The Jacksonville Jaguars

[comncense]

Gene Smith gave Mike Thomas a new contract last year if I'm not mistaken. A five-year, $19 million contract which paid him $9 million in guaranteed money... Before his contract was even up for that matter. How much sense does that make? Especially after he had a terrible year last year after they tried to make him an outside WR.

[I-10east]

Eben Britton is another one who's not exactly on solid footing right now.

[copperfiend]

Eben Britton is another one who's not exactly on solid footing right now.

He's as good as gone after this year. Brewster is the starter at left guard and Bradfield at right tackle. Britton is a backup.

[duvaldude08]

Gene Smith gave Mike Thomas a new contract last year if I'm not mistaken. A five-year, $19 million contract which paid him $9 million in guaranteed money... Before his contract was even up for that matter. How much sense does that make? Especially after he had a terrible year last year after they tried to make him an outside WR.

That was Wayne Weavers doing, not Gene. Weaver was meddling in the contracts before Khan took over. Why do you think MJD held out? because in the month of October, the same month Thomas got an extension, Weaver told MJD he would get one.

[duvaldude08]

I'm kinda mad we only got a 5th rounder for Thomas. Not to mention that stupid signing bonus down the drain now. Makes Gene look that much more clueless.

With E. Monroe, Cox, Rasheen, Daryl Smith, Pot Roast, Greg Jones, Meester and Rashad Jennings contracts about to be up, who would you go out of your way to give a new contract to? I'd say Monroe, Cox, D. Smith if he's healthy and low ball Jennings.

Getting anything for Thomas is a miracle. A fifth rounder is great. Monroe will get a new deal for sure. Cox deserves one for his play but he is hurt alot and that has to factor into the decision. Before this year, I'd say Pot Roast was a gimme but he hasn't played well. I'd maybe see if he'll sign a high incentive short term deal.

Mathis and Meester are gone. I would not be shocked to see both retire this offseason, especially Meester. The good news there is they have a rookie in Mike Brewster that looks like he could be a long term answer at that position.

Greg is probably gone. I think you can get Jennings back with a modest deal, trade Mojo and draft a running back in the first few rounds and be okay.

I'd have to disagree about Potroast. I think that has more to do with Mosely out playing him at time, but when they are on the field together, they sure do make some plays! And why is everybody down on Greg? He is one of the best in the league. Why would we get rid of him..Just because?

[Wacca Pilatka]

Eben Britton is another one who's not exactly on solid footing right now.

He's as good as gone after this year. Brewster is the starter at left guard and Bradfield at right tackle. Britton is a backup.

Plus, Rackley is back next year and it may be that Brewster starts at C, Rackley at LG, with Estes also probably in the mix.

[Wacca Pilatka]

I'd have to disagree about Potroast. I think that has more to do with Mosely out playing him at time, but when they are on the field together, they sure do make some plays! And why is everybody down on Greg? He is one of the best in the league. Why would we get rid of him..Just because?

Greg's great and I'd love to see him stay.  However, FBs in general seem to be getting phased out of modern pass-oriented offenses.  So I suspect those who are saying "he's gone" are more in the vein of "he's an unnecessary luxury" than "he's not good anymore."  Also, the Jags seem to really like that rookie FB with all the apostrophes in his last name who got hurt in preseason, so perhaps next year he takes the (reduced) Greg role.

Pot Roast did have a big sack against Minnesota and another against Oakland.  Otherwise he's been pushed around a bit.  Probably a temporary loss of strength from the combination of this offseason's weight loss and how the eye injury limited his lifting.  I think he will come back and be productive.  The fact that Mosley has played well is a nice problem to have, not an indictment of Knighton.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Eben Britton is another one who's not exactly on solid footing right now.

He's as good as gone after this year. Brewster is the starter at left guard and Bradfield at right tackle. Britton is a backup.

Plus, Rackley is back next year and it may be that Brewster starts at C, Rackley at LG, with Estes also probably in the mix.

Don't quite lowball him, let him test FA and then sign him for 3 years and lower than the original agreement when he realizes no one else wants damaged goods.  That should light the fire under his ass and maybe he'll finally live up to his rookie contract / draft slotting.

[duvaldude08]

I'd have to disagree about Potroast. I think that has more to do with Mosely out playing him at time, but when they are on the field together, they sure do make some plays! And why is everybody down on Greg? He is one of the best in the league. Why would we get rid of him..Just because?

Greg's great and I'd love to see him stay.  However, FBs in general seem to be getting phased out of modern pass-oriented offenses.  So I suspect those who are saying "he's gone" are more in the vein of "he's an unnecessary luxury" than "he's not good anymore."  Also, the Jags seem to really like that rookie FB with all the apostrophes in his last name who got hurt in preseason, so perhaps next year he takes the (reduced) Greg role.

