Live Blog: Revised Mobility Fee Moratorium

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:40:37 PM

Wyman said neither the builders nor Doug Skies liked the three month ramp up.

UNSPOKEN: But the flip side will be the builders will go after more in their favor in another meeting.

Love wants a 9 month ramp up.

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:42:39 PM

Clark says 9 months if 'fair' for the poor undernourished builders.

thelakelander · April 08, 2013, 04:43:32 PM

What difference does it make? They are correct that no one is going to pay in the first three months if they can wait it out and pocket the extra cash. Why do you think it's taken so long for that 7-Eleven in Five Points to get underway?

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:44:20 PM

This is a bigger cluster $^!(@# then tying to understand Obama Care.

JeffreyS · April 08, 2013, 04:45:44 PM

I thought the whole point was to get jobs now. I Guess if that was really the point they wouldn't be ignoring the construction jobs numbers of been out of sight the first quarter.

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:46:00 PM

Doug speaking, 'I agreed to an 18 month, but I won't support a 21 month moratorium. If you want 9 months, lets take it off the back side of the agreement.'

TheCat · April 08, 2013, 04:46:40 PM

So, Love, Anderson and Clark push for a 9 month ramp up.

Skiles and "Topnell?" are asked how they feel about a 9 month ramp-up.

Topnell says, If the purpose is to create incentive why are we trying to incentivize projects that are in development.

Skiles says "I don't want to see a 21 month moratorium. If you do want to start the moratorium immediately then take the additional months off of the back end so it's no longer than 18 months."

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:47:07 PM

DOUG, 'Take the ramp up completely out of the program.'

TheCat · April 08, 2013, 04:49:33 PM

Lumb calls Herzberg (Sleiman's guy) to speak. He says, don't take it off the back end. This is not a moratorium. This is a fee reduction bill.

thelakelander · April 08, 2013, 04:49:44 PM

Lovely. Herzberg's line broken down in layman's terms. I'm not going to kill you by nuking you. Instead, I'm going to shoot you 10 times with a semi-automatic. Sounds like a compromise to me.

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:51:29 PM

Gilliford, I am going to vote against this change. Another 3 months? we'll get push back from that. I think the ramp up idea is good.

TheCat · April 08, 2013, 04:52:38 PM

Gulliford:

I'm going to vote against the amendment to extend the ramp up. He says if we have an agreement we should not try to reengineer the bill.

Clark says "90 days is an eternity for someone working in the construction industry." Again, you are just trying to feed your family. I think the amendment should be passed.

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:53:41 PM

Clark, 'Councilman Love's heart is in the right place, I want the amendment to pass, there's more to Jacksonville then these guys (a sweep of his hand toward the crowd) guys in here.

Translate that: We're the kings and princes' sit down, shut up and hang on.

Ocklawaha · April 08, 2013, 04:55:50 PM

Crescimbeni voted against the amendment others voted for it. 'My commitment to the group won't allow me to vote for it.'

It failed to pass in finance.

TheCat · April 08, 2013, 04:56:52 PM

Who knew the council were such Socialists? Lumb "everything always works out in the long run the problem is you need to eat in the short run." The amendment does not pass because it fails in Finance. Crescimbeni refuses to lengthen the reductionorium because of his obligation to the people he met with to create this bill. He's willing to elongate the ramp up if they were willing to take it off of the back end.