The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

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Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 02, 2012, 05:23:17 PM
So Mojo is posing nude for ESPN magazine? His contract is not effecting him too much I see!  ;D

Unfortunately, the 'Body' idea is spreading.  I think that Lake, Stephen, Ock and the others are doing a photo-shoot for metrojacksonville....   :o
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duvaldude08

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on July 03, 2012, 09:18:10 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 02, 2012, 05:23:17 PM
So Mojo is posing nude for ESPN magazine? His contract is not effecting him too much I see!  ;D

Unfortunately, the 'Body' idea is spreading.  I think that Lake, Stephen, Ock and the others are doing a photo-shoot for metrojacksonville....   :o

Brown Chicken Brown Cow  ;D
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 03, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
Brown Chicken Brown Cow  ;D

Holy Shit!  I haven't heard/seen that in forever.  Thanks, bro, I needed a laugh.   ;D ;D ;D
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duvaldude08

This is the kind of stuff I just laugh. So now all of a sudden we have stadium issues and if the "situation" worsens, the team can leave? So now they have jumped from we dont support our team, to the stadium. Its amazes me that journalism (or lack there of) is so bad now that they try to make a story out of nothing.  That stadiums has already underwent to renovations and is only 17 years old. And its being currently renovated now AGAIN with more to come. You can look at old videos of the stadium and notice a dramatic difference. But of course, the dumbass writing the article did not research.  We could have the best team and stadium in the league and they will still find something. " Several members of the Roar are overweight. IF they dont lose weight, Khan may move the team." STFU!!

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Jacksonville: Shad Khan's still in his infancy as an NFL owner, so the Jags aren't going anywhere for a while. But this market's a tough one for the league, and the club has laid out to the city what it needs in renovations to make cavernous EverBank Field work. The Jags also have options to leave, if this situation worsens. One is a three-year process, where they'd have to lose money one year, land under the league average in revenue the next two years, then pay off outstanding bonds. The other is a straight buyout, at a significant cost. For now, the Jags are staying. Long-term, things are murkier.

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duvaldude08

They are trying, but no luck so far.

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Jaguars still trying to tackle tarps
Posted: July 8, 2012 - 11:09pm

By Vito Stellino
Jaguars officials are busy brainstorming as they try to come up with new ideas to improve the fan experience at EverBank Field this season.

Mark Lamping, the team’s president in charge of non-football operations, said the team will make an announcement in August before the first preseason game outlining all the new features, though the stadium’s new video scoreboards might not be installed before 2014.

But he admits the Jaguars are finding it difficult to implement one of their bigger ideas â€" taking the tarps off the covered seats without increasing the size of the stadium.

”We’re working on a number of ideas,” Lamping said. “We’d like to get something done this year, but maybe we won’t be able to. It needs to be a done in a way to enhance the fan experience as opposed to an advertising panel. We haven’t come up with a solution, but we’re working very hard.”

New team owner Shad Khan set a goal of removing the tarps earlier this year when he said, “To me, every day I look at the tarps, it is like underachieving, and I can’t wait to be able to do that [remove the tarps].”

Lamping also doesn’t like the tarps.

“Putting tarps over seats does nothing for the fan experience and is a blatant reminder that there are seats under them,” he said.

Lamping said the Cardinals reduced the capacity of old Busch Stadium in St. Louis without using tarps when he was an executive there, covering up more than 5,000 seats with a manually operated scoreboard. The area also included retired numbers and championship flags.

“We filled the stadium only on opening day and when the Cubs came to town, so we didn’t need those seats,” Lamping said.

The difficulty with duplicating that idea at EverBank Field is the Jaguars need to make those seats available for the annual Florida-Georgia game and possibly the Gator Bowl, so they can’t install permanent renovations.

Lamping said they’ve discussed the idea of building platforms that could be used for everything from concession stands to standing room to palm trees to improve the atmosphere. The platforms would have to be designed so they could be taken down for the Florida-Georgia game and then put back up.

But there are problems.

The platforms can’t block the view of seats that aren’t covered. And the plan has to be cost-effective. So far, it is turning out to be more expensive than the Jaguars anticipated.

One thing the Jaguars won’t do is simply remove the tarps that cover almost 10,000 seats and return the capacity to over 76,000. They think the current capacity of 67,246 is about right.

“The stadium is a right size for an NFL team in this market,” Lamping said.

