Shooting in Riverside

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Ralph W

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July 04, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
If a formerly rational man can revert to animal survival instincts when threatened with loss of wife or property , how does that compute to murder and then immediately abandoning those survival instincts by taking his own life?

ronchamblin

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July 04, 2012, 03:48:54 PM Last Edit: July 04, 2012, 09:48:34 PM by ronchamblin
Quote from: Ralph W on July 04, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
If a formerly rational man can revert to animal survival instincts when threatened with loss of wife or property , how does that compute to murder and then immediately abandoning those survival instincts by taking his own life?

Good point Ralph   . _ _       

I agree that he was at some point a rational man.  But as his perceptions of unfariness in the case moved him from rational to the instinctual, after he accepted the plan to murder, and acted it out, he knew that his life was over.  From that point onward, in spite of the instinctual pressure to survive, he knew survival was impossible.  So, he did not necessarily abandon the survival instinct, he simply knew that his life was over, and ended it himself because he didn’t want to wait for anybody else to end it.  Of course, perhaps from his perspective, his life ended even earlier by the measures set by his opponents in the domestic case.   

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BridgeTroll

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July 04, 2012, 03:58:32 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/millionaires-apparent-courtroom-suicide-investigation/story?id=16679079

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By ALYSSA NEWCOMB (@alyssanewcomb)

June 29, 2012


An Arizona millionaire who died minutes after he was convicted of arson appeared to have put something in his mouth while in the court room, sparking an investigation into whether the convicted arsonist had poisoned himself.

Michael Marin, 53, was convicted on Thursday of purposefully burning down his $2.55 million mansion in the tony Biltmore Estates neighborhood of Phoenix after he was unable to keep up with mortgage payments and a plan to raffle his house through a charity fundraiser failed. He faced up to 16 years in prison.

After the guilty verdict on one count of arson was read, a seemingly distraught Marin buried his face into his hands and appeared to place something in his mouth.

His face began to turn red. Minutes later, he took a sip of a liquid from a plastic sports bottle, turned to get a tissue, experienced convulsions and collapsed.

He was pronounced dead at the hospital, said Jeff Sprong, spokesperson for the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office, which is investigating the death.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

RMHoward

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July 12, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
The upper crust in Riverside allow shootings?  E-gad.
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