10 dollar gas? What happens to the country?

[RiversideGator]

For more on this topic, read this thread:  http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,2182.msg24985.html#new

[civil42806]

 "As drivers began to switch to 100-mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrid cars (already expected to launch by 2010), the electricity grid could come under strain. Theoretically, if everyone had one and plugged it in at night, the grid could handle 84% of the nation's car fleet. But to avoid the risk of city brownouts, the grid capacity would have to rise. Solar, wave and wind power would ramp up. Giant solar thermal power plants, which use mirrors to concentrate the sun's energy, would be built. But in the rush to get power, we'd probably also step up the use of cheap, dirty coal (50% of our electricity generation now). Even nuclear power (21%) could be considered anew."

And shorlty after the 100 mile per gallon plug in car is introduced I expect my date with Gena Gershon to go great

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

The bottom line is moderation and conservation. We cant just keep depleting resources and thinking that the next green fad is going to solve all the problems.

As far as 10$ gas, Id have to quit my job in St. Augustine because it would probably be more profitable for me to be unemployed than spending $1K + on gas a month.  When that happens be on the lookout for me at the base of the Fuller Warren at Park Street, and please be generous.

[Eazy E]

Yeah, try telling the average Jacksonvillian we could avoid this by simply all using less oil:
"Whut?! You f**kin' pu$$y libruls wanna take mah F150 and mah wife's Suburban?! Hail No! you commie f@gs!"

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

Or try explaining why NASCAR and the entire motor "sports" industry is the biggest waste of a precious resource you could ever imagine.

You can't teach 19th century-minded idiots how to live in the 21st century.

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

Yeah, try telling the average Jacksonvillian we could avoid this by simply all using less oil:
"Whut?! You f**kin' pu$$y libruls wanna take mah F150 and mah wife's Suburban?! Hail No! you commie f@gs!"

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

Or try explaining why NASCAR and the entire motor "sports" industry is the biggest waste of a precious resource you could ever imagine.

You can't teach 19th century-minded idiots how to live in the 21st century.

Motor Sports = Oxymoron

[Doctor_K]

Meanwhile, Brazil has discovered a huge oil field off its coasst and is making moves to drill and take advantage of it.  Mexico is building more rigs in it's portion of the Gulf of Mexico to tap potential oil fields there.  And China, and Cuba, and Russia, and on and on.

All the while, both sides of the petroleum argument will continue to be at each others' throats in this country.  Solar farms are being put on hold, to study the environmental impact of bulding them (which is just humorous to the point of insanity, since it's renewable and green energy we're talking about here), so there's going to be that much more of a delay to getting new power generation plants up and running. 

The 'plug-in hybrids further taxing the power grid' opinion is entirely valid, and IMO, I don't think that aspect of it has been fully looked at by the supporters of plug-ins.  Or it's being conveniently ignored to further their agenda.  Either is entirely possible.

After all that, the US will not be much (if *any*) further along towards solving its energy needs, and the above-listed countries will be right there ready to make another buck or four off of the U.S.  Since we're just full of brilliant and enlightened politicos and activists that beat each other down trying to convince the other side that they're right and the counter-argument is wrong, we'll look even more incompetent in the next 10 years to those countries than we probably aready do now.  Great way to knock the U.S. down another notch or two in the world's eyes. 

And you know what?  At that point, we'll *still* be buying oil from someone else.  We'll have this same argument again:  one side will say "if we'd have drilled offshore starting ten years ago, then a-b-c," while the other side will say "if you'd tried alternative and green energy research, then x-y-z."  At the end of the day, we'll be in same exact predicament that we're in now, only probably worse.

If there was really such a pending petroleum crisis, don't you think there'd be much more of a push to end all motor sports?  There's PLENTY more out there than just NASCAR.  Drag racing, late models, funny cars, tractor pulling, Indy Car - not all are 'Southern' and thus 'backwards.'  Is there a huge, overwhelming cry in Europe and Asia and such to end things like Grand Prix, Pro-Am, and other such auto racing?  There may be, but we've not heard about it, have we?

