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2012 NFL Draft

Started by duvaldude08, April 26, 2012, 12:31:28 PM

copperfiend

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 30, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
QuoteWhat's your point? Quarterbacks are more important than punters?

Why would I bash the Redskins? I don't have season tickets to the 'skins, and literally no skin in the game with them. A terrible waste of oxygen.

I think Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Favre, Big Ben, Rodgers, Brees all speak for themselves. The league has become a QB league. Look at what MJD did last year, lead the NFL in rushing and the Jags were still 5-11. To win, you have to pass, and when you score, you really don't have much need for a 3rd round punter.

Did the Jags send a message that they don't plan to score as much with a great punter? Mixed signals here.

For the record, the last time a punter went in the third round was 2004, when the Packers did it. The Packers QB was Favre. Why did they? Because they didn't plan to score as much with a great punter?

mtraininjax

And how did Mr. B.J. Sander do for the mighty Pack? Where is he now: Probably playing golf with Matt Jones.

QuoteHe was selected in the third round of the 2004 NFL Draft by the Packers. The following year, he played in NFL Europe, and punted respectably for the first half of the following regular season. However, once the cold weather started in Green Bay, Sander struggled, and ended up near the bottom of the punter rankings.
Sander was released by Green Bay on August 21, 2006. Jon Ryan became the team's primary punter.

On March 5, 2007, the St. Louis Rams signed Sander; they released him on April 21, 2007.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

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-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

copperfiend

You didn't answer my question. You say you need a third round punter when you have an elite QB but the Packers did just that in 2004.

BridgeTroll

And it was a mistake in 2004 also...
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Fallen Buckeye

Here's my take on it: if you thought he was the best available player, but you had a good idea that no one rated him higher than round 5 at best, why not try to trade down? They could have gotten at least a little extra value while still getting their punter. I think the guy will be a great punter based on the little bit of footage I've seen, but the situation seems like a missed opportunity in lots of ways. That's what's lamentable.

mtraininjax

QuoteYou didn't answer my question. You say you need a third round punter when you have an elite QB but the Packers did just that in 2004.

What was the question again?

The 2004 packers went 10-6 that year, but the Jags did beat them in Cheeseland, 28-25. I don't think you draft a punter period, but we did with Podlesh and then pissed him away because we had cheap SOBs running the show last year, and they brought in Captain Shank, then found Harris. But the punter did not win or lose us games, our QB play was a major issue. Our OL also broke down and caused issued for our QB. So again, is it worth more to have an OL at the 3rd pick who will play a LOT more plays than the punter and gain you yards to lead to points, or is it better to have a punter who can get you a few more yards for your Defense? Based on our offensive performance last year, I'd have taken a lineman at that pick. So a punter was the best available player at that spot, 70th pick in the draft. WOW!
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

comncense

Man we can't get a break. We are working out a kicker name "Long Ding". How about just work out the Scobee contract and stop wasting time.

blizz01

hmm - reminds me of Harry Colon from the early years.....

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: comncense on May 01, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
Man we can't get a break. We are working out a kicker name "Long Ding". How about just work out the Scobee contract and stop wasting time.

I very much doubt Long Ding is going to stay around or is being auditioned as a Scobee replacement.  Even teams with great kickers commonly bring in a second kicker for training camp/preseason.  Last year it was Sam Swank.
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comncense

^ I just wish they could have spared the team getting jeered due to the dude's name. Yes, I'm sure he won't make the team though.

Not to drag out the dead horse to beat up again but....

Yeah, had the team handled the Adam Podlesh situation correctly, we wouldn't have needed to waste a draft pick on a punter this year.

mtraininjax

QuoteMan we can't get a break. We are working out a kicker name "Long Ding". How about just work out the Scobee contract and stop wasting time.

Smith needs to go! This is a complete waste of time.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Rynjny

Really?? you guys ripping/making fun of a guy because of his name?? get a life ppl..

comncense

"You guys" aren't ripping the dude however people have been killing the Jaguars on their timeline about it all day. That's all i was point out.

Rynjny

The dude is not gonna make the team...they just have to bring in a person to kick in place of scobee absent.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

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Quote from: mtraininjax on May 01, 2012, 03:39:01 PM
Smith needs to go! This is a complete waste of time.

Hmmmmmm........  MTrain - you must wield some power down there at everbank field. 

I just pulled this from the archives.....

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 01, 2001, 07:38:33 PM
Coughlin needs to go! This is a complete waste of time.

Just over decade to the day.....  SCARY.


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