Should Gene Smith be the Jacksonville Jaguars General Manager?

Started by British Shoe Company, March 24, 2012, 06:05:07 PM

Keep him or fire him?

Keep him.
22 (43.1%)
Fire him.
20 (39.2%)
I do not know.
4 (7.8%)
I do not care
5 (9.8%)

Total Members Voted: 51

Voting closed: January 18, 2013, 05:05:07 PM

British Shoe Company

Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 28, 2012, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: I-10east on April 28, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
I'm pretty surprised that so many Gene fans on MJ are so tolerant of Gene's third round decision. I mean even the DIEHARD Gene fans are like WTF!!! PFT have some diehard Gene backers on PFT's Jaguar board that took up for him no matter what, and now even they are second guessing him, like really? We took up for you, and now you do this? We are honestly the NFL draft pick laughingstock right now; Maybe that will change if we go 10-6 this year and make the playoffs, then Gene will of course look like a GENEius, hopefully that will be the case.

I really think people are overacting on this. Yes we took a punter in a early round and probably should have waited but come on. Other than that, I think we wasted a pick on a linebacker and that was not a dying need right now but Im not having a cow over it. Was it really THAT bad or are we being nick picky because we wanted him to do something different? Even if it was another GM we would be doing the same thing. If he did what the fans agrees with he gets praised and if he doesnt well say he needs to be fired. In the end our needs were addressed period. What else will we find to complain about?

PS Im not defending nor am I praising Gene, but its sad how we got a two top needs filled with great players but now we throwing him under the bus because we didnt "approve " of his third round selection. Now all of a sudden the sky is falling.

The sky is so low.

It has to look up to see down.

Jacksonville does not need, or want  to be known as the "Cleveland of the South"

mtraininjax

Quotebut its sad how we got a two top needs filled with great players but now we throwing him under the bus because we didnt "approve " of his third round selection. Now all of a sudden the sky is falling.

Whatever we think of Smith, the Jags let Harris go yesterday along with the backup they signed at the end of the season, so its a moot point. I agree with others who say RB, and I would have added a lineman, because we know they do not hold up during the season. So with our picks in this draft what did we draft? 1 Offensive player and 5 defensive, again, this all on Smith and this is what he has done in past drafts, I am settling in for more of the same as last year, as even with a new owner and new coach, there are still elements that Khan has to clean out before we can move on in a new direction.

A great link to our 3rd round pick:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/57873/a-punter-jaguars-reached-in-third-round
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mtraininjax

Kiper rates the Jags with the worst draft in the AFC South.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth

Smith better hope his players win for him, otherwise he'll be elsewhere next year.
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-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 29, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Kiper rates the Jags with the worst draft in the AFC South.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth

Smith better hope his players win for him, otherwise he'll be elsewhere next year.

Because Kiper signs Gene's checks?   ::)
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duvaldude08

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 29, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 29, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Kiper rates the Jags with the worst draft in the AFC South.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth

Smith better hope his players win for him, otherwise he'll be elsewhere next year.

Because Kiper signs Gene's checks?   ::)

;D
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duvaldude08

FYI. The Mike Harris pick was Mularkeys idea it seems. The guy used to be a QB and he wants possibly to use him in wild cat schemes that they used in Pittsburgh when he was there. Of course Gene has the final say, but I will continue to say EVERYONE has input on these decisions. Gene just takes the brunt of it from the fans.

http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2012-04-28/story/jaguars-wrap-draft-defensive-upbeat
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buckethead

I can't believe we went through ANOTHER draft and still no Tebow.

This is an outrage.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: buckethead on April 29, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
I can't believe we went through ANOTHER draft and still no Tebow.

This is an outrage.

Then I guess you're devastated that we didn't resign Brunell, too.   ;)

Do we need to keep you on suicide watch?
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buckethead


duvaldude08

Quote from: buckethead on April 29, 2012, 07:45:09 PM
We still have a shot at Brunell.

I love Brunell but he has NOTHING left in the tank. His career was pretty much toast after he left Jacksonville. If anything, he would be a third QB  on the roster just to mentor the other two QB's, then retire as a Jaguar.
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Anti redneck

Quote from: buckethead on April 29, 2012, 03:29:51 PM
I can't believe we went through ANOTHER draft and still no Tebow.

This is an outrage.

Tebow had the choice to become a Jaguar. Instead, he became a Jet. Whether GS or MM wanted him or not, he had the choice. Khan was pushing for him. With that being said, he would've pushed for him to play on the field. Remember, Khan now holds the fate for Gene and Mularkey.

mtraininjax

QuoteBecause Kiper signs Gene's checks?

Nope, the guy with the large stache does, and he will hear about selecting a PUNTER in the 3rd round from the other owners, rookie mistake. I don't believe he will allow his future GM to make the same laughable mistake in future years.

Its nice to be the punchline of national jokes again.
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"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

MusicMan

This 3rd round pick was completely  boneheaded. The best punter in all of college last year was Shawn Powell, who played a whopping 150 miles away in Tallahassee. Statistically speaking he blew all the other punters away, but because he only had 49 punts last year he was not iin contention for the Lou Groza Award (best punter in college).
If you look at his stats it was not even close: highest yards per punt (49), highest net yards per  punt (42), 63% of his kicks not returned, 21 inside the 20 yd line and 12 inside the 10. He was clutch all year and you would think our GM would have noticed.

In addition he was the holder on all the placekicking attempts (field goals and PAT, another position of need on our team.)

We would have been better off trading the pick for SF punter Andy Lee, the ONLY PUNTER IN THE NFL TO AVERAGE NET PUNTING YARDS OVER 41 TDS PER KICK last year. 

However, Powell was picked up late by Buffalo so we will be able to compare these two kickers at the end of next season.

Also, defensive/offensive starter play 40-60 plays per game, so getting a starter in the 3rd round on offense or defense probably would have led to more productivity than getting a punter, who plays 5-6 plays per game.

copperfiend

Quote from: mtraininjax on April 29, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Kiper rates the Jags with the worst draft in the AFC South.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth

Smith better hope his players win for him, otherwise he'll be elsewhere next year.

And Mike Lombardi from NFL Network gave it a B and he liked the Anger pick. Mike Mayock said he has no problem taking a punter in the third round.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: copperfiend on April 30, 2012, 09:39:01 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 29, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Kiper rates the Jags with the worst draft in the AFC South.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth

Smith better hope his players win for him, otherwise he'll be elsewhere next year.

And Mike Lombardi from NFL Network gave it a B and he liked the Anger pick. Mike Mayock said he has no problem taking a punter in the third round.

Who's Mike Lombardi?   :D
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