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Alpha Dog to close

Started by RockStar, May 04, 2012, 01:14:56 AM

respman

Quote from: ben says on May 04, 2012, 01:38:49 PM
Did the broker know about the back yard restrictions? Seems like there was a misrepresentation somewhere along the line..

They didn't seem to and never mentioned it if they did, but it seems like something they should have been aware of I agree.

respman

Quote from: Jimmy on May 04, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
You should consider speaking to an attorney about the representations made to you by the broker that you relied on to your detriment.  I have no idea if there's anything there, but a lawyer with the right experience should be able to tell you.

Thanks Jimmy. I'll look into it.

Jimmy

It's an idea.  I'm sorry things didn't work out for you.  I ate in your place a time or two and enjoyed the dogs.

doglover

Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2012, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: cline on May 04, 2012, 08:20:29 AM
Does the zoning allow for seating out back?

It did previously.  The owner of Alphadog bought the restaurant incorporating the patio which has been used by all previous businesses.

They had the public hearings, spent the money, invested in the business, and at the last moment was blindsided by the sudden exclusion of the back of the property, exactly the same way that Kay was describing in how they limited the property use for the Rogue at the behest of Jennifer Maycheck.
The property use for the Rogue was not limited by any one person's request. (I thought we were done with the blame game). As for Alphadog, the owner himself explained it was a different situation with many factors. I am sorry to see them go, especially before having the chance to participate in their trivia.

02roadking

Do you mean to tell me a RAP board member watched for 2 months & 25k spent knowing full well he could not use this space...and said nothing to the owner till he was done?
Springfield since 1998

riverside planner

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Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2012, 03:38:17 PM
Quote from: doglover on May 04, 2012, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2012, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: cline on May 04, 2012, 08:20:29 AM
Does the zoning allow for seating out back?

It did previously.  The owner of Alphadog bought the restaurant incorporating the patio which has been used by all previous businesses.

They had the public hearings, spent the money, invested in the business, and at the last moment was blindsided by the sudden exclusion of the back of the property, exactly the same way that Kay was describing in how they limited the property use for the Rogue at the behest of Jennifer Maycheck.
The property use for the Rogue was not limited by any one person's request. (I thought we were done with the blame game). As for Alphadog, the owner himself explained it was a different situation with many factors. I am sorry to see them go, especially before having the chance to participate in their trivia.

Apparently RAP board member Richard C is the man in the green house.



Stephen, just to clarify, Richard C has not been a member of the RAP board for quite some time.  That said, I am sad to see AlphaDog close.  My daughter loves going to the "hot dog place" and a good friend of mine is a huge fan of karaoke night. 

As a former planner with the city, I cannot tell you how many zoning fights were a result of "my realtor told me..."  While there may be some realtors and brokers who are zoning savvy, it has been my experience that most are not.  This unfortunately causes hardships for many folks who rely on their realtor to give them all of the pertinent information about a building.

When will the last day be?

cline

I don't see a board member named Richard C on the 2012 list.

respman

Quote from: riverside planner on May 04, 2012, 03:56:43 PM
Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2012, 03:38:17 PM
Quote from: doglover on May 04, 2012, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: stephendare on May 04, 2012, 08:24:24 AM
Quote from: cline on May 04, 2012, 08:20:29 AM
Does the zoning allow for seating out back?

It did previously.  The owner of Alphadog bought the restaurant incorporating the patio which has been used by all previous businesses.

They had the public hearings, spent the money, invested in the business, and at the last moment was blindsided by the sudden exclusion of the back of the property, exactly the same way that Kay was describing in how they limited the property use for the Rogue at the behest of Jennifer Maycheck.
The property use for the Rogue was not limited by any one person's request. (I thought we were done with the blame game). As for Alphadog, the owner himself explained it was a different situation with many factors. I am sorry to see them go, especially before having the chance to participate in their trivia.

Apparently RAP board member Richard C is the man in the green house.



Stephen, just to clarify, Richard C has not been a member of the RAP board for quite some time.  That said, I am sad to see AlphaDog close.  My daughter loves going to the "hot dog place" and a good friend of mine is a huge fan of karaoke night. 

As a former planner with the city, I cannot tell you how many zoning fights were a result of "my realtor told me..."  While there may be some realtors and brokers who are zoning savvy, it has been my experience that most are not.  This unfortunately causes hardships for many folks who rely on their realtor to give them all of the pertinent information about a building.

When will the last day be?

We will close Sunday at 6pm. After 6p I have invited the employees and their friends and families to eat and drink until the inventory is gone. We do have something special planned tomorrow for our customers. We will be having an "Occupy the Patio Movement" party. I have saved up $250 for the fine. We will open the tiki bar and piss off Richard C one last time.

fsujax


Lucasjj

What are the hours for tomorrow? I have a tee time at noon, but would like to stop in afterwards.

02roadking

Even a former member. A good neighbor, knowing the overlay, should at least have mentioned it to Alphas owner. Right? Anyway, much luck to Jim & what his future holds.
Springfield since 1998

Lucasjj

Quote from: 02roadking on May 04, 2012, 04:15:56 PM
...A good neighbor, knowing the overlay, should at least have mentioned it to Alphas owner. Right?

I agree, regardless of whatever affiliation. Holding that information back until the end is a real dick move.

respman

Quote from: Lucasjj on May 04, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
What are the hours for tomorrow? I have a tee time at noon, but would like to stop in afterwards.

10:30am till midnight.

goldy21

Quote from: respman on May 04, 2012, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 04, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
You should consider speaking to an attorney about the representations made to you by the broker that you relied on to your detriment.  I have no idea if there's anything there, but a lawyer with the right experience should be able to tell you.

Thanks Jimmy. I'll look into it.

Bingo.  The broker should be carrying Errors & Omissions/Professional Liability (omissions emphasized) insurance to cover this type of scenario.

The Compound

Quote from: Lucasjj on May 04, 2012, 04:18:18 PM
Quote from: 02roadking on May 04, 2012, 04:15:56 PM
...A good neighbor, knowing the overlay, should at least have mentioned it to Alphas owner. Right?

I agree, regardless of whatever affiliation. Holding that information back until the end is a real dick move.

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