LIVE BLOG: MOBILITY FEE MORATORIUM: Rules&Finance Committee

Started by TheCat, March 11, 2013, 04:05:54 PM

JeffreyS

Lenny Smash

Bridges

Classic negotiating tactic.  Start with an offer so absurd that anything sounds reasonable.
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

coredumped

Jags season ticket holder.

Cheshire Cat

#48
Of course lobbyists are "okay" with it .  That way another bill can be introduced in a year and hopefully the opposition to the moratorium will be asleep at the wheel when that happens.

Lumb, there is no conundrum!  The moratorium has not worked and there are no facts that support any suggestion that it did.  Pay attention please!  We don't need to extend the moratorium for a year, two or three.  Come on council!  Represent the entire city and stop allowing money to be lost to certain interests without constraints that require those investments have done what supporters claim they will do.  Our city cannot afford this and it isn't needed now.  Things are looking up and the facts and market prove that to be true.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

TheCat

Gulliford:

Reminds everyone that fees are marginal costs to builders. It does not dictate whether or not something will be built.



jcjohnpaint


thelakelander

I love Councilwoman Boyer. We need to clone her to replace a few council seats.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

TheCat

Gulliford and Crescimbeni discuss the actual time length of the moratorium. Gulliford talks for a long time and ends with "yeah, i think this is necessary."

Boyer:

The florida supreme court decided that impact fees can be charged.  They decided that there is a very real connection between new developments and transportation costs.

Impact fees will have to be paid. This is a zero sum game. If the developers don't have to pay the general public has to pay. We are not talking about whether these fees should exists or not. We are talking about WHO should be paying these fees.

We have a major issue that we are borrowing money just to resurface roads. We're not even scratching the surface of costs associated with development.


acme54321


jcjohnpaint


Bill Hoff

Boyer is great.

"This would be kicking the can down the road. The costs of infrastructure would be shifted to the public."

Cheshire Cat

Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

TheCat

Boyer is the first Council person to speak intelligently, quickly and deliberately.

jcjohnpaint

Yeah I would say!  Seems to be only sign intelligence up there. 

thelakelander

Wow....Boyer brings up that River City Marketplace and St. Johns Town Center as local examples where growth is still strong, yet a fee is still required. Now she's ripping apart the lobbyist's flawed spreadsheet.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali