2012 NFL Draft

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

PUNTERS do not win NFL games for you. QBs and TDs win games. The thinking at the Jaguars totally misses that point. Smith better hope Anger scores TDs for the team, his butt is riding on this pick, and his defensive picks.

Maybe not.  But we definitely saw last year that punters can LOSE games for you.  Bust Gene all you want, but the 3rd round has been his golden round - Cox, Knighton & Rackley aren't bad, so for him to pass on other positions for a punter....  we'll see.   Maybe this Anger kid has a foot like a PW and can drop the ball where he needs to - I don't know.

[mtraininjax]

3RD ROUND: BRYAN ANGER, P, CALIFORNIA

D: This grade isn’t an indictment of Anger’s talent. He has a big leg and is proficient at pinning opponents inside the 20. But taking a punter in the third round is unacceptable for a team with the holes the Jaguars had to fill on both lines, plus depth at cornerback. Having a great punter over an average one doesn’t provide a substantial enough advantage to justify investing a third-round selection.

http://jacksonville.com/sports/columnists/gene-frenette/2012-04-29/story/gene-frenette-jaguars-filled-needs-didnt-add-much#ixzz1tWsLeo5L

Frenette's column and grades for the Jags players. He was being Kind to Khan with only a D for a punter taken in the 3rd round.

Out of all the teams that made the playoffs last year, how many said it was because of the punter? The QB position is what gets you there, you can have a crappy D, as the Packers did, and still make it because of Aaron Rodgers.  No one says Ray Guy was the reason Oakland won Super Bowls. Wake up Jags fans and smell what you are shoveling!

[kells904]

I simply do not believe this issue is worth all the attention it's getting.

[Tacachale]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

[blizz01]

+1.  I sort of wish that we'd have given up our third rounder to move up for Blackmon (which still might have been marginally acceptable).  Then we could have picked up Anger in the 4th & all of this second guessing would be moot.  The only thing that bugs me about the responses from Gene & Mike were that essentially everyone drafted beyond Anger is probably a "non-starter".  Why not bundle up picks 5, 6, & 7 and trade for a veteran if that's the mentality?

[duvaldude08]

I simply do not believe this issue is worth all the attention it's getting.

+100-and the dead horse is still getting beat.

[duvaldude08]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

I think its easier to complain about something we didnt like, versus focus on the good things that did happen.

[Gators312]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

I think its easier to complain about something we didnt like, versus focus on the good things that did happen.

I think it's easiest to drink the Kool-Aid because doing so doesn't temper expectations for the highly anticipated football season.....while it's harder to accept that your GM has a little Al Davis deep inside him that has to come out every so often to say "See I'm the smartest guy in the room." 

[Tacachale]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

I think its easier to complain about something we didnt like, versus focus on the good things that did happen.

I think it's easiest to drink the Kool-Aid because doing so doesn't temper expectations for the highly anticipated football season.....while it's harder to accept that your GM has a little Al Davis deep inside him that has to come out every so often to say "See I'm the smartest guy in the room."

And it's easier still to pin everything that goes wrong with the team on the GM.

[duvaldude08]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

I think its easier to complain about something we didnt like, versus focus on the good things that did happen.

I think it's easiest to drink the Kool-Aid because doing so doesn't temper expectations for the highly anticipated football season.....while it's harder to accept that your GM has a little Al Davis deep inside him that has to come out every so often to say "See I'm the smartest guy in the room."

And it's easier still to pin everything that goes wrong with the team on the GM.

Of course 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

I think its easier to complain about something we didnt like, versus focus on the good things that did happen.

I think it's easiest to drink the Kool-Aid because doing so doesn't temper expectations for the highly anticipated football season.....while it's harder to accept that your GM has a little Al Davis deep inside him that has to come out every so often to say "See I'm the smartest guy in the room."

Al Davis did draft two specialists in the 1st & 5th rounds back in '00.  How'd that work out for him BTW?

[JeffreyS]

We can't move on until tomorrow. We all got to work today and the jags love fest from the water cooler on Friday is now about the GM making the franchise look foolish. This to will pass but not today  clearly the Jags draft out kicked Gene's coverage in the third. Anger says he was surprised.

[Gators312]

Can we go back to talking about Blackmon now?

I think its easier to complain about something we didnt like, versus focus on the good things that did happen.

I think it's easiest to drink the Kool-Aid because doing so doesn't temper expectations for the highly anticipated football season.....while it's harder to accept that your GM has a little Al Davis deep inside him that has to come out every so often to say "See I'm the smartest guy in the room."

And it's easier still to pin everything that goes wrong with the team on the GM.

Of course 

I understand the Kool aid tastes good to you guys, but really?!?! Are your teal glasses that thick?

Gene Smith shouldn't have criticism of Gene Smith's decisions pinned on him?!?

What a joke......I can't believe that you are on board with a punter in the 3rd round when there was depth building personnel at OL.  Remember the OL?!? you know those guys who gave Gabbert an inclination to go into the fetal position as soon as the ball was hiked?  You know the position where injuries are more prevalent??? 

The Blackmon pick gave me hope for Gene's decision making, best possible thing to do in a scenario where trading down might not have had much value, where picking 7th wasn't attractive for need.  Getting help at DE was good, but then it's like he checked out....

Keep defending Gene like he's your Mother, it's okay I understand you love the Jags, but the organization can do better.

[copperfiend]

Out of all the teams that made the playoffs last year, how many said it was because of the punter? The QB position is what gets you there, you can have a crappy D, as the Packers did, and still make it because of Aaron Rodgers.  No one says Ray Guy was the reason Oakland won Super Bowls. Wake up Jags fans and smell what you are shoveling!

Nobody will ever say a team won a Super Bowl because of one guy. Even as good as Eli Manning was last year, the Giants aren't winning the Super Bowl without Pierre-Paul, Tuck and Osi. It's a team game.

[mtraininjax]

Keep defending Gene like he's your Mother, it's okay I understand you love the Jags, but the organization can do better.

+10000

Most of these people would walk through hell in a gasoline suit for Gene Smith. We should have a thread for the Gene Smith lovefest.

If you want a thread on Blackmon, start one. This thread is about the 2012 NFL Draft and the bonehead move to draft a punter is an excellent topic to discuss, especially when the local media even have a problem with the pick when there are still many needs that were not filled. BAP or not,  we had 2 punters in camp and did not need a new one, when we have issues on OL and DB.