Speculation on a Mitt Romney Presidency

Started by Midway ®, August 16, 2012, 10:18:11 AM

BackinJax05

Quote from: finehoe on August 16, 2012, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: bill on August 16, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
Quite a success story for the unions.

Of course shitty management decisions had nothing to do with it.

... or mob involvement :)

avonjax

Quote from: BackinJax05 on August 17, 2012, 12:17:47 AM
Quote from: finehoe on August 16, 2012, 11:26:46 PM
Quote from: bill on August 16, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
Quite a success story for the unions.

Of course shitty management decisions had nothing to do with it.


... or mob involvement :)

Quote from: bill on August 16, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: PeeJayEss on August 16, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: bill on August 16, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
Which ones?

How about MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, and every team in them?
Or Exxon-Mobile?
UPS, Caterpillar,  Southwest and Alaksa Airlines, AT&T, Verizon, Costco, Safeway, Kroger, US Steeel, GE, Lockheed, Boeing, GM and Ford (yes, its true!), Disney, Kraft, General Mills, Kelloggs,  Exxon, Consol, Peabody, Kimberley-Clark, Pepsi, all the major movie studios, in fact any profitable company that creates or distributes media, and the list goes on (including Newscorp).

Is it because of the unions that the Big 3 needed to be bailed out? Then what about AIG, BoA, Wells Fargo, et al?

Good examples! Most of the (real) companies have shrunk their workforce, renegotiated union contracts, moved factories over seas, hired more part time and non-union workers, shuttered plants and moved them to right to work states. Hell, US Steel made more steel 100 years ago than they do today. Quite a success story for the unions.

I'm feel bad that I forgot it was only companies with unions that shrunk their workforce, hired part timers and sent their manufacturing overseas.
And Unions don't make employees good or bad. Bad employees are bad employees union or not.
Find a less lame argument to trash unions.

avonjax

So now we're 'entitled' to decent wages?  Education, work ethic, determination be damned. 


Sorry but for many, many companies education, work ethic and determination mean nothing. They still pay crap. And when  you have all 3 and it comes raise time you still get crap.

Not a great argument.

BackinJax05

Quote from: avonjax on August 17, 2012, 12:29:54 AM
So now we're 'entitled' to decent wages?  Education, work ethic, determination be damned. 


Sorry but for many, many companies education, work ethic and determination mean nothing. They still pay crap. And when  you have all 3 and it comes raise time you still get crap.

Not a great argument.

Sad, but true. Nowadays its who you know - or who you blow :P

mtraininjax

QuoteI respectfully disagree. PBS has some good shows. As for the arts, they should be self sustaining.

Really, how many educational systems can stand on their own and be self-sustaining? Arts are in a similar situation, unless they own their own facilities and have more control of their destiny, the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra owns one of the amphitheaters in N. Georgia to help supplement their own revenues.  You have to get over some huge hurdles to become self-sufficient if you are not selling widgets, and even then every penny counts.

If the Arts and Humanties in the USA was selling something that was as popular as the items being sold by Apple, they would have all the money they need. Sadly, that is not the case. Much like Amtrak, people are tuning out the arts and humanities, or not enough people are attending/using them to generate the self-sustaining cash they need to survive. But they are a part of the American fabric.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

BackinJax05

I know Im gonna get clobbered for this, but lets face it: arts & humanities are BORING!! ;)

At least trains are practical & serve a useful purpose.

mtraininjax

QuoteI know Im gonna get clobbered for this, but lets face it: arts & humanities are BORING!!

Education is never a boring topic. I understand the sarcasm,  but we need more education, as evidenced this week!  ::)
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

mtraininjax

QuoteFace it, if Romney gets elected, we're doomed. Not only in Amtrak, but in many other things as well.

I doubt Romney will expand the food stamp program the way it has become under Obama, who is now the Food Stamp President, 1 in 7 people in our country are on food stamps, with more to come. Governmental programs that we cannot pay for will grow and expand. 15 trillion in debt is only a beginning.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: mtraininjax on August 18, 2012, 05:17:42 PM
QuoteFace it, if Romney gets elected, we're doomed. Not only in Amtrak, but in many other things as well.

I doubt Romney will expand the food stamp program the way it has become under Obama, who is now the Food Stamp President, 1 in 7 people in our country are on food stamps, with more to come. Governmental programs that we cannot pay for will grow and expand. 15 trillion in debt is only a beginning.

Yes, the increase in people using food stamps is because Obama happens to be in the white house, surely it has nothing whatsoever to do with the recession. Lol


mtraininjax

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Quotesurely it has nothing whatsoever to do with the recession. Lol

Yeah, but Obama said the "Private Sector is doing fine". LOL!!!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/08/president-obama-the-private-sector-is-doing-just-fine/

Don't forget that unemployment rose in July in 44 states. Nice!

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/18/unemployment-up-in-44-states/

All Romney needs to do is hit home on the economy and the job is his. Poor Obama, he is in the shadow of Jimmy Carter....
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

BackinJax05

^^ I dunno. As much as I disagree with almost everything Obama, Carter seemed 10 times worse.

At least under Obama we dont have a little dip-sh!t 3rd world country pushing us around & holding 52 of our countrymen hostage.

On the other hand, unemployment remains sky high and gas is going up again. Memories of ol' Jimmy ;)

tufsu1

Quote from: mtraininjax on August 18, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Yeah, but Obama said the "Private Sector is doing fine". LOL!!!!

Over 4.5 million new private sector jobs in 30 months...and many companies hoarding cash....so yes, there is an argument that they are doing ok

Adam W

Quote from: finehoe on August 20, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 18, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Yeah, but Obama said the "Private Sector is doing fine". LOL!!!!

Corporate profit margins just hit an all-time high. Companies are making more per dollar of sales than they ever have before. Yet conservatives say that companies are suffering from "too much regulation" and "too many taxes."

Of course never let the facts get in the way of what you "believe".

Yes, it's not about the truth, it's about perception. The official party line is that Barack Obama is a raging liberal (or "worse") and is strangling the economy and taking people's guns (and other rights) away. It doesn't matter if the facts show otherwise.