Airlines from the Middle East and Asia are entering contracts to purchase new passenger jumbo jets left and right.  While it's true that newer aircraft models are more fuel-efficient than previous models, the fact remains that they're still buying them up.  Certainly if there was a pending oil crisis, airlines would be smarter than wasting all that money on jets (another 20th-century technology) that still suck up petroleum like the giant aluminum whores that they are.

So, there are apparently plenty more '19th century-minded idiots' across the entire planet than you think that are just in our little backwards 'burgh.  Or in the rest of the South.  Makes me want to think about it further.

[BridgeTroll]

Yeah, try telling the average Jacksonvillian we could avoid this by simply all using less oil:
"Whut?! You f**kin' pu$$y libruls wanna take mah F150 and mah wife's Suburban?! Hail No! you commie f@gs!"

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

Or try explaining why NASCAR and the entire motor "sports" industry is the biggest waste of a precious resource you could ever imagine.

You can't teach 19th century-minded idiots how to live in the 21st century.

Motor Sports = Oxymoron

And ya will not change em talking to em, or about em that way...

[Jason]

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

How would going veggie save oil?   

[David]

yea i'm going to do some research on that.

# 1 meat is delicious.

# 2 if cows produce so much methane, then aren't we saving the planet by eating them?

[David]

Yeah, try telling the average Jacksonvillian we could avoid this by simply all using less oil:
"Whut?! You f**kin' pu$$y libruls wanna take mah F150 and mah wife's Suburban?! Hail No! you commie f@gs!"

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

Or try explaining why NASCAR and the entire motor "sports" industry is the biggest waste of a precious resource you could ever imagine.

You can't teach 19th century-minded idiots how to live in the 21st century.

I agree with all but the veggiebit. I can't live without my chicken wings and bison burgers!

That is a pretty funny impression of your typical god fearin, chuch lovin bubba-gump driving proud southerner. I know the type, they brag about how awesome their truck is because it only gets 5mpg.

It's all relative though, i'm a bit of a hypocrit because I do set my a/c at like 55 degrees at night. I gotta sleep in the cold.

[Eazy E]

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

How would going veggie save oil?   

1) Tons of oil is used to produce crops that go solely to feeding animals (crops that, incidentally, cows stomachs are not meant to digest and are the reason your meat is injected full of hormones, but that is a side issue).
2) Shipping cows and the resultant meat around the country uses up HUGE amounts of oil.

Those 2 off the top of my head.

[Eazy E]

yea i'm going to do some research on that.

# 1 meat is delicious.

# 2 if cows produce so much methane, then aren't we saving the planet by eating them?

No, because if we weren't eating so much meat, the cows wouldn't even be around to produce that methane.

[Eazy E]

Yeah, try telling the average Jacksonvillian we could avoid this by simply all using less oil:
"Whut?! You f**kin' pu$$y libruls wanna take mah F150 and mah wife's Suburban?! Hail No! you commie f@gs!"

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

Or try explaining why NASCAR and the entire motor "sports" industry is the biggest waste of a precious resource you could ever imagine.

You can't teach 19th century-minded idiots how to live in the 21st century.

Motor Sports = Oxymoron

And ya will not change em talking to em, or about em that way...

Trust me, I have tried.  If one cannot see that driving hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of miles a year simply for "sport" is a waste of what is becoming a very precious resource, then that person is not interested in changing.

[Jason]

Aren't veggies shipped as well?  Maybe they aren't quite as heavy but they still need to get around.  Also, if the entire nation went veggie, the increase in farmland sizes would likely be astronomical thereby consuming more of our wildnerness and forests.  Those crops then need to be fertilized, insecticized, and processed.  You've surely seen what kind of damage fertilizer can do to our local water sources.

[BridgeTroll]

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

How would going veggie save oil?   

1) Tons of oil is used to produce crops that go solely to feeding animals (crops that, incidentally, cows stomachs are not meant to digest and are the reason your meat is injected full of hormones, but that is a side issue).
2) Shipping cows and the resultant meat around the country uses up HUGE amounts of oil.

Those 2 off the top of my head.

Tons of oil is used to produce your computer, cell phone etc, and transport them also... If I give up meat will you give up your cell and PC?