global Warming

So, what does all this mean? Here are the conclusions I have come to:

   1) Current satellite estimates of climate sensitivity have a spurious BIAS in the direction of HIGH SENSITIVITY.

   (2) This bias is probably due to small, natural fluctuations in cloud cover causing contamination of the true climate sensitivity signal.

   (3) The true climate sensitivity only shows up during those shorter periods of time when non-radiative forcing (e.g. evaporation) is causing a relatively large source of temperature variability, compared to that from cloud variability which "tries" to push the diagnosed line slope toward zero (borderline unstable climate system).

Now let's use what we've learned from the model in our interpretation of the satellite observations, which I have reproduced in Fig. 9. The linear striations we saw (I call them "feedback stripes") represent the true signal of feedback (climate sensitivity) in the climate system. In that case, those feedback stripes are aligned along a line slope with the astonishingly high value of 8 Watts per sq. m. per deg. C. This is stronger negative feedback (lower climate sensitivity) than I think anyone has ever dreamed possible. If applied to the estimation of manmade global warming, it would result in only about 0.5 deg. C (less than 1 deg. F) of warming by 2100.

It still might be legitimately claimed that this strong negative feedback seen in the satellite data on short time scales might not apply to the long time scales of global warming. But our understanding of climate sensitivity will ALWAYS be limited to a short satellite data record, so the same can be claimed of any climate sensitivity estimates. After all, the data in Fig. 9 are 3-monthly averages, which others have assumed to be sufficiently long to diagnose climate sensitivity.

Now, let's turn to what this means for climate modeling. Since climate models are constructed based upon our understanding of "what causes what" to happen in the climate system, they have probably been constructed based upon a misunderstanding of how the climate system operates. We already know that ALL 20 models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) have higher climate sensitivities than our best estimates from satellite data, even without this new interpretation of the satellite data. Why is this?

I believe that it comes down to a basic misinterpretation regarding cause and effect: Climate models have been built with natural climate variability as a guide, during which it has been assumed that observed temperature variability caused the observed cloud variability. But since causation also flows in the opposite direction (cloud variability causing temperature variability), the climate models have a built-in bias toward high climate sensitivity, and so they produce too much global warming.

Furthermore, there is a very important implication of what I have presented here for the PAST warming we have observed, that is, the approximate 1 deg. C warming over the last 100 years. IF the climate sensitivity really is low (somewhere approaching the feedback parameter of 8 Watts per sq. m. per deg. C estimated here) then manmade greenhouse gas emissions are NOT SUFFICIENT to explain the observed warming in the last 100 years.

You see, we know that the extra CO2 we've added to the atmosphere has caused something like 1.5 Watts per sq. m. of additional trapping of infrared energy in the climate system, but that is nowhere near enough to cause a 1 deg. C warming if the climate system is that insensitive.

One would need to find some additional, natural source of warming. And the most likely culprit? A small change in cloud cover. The question is, then, Have there been natural changes in cloud cover (only about 1% would be needed) in the last 100 years which have caused some, or even most, of our warming?

Unfortunately, we may never know, simply because our observations of global cloud cover are nowhere near long enough, or good enough.
http://www.weatherquestions.com/Climate-Sensitivity-Holy-Grail.htm

RiversideGator

Meanwhile, Alaska is on pace to have its coldest summer ever.  I especially like how the newspaper writer stated the facts about the weather and then had to editorialize basically that "of course global warming is coming soon".   :D

QuoteGloomy summer headed toward infamy

CHILLY: Anchorage could hit 65 degrees for fewest days on record.

By GEORGE BRYSON
gbryson@adn.com

Published: July 24th, 2008 12:10 AM
Last Modified: July 24th, 2008 04:56 PM

The coldest summer ever? You might be looking at it, weather folks say.

Right now the so-called summer of '08 is on pace to produce the fewest days ever recorded in which the temperature in Anchorage managed to reach 65 degrees.

That unhappy record was set in 1970, when we only made it to the 65-degree mark, which many Alaskans consider a nice temperature, 16 days out of 365.

This year, however -- with the summer more than half over -- there have been only seven 65-degree days so far. And that's with just a month of potential "balmy" days remaining and the forecast looking gloomy.

National Weather Service meteorologist Sam Albanese, a storm warning coordinator for Alaska, says the outlook is for Anchorage to remain cool and cloudy through the rest of July.

"There's no real warm feature moving in," Albanese said. "And that's just been the pattern we've been stuck in for a couple weeks now."

In the Matanuska Valley on Wednesday snow dusted the Chugach. On the Kenai Peninsula, rain was raising Six-Mile River to flood levels and rafting trips had to be canceled.

So if the cold and drizzle are going to continue anyway, why not shoot for a record? The mark is well within reach, Albanese said:

"It's probably going to go down as the summer with the least number of 65-degree days."

MEASURING THE MISERY

In terms of "coldest summer ever," however, a better measure might be the number of days Anchorage fails to even reach 60.

There too, 2008 is a contender, having so far notched only 35 such days -- far below the summer-long average of 88.

Unless we get 10 more days of 60-degree or warmer temperatures, we're going to break the dismal 1971 record of only 46 such days, a possibility too awful to contemplate.

Still, according to a series of charts cobbled together Tuesday evening by a night-shift meteorologist in the weather service's Anchorage office, the current summer clearly has broken company with the record-setting warmth of recent years. Consider:

• 70-degree days. So far this summer there have been two. Usually there are 15. Last year there were 21. In 2004 there were 49.

• 75-degree days. So far this summer there've been zero. Usually there are four. It may be hard to remember, but last year there were 21. In 2004 there were 23.


So are all bets off on global warming? Hardly, scientists say. Climate change is a function of long-term trends, not single summers or individual hurricanes.

Last year the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded that it's "unequivocal" the world is warming, considering how 11 of the warmest years on record have occurred in the past 13 years.

So what's going on in Alaska, which also posted a fairly frigid winter?

LA NINA

Federal meteorologists trace a lot of the cool weather to ocean temperatures in the South Pacific.

When the seas off the coast of Peru are 2 to 4 degrees cooler than normal, a La Nina weather pattern develops, which brings cooler-than- normal weather to Alaska.

For most of the past year, La Nina (the opposite of El Nino, in which warmer-than-normal ocean temperatures occur off Peru) has prevailed. But that's now beginning to change.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Web site, water temperatures in the eastern South Pacific began to warm this summer -- and the weather should eventually follow.

The current three-month outlook posted by the national Climate Prediction Center in Camp Springs, Md., calls for below-normal temperatures for the south coast of Alaska from August through October -- turning to above-normal temperatures from October through December.
http://www.adn.com/life/story/473786.html