The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

fsquid

pretty bad swing an a miss on this onel.

KEGreene1

Quote from: WmNussbaum on May 31, 2012, 08:16:33 PM
RNYJNY:

Instead of ad homonyms, why not just point out where my reasoning is flawed. Do you think the Jags should get to tell us who we pay for to manage the complexes? How about EverBank? Does it, too, get to dictate on whom we spend tax dollars? And what about CSX, Winn-Dixie, and LPS/Fidelity, all big assets for the City. Do they also get to dictate to us? Are you so
"Jaguar whipped" you think the team should have the right to spend our money for us?

And, no, I don't comment on the T-U website.

We, and I mean We the citizens of Jacksonville.  Wanted an NFL franchise here.  We "voted" on it with our wallets buying the necessary season tickets before awarded a team to prove we, as a community, wanted and would support an NFL team in Jacksonville. 

I said it then and will say it now.  When we were awarded the team, the City of Jacksonville went from a Big small Town to a medium/big town that still wants to be a small town????  We asked to step up to the plate.  IMO we (our city government) has not fully embraced that we are a growing medium market city. 

The Jaguars are our most visible asset.  Keeping a good working relationship with them is very important to this city.  For tourism, to attract new businesses, for city morale and pride.

For the Mayor to ignore these and not simply PICK UP THE PHONE is plain bad business.  To not even understand the contract is a complete ineptitude by the GC and the Mayor.

Jdog

Every time I deal with a legal issue at work, the attorneys inevitably boil it down to "what is the ultimate impact?" "what is the 'effective result'?" 

IMH view, I don't understand why an attorney considered the situation as having risen to the level of necessitating a claim of default (and possible lease termination) --- even if they were correct.   

I can't imagine the city gave some kind of power of attorney / representation to the Jaguars to sign contracts on behalf of the city (I mean, did they?).  And factually, the Jags didn't sign anything binding the city (and I seriously doubt they had that power)...

Certainly it would have been disrespectful and would have complicated discussions with the possible contractors -- and maybe even cost the city money if a contractor pulled out -- but such damage never happened...

Even if the city attorney were correct, I still don't think you would pursue default and possible lease termination so suddenly. 

JeffreyS

And that is the crux Jdog of course even if the city were 100% correct you do not issue a default letter.  I think someone at city hall felt like they were going to put the Jags in their place about this one little issue , nothing would come of it and they would feel like a big shot.

We do not need an administration that needs to feel like big shots. Even if they are as progressive as I am.  Wanting to have a pissing contest is not a good sign of leadership.  This is a big red flag that the "green" brown needs to get some help.

I have heard people who didn't vote for him saying they like his fiscal policy now saying their glad they did not vote for him and won't next time.
Lenny Smash

urbanlibertarian

From what I've read the City Attorney, being ignorant of the amendment to the RFP, felt she needed to start the 45 day clock in order to keep the selection process moving forward.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)


Tacachale

#2001
He blew .15? That's ridiculous.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

duvaldude08

#2002
Youve got to be kidding me. He is making it hard on himself before he even gets started. Nice work. He has a long road ahead of him. He has screwed up his money. Because he not going to get four years of gaurenteed cash now. DUMB ASS. I will openly say I had a DUI last year and blew 14.87. However, have a driven drunk since??? HELL NO. I realized I had too much at risk for something so silly. He has more at risk than I do! He has made it really hard on himself.   
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urbanlibertarian

Does this help the team in negotiating his rookie contract?
Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

duvaldude08

Quote from: urbanlibertarian on June 03, 2012, 03:18:34 PM
Does this help the team in negotiating his rookie contract?

He wont get as much guarenteed money now or he will be offered a rookie tendor.
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KenFSU

At least we've got a punter to fall back on :D

In all seriousness though, maybe Jax will be good for him.

KenFSU

P.S.

I'm hearing he blew closer to a .25 (!!!).

Aggravated DUI, second offense, I'm wondering if the guy could end up behind bars for part of the season.

duvaldude08

Quote from: KenFSU on June 03, 2012, 05:49:03 PM
P.S.

I'm hearing he blew closer to a .25 (!!!).

Aggravated DUI, second offense, I'm wondering if the guy could end up behind bars for part of the season.

Umm.... it depends. Especially since the first DUI was in another state. Depends. I know in florida, unless I have gotten rusty, the second DUI you serve Up to a year, but atleast 10 days. Not sure what OKC Laws are and how they will treat the case because the previous one was not in OKC. Depends on the Judge. May just get a crap load of fines and a very lengthy probation.  To be honest, I think he should 30 days to shake up him. Give him time to think about WTH is he doing to his self.
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duvaldude08

QuoteWhat is the minimum jail time?

1st Offense
2d Offense
3rd Offense
Minimum Jail
5 days
10 days
10 days
Lookback Period: 10 years (Period of time that prior DUIs are relevant for sentencing. Also known as a “washout” period.)
Can you plead to a lesser offense than DUI in Oklahoma?
A defendant might receive a "wet reckless," or a conviction of reckless driving involving alcohol, as a result of a plea bargain in which a charge of drunk driving is reduced to a case of reckless driving. There is no statutory provision on whether a wet reckless plea bargain will be accepted in Oklahoma, but it's possible a lawyer may be able to create a plea bargain for you.
First Oklahoma DUI Offense
1st Drunk Driving Conviction
Jail â€" From 5 Days to 1 Year
Jail â€" Up to 4 Years (Child Under 18 in Vehicle)
Fine â€" Up to $1,000
Fine â€" Double DUI Fine Amount (Child Under 18 in Vehicle)
License Suspension â€" 30 Days
Participate in Assessment and Evaluation for Treatment
DUI Fees - $300 Minimum
More Information: First Offense DUI in Oklahoma
Second Oklahoma DUI Offense
2nd Drunk Driving Conviction
Jail â€" From 1 to 5 Years or Treatment and Imprisonment
Jail â€" Up to 4 Years (Child Under 18 in Vehicle)
License Suspension â€" 6 Months

Ignition Interlock Device
Fine â€" Up to $2,500
Fine â€" Double DUI Fine Amount (Child Under 18 in Vehicle)
Participate in Assessment and Evaluation for Treatment
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Elwood

As far as his contract, could actually make things tougher. The Jaguars are definitely not going to want a lot of up front, guaranteed money attached to his contract, which seems to be the norm these days. And his agent is going to want every dime they can get.