The Jacksonville Jaguars

[copperfiend]

• Monroe: He's a good pick in the second round.  He's an overwhelmingly average pick as a top ten draft pick.

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He's one of the best left tackles in the NFL. He was a good value at his spot. Especially when you factor in the other top ten picks from that year.

[MEGATRON]

The play calling is a problem. When you keep running the same plays for entire game  (which were not working might I add.) until the 4th Q, you indeed have an issue. When they change the plays, they were lighting the field up. We need to make plays down field. Honestly, were better at that now than running the ball.

This is laughable.  First, Gabbert is checking down and not throwing it down the field.  The play calling is not conservative.  Let me ask you, what were some of the "same plays" they kept calling?  As for "lighting it up,"  that game was over in the first half and everyone, including the Lions, knew it.

Its a talent issue.  We said the same thing last year about Koetter in regard to play calling.  Its a Jimmy and Joe league and we have substandard talent.

[MEGATRON]

• Monroe: He's a good pick in the second round.  He's an overwhelmingly average pick as a top ten draft pick.

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He's one of the best left tackles in the NFL. He was a good value at his spot. Especially when you factor in the other top ten picks from that year.

He is a top 10-12 tackle in the league.  Maybe some consider that worthy of a top ten draft pick.  I don't.  I agree with you that the 2009 draft was weak.

[copperfiend]

I think you're severely underrating Monroe. But hey, everybody is entitled to their opinion.

[MEGATRON]

I think you're severely underrating Monroe. But hey, everybody is entitled to their opinion.

Maybe I am.  LOT is certainly not a position that I am concerned about (maybe the only one besides RB).  However, that one decent pick is not reason enough to retain Gene Smith.

[copperfiend]

I'm not saying Monroe is a reason to keep him. He's just one of the few bright spots on this team.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

• Monroe: He's a good pick in the second round.  He's an overwhelmingly average pick as a top ten draft pick.

Well most of us will just have to disagree with you on this one.

• Cox: He's made of glass and cannot stay on the field.  He's slightly above average when he can play.  He just gave up 129 yards receiving to an injured Calvin Johnson, 85 yards to Darius Heyward-Bey and 144 to Brandon Marshall.  A good CB does not do that.  We gave up a second and a third round pick for him.  There is nothing solid about that.

I hate looking up stats just to disprove people, but I guess I should in this case -
Yes.  He had a bad game against one of, if not the best, WRs in the NFL. 
He only gave up 86 yds to the Bears - 1TD, 1 INT, 1 PD - he wasn't the problem that day.
He only gave up 78 yds to the Raiders with an Int -held Carson Palmer to a 45 QBR

I guess you think that he only lines up against the Marshalls and Johnsons, but whatever....  I'm glad to prove your theory incorrect.

• Jennings: Nice pick in the late rounds but RBs are a dime a dozen and its not unusual to hit on RBs late in the draft.

It's a backhanded compliment, but a compliment none the less.

• Gabbert: Anything but solid.  One 300-yard game in 21.  Contrast that to Luck who has four in eight games.  He's a top ten pick.  In a league where the QB rules, if you do not have a superstar QB, you are going to struggle to make the playoffs.  Gabbert may not be horrible, but he is not going to be a superstar.

Did you look into your magic 8-ball to determine that he'll never be a superstar?  I still believe that Gabbert is a project with huge upside.  The guy you bring up started 3 years, set several PAC-10 records, and made Stanford relevant again.  I love how people always compare against the best...  Hell, why don't we start the Gabbert - Unitas comparison so we can go ahead and cut him.

• Potroast: He has been completely underwhelming this year. 

Again, an injury to start the season set him back, and is it too hard to believe that the other guys are just outplaying him...   That's a problem that I don't mind having.

• Anger:  Whatever.  Its a horrible pick for a team that won 5 games the season before.

Whatever.
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[MEGATRON]

So, let me get this right, Non-RedNeck Westsider.  You think this team is talented?  That's really what you are going with?

[MEGATRON]

Did you look into your magic 8-ball to determine that he'll never be a superstar?  I still believe that Gabbert is a project with huge upside.  The guy you bring up started 3 years, set several PAC-10 records, and made Stanford relevant again.  I love how people always compare against the best...  Hell, why don't we start the Gabbert - Unitas comparison so we can go ahead and cut him.

Fine, compare him to Andy Dalton.  Compare him to RG3.  Compare him to Russell Wilson.  Compare him to Cam Newton.  He's a top ten freaking pick that we traded up to pick.  Tell me, who should we compare him to?  The NFL is not a league where you spend a top ten pick on upside.

[MEGATRON]

Again, an injury to start the season set him back, and is it too hard to believe that the other guys are just outplaying him...   That's a problem that I don't mind having.

Dude, this team is 1-7.  Repeat that a couple times.  If other guys are outplaying him, he sucks.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

So, let me get this right, Non-RedNeck Westsider.  You think this team is talented?  That's really what you are going with?

I think the team has plenty of potential talent.  What the team needs is stability.  I'm may be giving up on this season, but I would like to team to stay mostly intact.  Let GS play out his 3 years with Gabbert and Mularkey along for the ride.  Either win together or go find new jobs together, but at least give them time to work together.

[MEGATRON]

So, let me get this right, Non-RedNeck Westsider.  You think this team is talented?  That's really what you are going with?

I think the team has plenty of potential talent.  What the team needs is stability.  I'm may be giving up on this season, but I would like to team to stay mostly intact.  Let GS play out his 3 years with Gabbert and Mularkey along for the ride.  Either win together or go find new jobs together, but at least give them time to work together.

Three years???  Jesus Christ.  Good luck with that.

[MEGATRON]

This is the least talented team Jacksonville has had since its inaugural season.  Outside of MJD, the roster is devoid of playmakers.  Its not even a young team anymore.

[BridgeTroll]

So, let me get this right, Non-RedNeck Westsider.  You think this team is talented?  That's really what you are going with?

I think the team has plenty of potential talent.  What the team needs is stability.  I'm may be giving up on this season, but I would like to team to stay mostly intact.  Let GS play out his 3 years with Gabbert and Mularkey along for the ride.  Either win together or go find new jobs together, but at least give them time to work together.

Three years???  Jesus Christ.  Good luck with that.

Not a chance...

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Fine, compare him to Andy Dalton.  Compare him to RG3.  Compare him to Russell Wilson.  Compare him to Cam Newton.  He's a top ten freaking pick that we traded up to pick.  Tell me, who should we compare him to?  The NFL is not a league where you spend a top ten pick on upside.

Dalton - 2nd round pick mind you, so I guess everyone missed at least once - 5 years at TCU, 4 as the starter

RG3 - Wonderkind - the Skins sold everything, including the kitchen sink to get him, can they keep him healthy?

Russell Wilson - to be determined.

Cam Newton - seriously?  Looking more and more like another Jamarcus Russell...  Btw, if you take away his rushing TDs, Blaine's has only thrown 5 fewer TDs and 9 fewer INTs with 71 fewer attempts...  Do you want a passer or a runner?