Should Gene Smith be the Jacksonville Jaguars General Manager?

Started by British Shoe Company, March 24, 2012, 06:05:07 PM

Keep him or fire him?

Keep him.
22 (43.1%)
Fire him.
20 (39.2%)
I do not know.
4 (7.8%)
I do not care
5 (9.8%)

Total Members Voted: 51

Voting closed: January 18, 2013, 05:05:07 PM

copperfiend

Quote from: Dapperdan on March 26, 2012, 03:01:02 PM
Wasn't Gene on Shack Harris's scout team? Gene wasn't just hired out of the blue. He was working in the background before. He had his part in some of those awful draft choices by being a scout and telling Shack who we should and should not draft.

He has been a scout for the team since the beginning. He was in the scouting department when Shack was hired and put in charge. Part of his job was suggesting who the team should draft. But none of us know who he suggested. Wayne Weaver did. Based on that, why would Weaver have promoted Smith if he suggesting crap players?

mtraininjax

QuoteHe inherited Del Rio in 2009. He is in no way tied to him.

Yes he is! After Shack Harris was fired, why else would he have been promoted had he not been able to do the work, per Weaver? He is as tied to the legacy players as anyone at the Jags. Congrats to him for working his way up the organization, but he should have left with Coughlin if he wanted to learn about how to win a Super Bowl.
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I-10east

Quote from: mtraininjax on March 26, 2012, 03:22:04 PM
The NFL is a business, plain and simple. TT could have raised the profile of the team and the city, as he did in Denver. He would have been the greatest character player since Boselli, period. So think beyond football and think of our great city.

An untarped Everbank is possible, we did it in the late 90s, we can do it again, it takes winning.

I see that you played a lil' 'switcheroo' M-train; Completely wiping out your original thoughts by editing, I'm on to you. LOL

The 1995 Jags crowd was the novelty of having a new NFL team/ wine & cheese/  fringe fan/ bandwagon/ we better win all of our games crowd. It's very UNREALISTIC to think from 95 to the present will be filled with 73,000 fans in a small market like Jacksonville. Actually, if you consider per capita  concerning the market size, and the population, we already are doing pretty damn good, when you take it into consideration. Why do you think BAL, IND, ARI etc, etc etc aren't 70-80K seats? hmmm, I guess that a Michigan Stadium in Jax would automatically bring in 109K, consistently throughout forever, but don't forget, you hafta bring in Timmy boy first to start that remarkable everlasting renaissance.  ::)


duvaldude08

(gasp) there is so much tension in this room! ------> (duvaldude exits the forum)
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copperfiend

Quote from: mtraininjax on March 26, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
QuoteHe inherited Del Rio in 2009. He is in no way tied to him.

Yes he is! After Shack Harris was fired, why else would he have been promoted had he not been able to do the work, per Weaver? He is as tied to the legacy players as anyone at the Jags. Congrats to him for working his way up the organization, but he should have left with Coughlin if he wanted to learn about how to win a Super Bowl.

Legacy players? What are you talking about?

duvaldude08

Quote from: I-10east on March 26, 2012, 03:53:43 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on March 26, 2012, 03:22:04 PM
The NFL is a business, plain and simple. TT could have raised the profile of the team and the city, as he did in Denver. He would have been the greatest character player since Boselli, period. So think beyond football and think of our great city.

An untarped Everbank is possible, we did it in the late 90s, we can do it again, it takes winning.

I see that you played a lil' 'switcheroo' M-train; Completely wiping out your original thoughts by editing, I'm on to you. LOL

The 1995 Jags crowd was the novelty of having a new NFL team/ wine & cheese/  fringe fan/ bandwagon/ we better win all of our games crowd. It's very UNREALISTIC to think from 95 to the present will be filled with 73,000 fans in a small market like Jacksonville. Actually, if you consider per capita  concerning the market size, and the population, we already are doing pretty damn good, when you take it into consideration. Why do you think BAL, IND, ARI etc, etc etc aren't 70-80K seats? hmmm, I guess that a Michigan Stadium in Jax would automatically bring in 109K, consistently throughout forever, but don't forget, you hafta bring in Timmy boy first to start that remarkable everlasting renaissance.  ::)
After Khans statement the cat is now out the bag that Timmy didnt want to come here. Khan has even stated that if he would have came here and didnt want to be here, it would have been bad for the franchise and city. So I dont know why anyone is still talking about what TT could have done for Jax. We gave the better offer, he choose to go elsewhere. He wanted to start, we said he would have to compete with our two other QB's on the roster. And Im sorry to be frank, I dont think anyone should kiss the ass of a terriable QB that just so happens to be a nice person with media appeal. We gave the best offer, he didnt want it. Screw him. (yes I said it Tebow fans)
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 26, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
(gasp) there is so much tension in this room! ------> (duvaldude exits the forum)

Ha!  Duvaldude makes walking away noises with his feet, slams the door and hides behind the curtains so he can still listen in.   ;D
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duvaldude08

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 26, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 26, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
(gasp) there is so much tension in this room! ------> (duvaldude exits the forum)

Ha!  Duvaldude makes walking away noises with his feet, slams the door and hides behind the curtains so he can still listen in.   ;D

Shhhh.. Im still hiding.
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British Shoe Company

#69
Gene Smith seems to be getting a better "vote of confidence" than I thought he would.

Funny part of The Tebow deal is Elway was drafted by the Colts, and refused to play for them.

It was the only thing I liked about Elway.

Manning came from the Colts.

I was here in Jacksonville for "Colt Fever".

Elway could have royally screwed Tebow by trading him to the Colts. 

Now there is 2 things I like about Elway.

tufsu1

Quote from: British Shoe Company on March 26, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
Funny part of The Tebow deal is Elway was drafted by the Colts, and refused to play for them.

It was the only thing I liked about Elway.

wow...did you know he told Baltimore he didn't want to play in the cold...then went to Denver....that's what made me think Elway was a spoiled little brat (which still seems to be true)!

buckethead

I don't know about you guys but I'm gonna be pretty pizzed if they snub John Brantley like they did Tebow.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 26, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: British Shoe Company on March 26, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
Funny part of The Tebow deal is Elway was drafted by the Colts, and refused to play for them.

It was the only thing I liked about Elway.

wow...did you know he told Baltimore he didn't want to play in the cold...then went to Denver....that's what made me think Elway was a spoiled little brat (which still seems to be true)!

Only something a bitter Colts Ravens fan would say.   :D
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Gators312

Quote from: buckethead on March 27, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
I don't know about you guys but I'm gonna be pretty pizzed if they snub John Brantley like they did Tebow.

Signing JB would be the ultimate middle finger to Gator fans everywhere....

mtraininjax

Good article in the Florida Times Union today on Gene Smith, by Gene Frenette.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field