Pot Roast did have a big sack against Minnesota and another against Oakland.  Otherwise he's been pushed around a bit.  Probably a temporary loss of strength from the combination of this offseason's weight loss and how the eye injury limited his lifting.  I think he will come back and be productive.  The fact that Mosley has played well is a nice problem to have, not an indictment of Knighton.

I agree. We do need depth. Even if potroast is #2 on the depth chart, that pretty good darn depth. I think alot of players we need to keep, but just bump the down the chart.

[copperfiend]

I'd have to disagree about Potroast. I think that has more to do with Mosely out playing him at time, but when they are on the field together, they sure do make some plays! And why is everybody down on Greg? He is one of the best in the league. Why would we get rid of him..Just because?

Greg's great and I'd love to see him stay.  However, FBs in general seem to be getting phased out of modern pass-oriented offenses.  So I suspect those who are saying "he's gone" are more in the vein of "he's an unnecessary luxury" than "he's not good anymore."  Also, the Jags seem to really like that rookie FB with all the apostrophes in his last name who got hurt in preseason, so perhaps next year he takes the (reduced) Greg role.

Agree.

I'm an FSU fan and I love Greg Jones but he is of a dying breed. Is it a coincidence the offense looks better without Mojo? And when Mojo is out, they are running a lot of one back sets with Greg on the bench? He's been a great fullback for this team but it is time to move on if you want to compete in the modern NFL. And if you need a fullback, you can find a guy for cheaper too. The Niners fullback was a defensive end at UCF a few years ago.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Speaking of Britton, while I won't deny he has been a bust, let's not forget he was universally projected to be a late first-round or early second-round pick.  I remember that Sports Illiterate had him slotted at #21.  There's no defense for his performance, but let's not pretend Gene was uniquely in love with him.  (I know NRW understands this, but I've seen a lot of other commentary on various message boards built on the premise that the rest of the NFL wouldn't touch Britton with a ten-foot pole and only Gene wanted him.)

[Wacca Pilatka]

Agree.

I'm an FSU fan and I love Greg Jones but he is of a dying breed. Is it a coincidence the offense looks better without Mojo? And when Mojo is out, they are running a lot of one back sets with Greg on the bench? He's been a great fullback for this team but it is time to move on if you want to compete in the modern NFL. And if you need a fullback, you can find a guy for cheaper too. The Niners fullback was a defensive end at UCF a few years ago.

We're probably even seeing more of Greg than we otherwise would in this offense because there's no true #2 or "move" TE on the roster right now.  It should've been Miller but he kept breaking.  I've little doubt that we target that in the offseason.

[duvaldude08]

I'd have to disagree about Potroast. I think that has more to do with Mosely out playing him at time, but when they are on the field together, they sure do make some plays! And why is everybody down on Greg? He is one of the best in the league. Why would we get rid of him..Just because?

Greg's great and I'd love to see him stay.  However, FBs in general seem to be getting phased out of modern pass-oriented offenses.  So I suspect those who are saying "he's gone" are more in the vein of "he's an unnecessary luxury" than "he's not good anymore."  Also, the Jags seem to really like that rookie FB with all the apostrophes in his last name who got hurt in preseason, so perhaps next year he takes the (reduced) Greg role.

Agree.

I'm an FSU fan and I love Greg Jones but he is of a dying breed. Is it a coincidence the offense looks better without Mojo? And when Mojo is out, they are running a lot of one back sets with Greg on the bench? He's been a great fullback for this team but it is time to move on if you want to compete in the modern NFL. And if you need a fullback, you can find a guy for cheaper too. The Niners fullback was a defensive end at UCF a few years ago.

Ive noticed that also. I honestly think that Jennings is more of a fit of the offense that we are running now. Not to mention MJD is probably having issues grasping the new offense

[Wacca Pilatka]

Jennings ought to be a good fit.  Fine receiver out of the backfield too.  Though I'm really disappointed that he missed seeing some holes last week and had the fumble.  Hopefully that won't recur.  He's a heck of a guy and I'd really like to see him succeed in Jacksonville for a long time.

I'm concerned about his injury potential too, though, because he runs upright (bad memories of Rod Bernstine from my dark past as a Broncos fan pre-Jags).

[comncense]

I'm definitely not on board with letting MJD go. I'm not sure I'd want to draft a RB high when there's so many other positions of need on this team. As far as Greg Jones, I only mentioned him because surprisingly he's the highest paid FB in the NFL. I'd hope he'd take a reasonable deal and come back and play for the Jags. He won't get another big payday I would guess.

What do you guys think about the Jags going after Dwayne Bowe if the Chiefs would let him go for say a 3rd round pick? Of course we'd have to sign him to a new deal, but he's better than any 3rd rounder we'd get next year I'm sure and he's a proven #1 big WR.