Chicago is the third-largest TV market and has 61,500 seats. Philadelphia, the fourth-largest market, has 69,144 seats.

Former Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver resisted the idea of covering up seats for several years but finally relented and installed them in 2005 after the team had five games blacked out in 2004. The team then had seven games blacked out in 2009 before former Mayor John Peyton started the Team Teal ticket campaign and they avoided blackouts the last two seasons.

Lamping hopes to continue making the Jaguars a blackout-free zone. The NFL is helping all teams achieve that goal, giving them the option of allowing local telecasts even if as few as 85 percent of the non-premium tickets are sold, beginning this season.

“We’re most interested in stopping the talk about blackouts,” Lamping said. “It’s hard to sustain a business when you’re going to the fans each week and saying, ‘Let’s rally around the Jaguars so the games can be on TV.’ We want to put that behind us. We want to grow the franchise and have a very stable, successful franchise.”



Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/2012-07-08/story/jaguars-still-trying-tackle-tarue#ixzz206QCHYsq

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copperfiend

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 06, 2012, 02:01:26 PM
This is the kind of stuff I just laugh. So now all of a sudden we have stadium issues and if the "situation" worsens, the team can leave? So now they have jumped from we dont support our team, to the stadium. Its amazes me that journalism (or lack there of) is so bad now that they try to make a story out of nothing.  That stadiums has already underwent to renovations and is only 17 years old. And its being currently renovated now AGAIN with more to come. You can look at old videos of the stadium and notice a dramatic difference. But of course, the dumbass writing the article did not research.  We could have the best team and stadium in the league and they will still find something. " Several members of the Roar are overweight. IF they dont lose weight, Khan may move the team." STFU!!

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a5c85c/article/nfl-stadiums-go-from-boom-to-swoon-in-span-of-a-decade?module=HP11_content_stream 

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Jacksonville: Shad Khan's still in his infancy as an NFL owner, so the Jags aren't going anywhere for a while. But this market's a tough one for the league, and the club has laid out to the city what it needs in renovations to make cavernous EverBank Field work. The Jags also have options to leave, if this situation worsens. One is a three-year process, where they'd have to lose money one year, land under the league average in revenue the next two years, then pay off outstanding bonds. The other is a straight buyout, at a significant cost. For now, the Jags are staying. Long-term, things are murkier.



For whatever reason, there are many in the media that don't like our city having a team. I honestly cannot explain. They use any little situation with the team as a platform to discuss relocation. I doubt any of them actually realize the team will never show financial losses. So in other words...it isn't happening. First, NFL teams don't lose money. Second, the league would not want any team opening it's financial records to anyone outside league circles.

duvaldude08

Quote from: copperfiend on July 09, 2012, 08:00:36 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 06, 2012, 02:01:26 PM
This is the kind of stuff I just laugh. So now all of a sudden we have stadium issues and if the "situation" worsens, the team can leave? So now they have jumped from we dont support our team, to the stadium. Its amazes me that journalism (or lack there of) is so bad now that they try to make a story out of nothing.  That stadiums has already underwent to renovations and is only 17 years old. And its being currently renovated now AGAIN with more to come. You can look at old videos of the stadium and notice a dramatic difference. But of course, the dumbass writing the article did not research.  We could have the best team and stadium in the league and they will still find something. " Several members of the Roar are overweight. IF they dont lose weight, Khan may move the team." STFU!!

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a5c85c/article/nfl-stadiums-go-from-boom-to-swoon-in-span-of-a-decade?module=HP11_content_stream 

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Jacksonville: Shad Khan's still in his infancy as an NFL owner, so the Jags aren't going anywhere for a while. But this market's a tough one for the league, and the club has laid out to the city what it needs in renovations to make cavernous EverBank Field work. The Jags also have options to leave, if this situation worsens. One is a three-year process, where they'd have to lose money one year, land under the league average in revenue the next two years, then pay off outstanding bonds. The other is a straight buyout, at a significant cost. For now, the Jags are staying. Long-term, things are murkier.



For whatever reason, there are many in the media that don't like our city having a team. I honestly cannot explain. They use any little situation with the team as a platform to discuss relocation. I doubt any of them actually realize the team will never show financial losses. So in other words...it isn't happening. First, NFL teams don't lose money. Second, the league would not want any team opening it's financial records to anyone outside league circles.

