10 dollar gas? What happens to the country?

[BridgeTroll]

Yeah, try telling the average Jacksonvillian we could avoid this by simply all using less oil:
"Whut?! You f**kin' pu$$y libruls wanna take mah F150 and mah wife's Suburban?! Hail No! you commie f@gs!"

Or try explaining that by going vegetarian we could all save a ton of oil.

Or try explaining why NASCAR and the entire motor "sports" industry is the biggest waste of a precious resource you could ever imagine.

You can't teach 19th century-minded idiots how to live in the 21st century.

Motor Sports = Oxymoron

And ya will not change em talking to em, or about em that way...

Trust me, I have tried.  If one cannot see that driving hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of miles a year simply for "sport" is a waste of what is becoming a very precious resource, then that person is not interested in changing.

Perhaps we should ban all spectator sports... all that transporting to and from venues, building stadiums, the rubber in the various balls... all wasteful.

[Doctor_K]

No, because if we weren't eating so much meat, the cows wouldn't even be around to produce that methane.

Sure they would.  They evolved from earlier forms of life just like we did.  Humans didn't create cows, nature and evolution did.  Sure, we domesticated them.  To eat them.  In order to survive and expand our diet from fruits, vegetables, and nuts.  And to make it easier to acquire that which nourished our bodies in ways that fruits, nuts, and vegetables couldn't. 

I'll take the cows anyday.  For me, it beats eating veggie-style hands-down.  For others, not so much.  But that's their choice and I'm not going to give them a guilt trip for being herbivorous.  And eating said domesticated cattle beats me having to go out and hunt animals.  But then, plenty of people think hunting animals is awful too. (shrug)

Because eating meat is an instinct, not a choice.  Eating nothing but vegetables and fruit is a choice, not an instinct.  If you want to go back to being a hunter-gatherer from several thousand years ago, please feel free.  It's your choice and I won't berate you over it.  Just don't berate my choice to continue to eat red meat.  I'm not killing the planet by doing so.

# 2 if cows produce so much methane, then aren't we saving the planet by eating them?

Outstanding.    We're saving the planet from re-populated herds of Bison too!  Bison are bigger than cows, no?  Therefore they produce more evil methane.  The more bison we eat, the more we save the planet - just like the cows.  AND - we didn't create bison either! 

The American Plains Indians were eating and utilizing all parts of the buffalo and bison in their lifestyles long before the evil industrialized white men showed up, too - they were the original saviors of the planet!

[Midway ®]

Eliminating sports??

Now you have gone to far!

Off to gitmo with you!

[RiversideGator]

We're all going to die!!

[gatorback]

And not not all of us are going to get into to heaven now are we RiversideGator?

[Driven1]

And not not all of us are going to get into to heaven now are we RiversideGator?

i'll answer that one.  no - unfortunately.  it would be a pleasant thought though, huh?

not possible to believe that if one follows Christ (and actually believes what he says)...
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.  No one comes to the Father except through Me."  pretty straight-forward.  the exception?  there is one - the 100,000 Jews in the end time....where God holds true his promise from ages back made to the Jews.

yep - even though God DESIRES "none to perish", he gave us free will and obviously not everyone is a Christian. 

ok - back to the topic at hand.  no need to go off on a giant tangent here. 

[gatorback]

How much is gas in heaven?  Cuz, if it's at pre-9/11 prices, I'm really interested in going to heaven now.