They also overlooking key factors. The guidelines states that whatever team applies, must prove that have exhausted every possiable option they have to stay in their current location. NFL teams are not chess pieces that you can move whereever you want. Its really up to the owners to request a move. The NFL only reviews and approved the move. As long as we have an owner deticiated to our market, this team aint going nowhere, EVER.  Im use to it by now, but its gotten to the point it all seems childish. But it has also got people to wondering if anything the media says about Jacksonville is even true. This guy from St louis submitted a question on Jaguars.com. He not a Jags fan nor does he even follow the Jags, but he was just trying to find out more about Jacksonville because the media is so hard on us, he figured that most of the stuff was not even true and he wanted to know the facts.
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duvaldude08

History Lesson!!

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Surprise! It's Jacksonville In Nfl Landslide
Jaguars Join Charlotte In League For '95
December 01, 1993|By Don Pierson, Tribune Pro Football Writer.






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Jacksonville won't need a Florida behind it anymore to identify its location. The National Football League made the smallest expansion candidate home of the Jacksonville Jaguars in a surprising landslide vote of owners in Rosemont Tuesday.

Jacksonville joined the previously named Carolina Panthers of Charlotte as the two teams to begin play in 1995 in divisions yet to be determined. The Southeast rose again as former NFL cities St. Louis and Baltimore and 25-year suitor Memphis were spurned.

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The city scrambled to get back in and fans bought 10,000 club seats in 10 days. It was exactly the kind of hard-line approach NFL owners admire, and Jacksonville's selection at the expense of the tradition in St. Louis and Baltimore sent an unmistakable message to other NFL cities: Don't mess with your teams and risk losing them.

The vote was 26-2 after a committee recommendation of 10-2, Jacksonville over Baltimore. St. Louis, once the odds-on favorite, didn't get a vote, not even from Bears President Michael McCaskey, a member of the joint committee on expansion and finance that made the recommendation.

McCaskey said he never had pledged a vote to St. Louis despite the involvement of Bears great Walter Payton.

"I pledged my support to Walter," McCaskey explained. "It became an open question which city would have the best presentation."

Payton's role wavered when St. Louis switched ownership groups in midstream. Although he appeared Tuesday with new prospective owner Stan Kroenke and was going to get a 2 percent share, Payton was an example of the confusion over ownership and the new stadium lease that tumbled St. Louis from front-runner to also-ran.

At the last minute, the Kroenke group tried to calm owners' concerns over potential lawsuits by offering to stay in old Busch Stadium and make up the money difference until lease issues could be resolved in the new domed stadium, now under construction.

"Jacksonville just had a much stronger package to offer," McCaskey said.

Eagles owner Norman Braman and Giants co-owner Bob Tisch voted for Baltimore in committee. The two no votes from the full membership came from Braman and Patriots owner James Orthwein, a St. Louis resident who was a key player in the St. Louis expansion effort.

Commissioner Paul Tagliabue dispelled the notion that Orthwein now will move the Patriots to St. Louis, saying the league has an agreement he won't move as long as he owns them.

Realignment will be addressed in March, and Tagliabue has the power to slot the two teams if consensus isn't reached.

Jacksonville, population 844,000, is the nation's 55th television market, lowest of all candidates and NFL cities. But other small markets such as Buffalo, New Orleans and Green Bay have proven that football fervor has no direct relationship to population, especially in a league that shares television revenue. Jacksonville led the old United States Football League in attendance, and the NFL is the only sport in town.

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Townhall.com/Obamacare"There was a strong feeling that Jacksonville is a hotbed of football interest, a feeling that the Southeast is the fastest-growing part of the country and that the NFL, even with a team in Charlotte, is under-represented in the Southeast," said Tagliabue, chairman of the expansion committee.

Jacksonville's single-minded devotion to football and its ability to align the business, banking and government community proved decisive. Weaver's negotiations with the city over stadium renovation and his low-rent agreement enabled him to promise fellow owners a huge visitors' share ranging from $1.1 million the first year to $1.39 by the fifth.

The former CEO of Nine West Inc., and owner of Shoe Carnival lives in Connecticut and was criticized as a carpetbagger when he pulled out of the race in July, but Weaver was a hero in Florida and in Rosemont on Tuesday.

"I think our group was very optimistic from the beginning," Weaver said.

Prospective Memphis owner Billy Dunavant said the visitor payout was "a big factor." Dunavant said he would pursue other NFL teams.

McCaskey admitted the shifting St. Louis ownership picture "didn't help them. I don't want to say it hurt them, but stack them up against Wayne Weaver and his group and you say, `These guys have their act together and they look strong.' "

Since Jacksonville has pursued an NFL team the last 15 years, five owners have used the city to improve their own stadium deals-the Colts' Bob Irsay, the Falcons' Rankin Smith, the Oilers' Bud Adams, former Saints owner John Mecom and the Cardinals' Bill Bidwill.

Jacksonville's media donated $500,000 of free advertising during the club-seat ticket drive in late August that Weaver demanded before he would return. One ad promised: "It will be like having the Florida-Georgia game in Jacksonville 10 times a year!"

Dallas owner Jerry Jones summed up the prevailing sentiment: "I think it would be remiss of any city to not step up and do everything they can to keep an NFL team from moving."

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downtownjag

Bleacher Report posted a pretty good article (suprisingly) about the misconceptions behind the Jags because of the media.  The article pretty much calls out the media for bad reporting.  It's a good read

duvaldude08

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by Joe Wilhelm Jr., Staff Writer

Ticket packages for the Nov. 9 Navy-Marine Corps Classic at Naval Station Mayport featuring men’s basketball teams from the University of Florida and Georgetown University will be on sale starting Monday.

Ticket packages are priced at $1,000 and $2,500 and will include four tickets to the Jaguars game donated to the military, two tickets to the Jaguars game to the ticket purchaser and two passes to the Navy-Marine Corps Classic with parking.

“It will be an all-inclusive package for fans,” said Alan Verlander, Mayor Alvin Brown’s director of sports and entertainment.

About 1,600 total packages will be available Monday morning.

The Navy-Marine Corps Classic is scheduled to be held on an aircraft carrier.

Although tickets cannot be sold to an event on an active naval base, a partnership with the Jacksonville Jaguars will help provide basketball fans with a seat at the game, according to Verlander.

“The Jaguars have agreed to partner with us in support of the NFL’s Salute to Service program,” he said.

“Salute to Service” is the NFL’s military appreciation program. Proceeds from the event will benefit programs supporting transitional housing for veterans.

The ticket packages also will provide servicemen and servicewomen access to the Nov. 8 Jaguars game versus the Indianapolis Colts.

The deck of the aircraft carrier won’t be the only place to watch the game.

“We are going to have a huge fan fest before the game outside of the ship. It will be a big festival with video boards, so fans without passes can watch the game,” Verlander said.

“It’s going to be a huge party that will be free, and we will be holding a huge concert before the game,” he said.


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Jdog

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IMHO, the approach seems backwards...(okay I think the NFL is more important). 

Instead of "the Jaguars need to make those seats available for the annual Florida-Georgia game and possibly the Gator Bowl, so they can’t install permanent renovations...The platforms would have to be designed so they could be taken down for the Florida-Georgia game and then put back up..." 

it should be "some clear, open space needs to be able to be available so seats could be installed and removed for the college games..." 

duvaldude08

Quote from: Jdog on July 12, 2012, 12:54:01 PM
IMHO, the approach seems backwards...(okay I think the NFL is more important). 

Instead of "the Jaguars need to make those seats available for the annual Florida-Georgia game and possibly the Gator Bowl, so they can’t install permanent renovations...The platforms would have to be designed so they could be taken down for the Florida-Georgia game and then put back up..." 

it should be "some clear, open space needs to be able to be available so seats could be installed and removed for the college games..."

Same thing I said. As long as we met the seating requirement, whether permenate or temoporary seating, I dont see what the problem is. We act like FL/GA owns the stadium
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tufsu1

^ well FL/GA did come first...and it was called the Gator Bowl.

duvaldude08

Quote from: tufsu1 on July 12, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
^ well FL/GA did come first...and it was called the Gator Bowl.

Yeah, but they dont OWN the stadium.
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I-10east

Quote from: tufsu1 on July 12, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
^ well FL/GA did come first...and it was called the Gator Bowl.

SMH. This is the kinda attitude that make me think that maybe we shouldn't have got a NFL team after all. Well Lee, Jackson, and Landon did come first...and it was called Fairfield Stadium.  ::)