The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

Non-RedNeck Westsider

This from Gang Green Nation (the NYJ's Big Cat Country)

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http://www.ganggreennation.com/2012/3/21/2890477/tim-tebow-trade-approval-poll
Poll
Do you approve of the trade for Tim Tebow?
36%Yes - 1094 votes.
63%No - 1928 votes.
3022 votes

Tim Tebow Trade Approval Poll
by John B on Mar 21, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

More details have come in from the Tim Tebow trade. The Jets received Tebow and a seventh round pick from Denver for a fourth round pick and a sixth round pick per Cimini.

Now let's talk about whether this was a good move or not for the Jets. I find it very difficult to see the light on this one.

Tebow will be effective in the Wildcat package. That is a plus. There is a problem with that, though. The Jets already had an effective Wildcat quarterback, Jeremy Kerley. Kerley only had a couple of passes in preseason and regular season games, but I think he threw a better ball than what I have seen from Tebow.

Even if the Jets did not have Kerley, it is difficult to see the sense in this move. A Wildcat quarterback is a spare part. The Jets have limited resources and serious needs at much more important positions. Giving up a roster spot, money against the cap, and picks for Tebow is not the best use of these limited resources.

I thought the Jets needed to get somebody to challenge Mark Sanchez, but is Tebow really the guy? He was one of the least efficient quarterbacks throwing the ball in NFL history last season. The team can claim Sanchez is the starter. Quarterback controversies are caused by external forces. Given the limelight of New York and Tebow's legion of devoted fans, we are about to experience a quarterback controversy the likes of which the NFL has never seen before.

If Sanchez gets off to a slow start, the pressure will be enormous to put in a guy who cannot throw a football well at all. It would be one thing to have David Garrard. If Sanchez got off to a slow start, there would be calls for his benching, but the Jets would have somebody who could play adequate football. Now they might put in a guy whose normal day is about as bad as Sanchez's worst day. Tebow quietly was awful even in a lot of the games where he led winning drives and got a ton of hype.

This does not feel like a football move. It feels like a move made to generate buzz and sell merchandise and tickets. Wildcat quarterback is not a need. Outside linebacker is. Free safety is. Right tackle is. This is a Redskins move. This is a Cowboys move. This is a Raiders move.
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duvaldude08

Yeah theres been a flag on the play. The trade may fall through because of contract language and the Rams may jump in and take him. This is getting good hehehehehehehe
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duvaldude08

Quote from: fsujax on March 21, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
Might better buy a Rams jersey instead.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/jets-trade-for-tebow-hits-a-snag-could-be-voided-rams-may-get-him/related/

Now I see what happened. The broncos are wanting on 5 million dollar plus drafting picks and that is why The Jaguars backed out. So it looks like we did try.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

According to Tania, we only were offering a 5th round pick.  The $5M has caught everyone by surprise.  The Broncos wouldn't have tried to sneak by on this being that all trades have to go through the NFL for review. 

Plan A - does anyone want him for $5M and the 4th and 6th pick?

Plan B - That's the baseline, now make your best offers.
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duvaldude08

Poor guy. LOL I kinda feel bad for him.
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BigGuy219

Apparently the Jags were the favorites, but balked on the $5 million.

I'm looking at his $115 million yacht and he Khan't save football in Jacksonville for a crummy $5 mil?

ben says

Quote from: BigGuy219 on March 21, 2012, 04:06:31 PM
Apparently the Jags were the favorites, but balked on the $5 million.

I'm looking at his $115 million yacht and he Khan't save football in Jacksonville for a crummy $5 mil?

"Save"???? A little myopic, no?
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ESPN.com reported that the Broncos and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify the trade.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/2012-03-21/story/tim-tebow-trade-new-york-jets-hits-snag#ixzz1pmfpzX8R

duvaldude08

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Quote from: BigGuy219 on March 21, 2012, 04:06:31 PM
Apparently the Jags were the favorites, but balked on the $5 million.

I'm looking at his $115 million yacht and he Khan't save football in Jacksonville for a crummy $5 mil?

And it looks like other teams are balking at the 5 million as well. The Jets are about to back out also. Denver is actually trying to be slick and hope nobody caught that 5 million clause. Thats 5 million we can pay towards a better player... hate to say that but its true. As we are saying, tebow aint worth much.. And dont forget Khan is a business man. Just because you have money you dont spend it stupidly.  Khan makes calculated risk, but the man is no fool. And Im sorry Tebow is nobody savior. Football in Jacksonville will be find without him.
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Wacca Pilatka

First he couldn't complete a pass; now he can't even complete a trade?

(Shamelessly stolen from Football Outsiders)
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Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: BigGuy219 on March 21, 2012, 04:06:31 PM
Apparently the Jags were the favorites, but balked on the $5 million.

I'm looking at his $115 million yacht and he Khan't save football in Jacksonville for a crummy $5 mil?

Oh well.  Enjoy continuing to be more loyal to a random mediocre-at-best quarterback than to your hometown and contributing to the national sports media's campaign to embarrass the city and franchise.
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tufsu1

Quote from: BigGuy219 on March 21, 2012, 04:06:31 PM
I'm looking at his $115 million yacht and he Khan't save football in Jacksonville for a crummy $5 mil?

well the yacht is for sale :)

plus, its a business decision....if having Tebow adds 6000 fans (as some survey said it would)....and they spend an average of $65 per person on tickets, the Jags add $3.1 million in revenue....best bet is after year one those fans will stop coming if the product on the field is bad

downtownjag

Quote from: BigGuy219 on March 21, 2012, 04:06:31 PM
Apparently the Jags were the favorites, but balked on the $5 million.

I'm looking at his $115 million yacht and he Khan't save football in Jacksonville for a crummy $5 mil?

Since you clearly watch ESPN too much, "Come on man!".  What about disenchanting the fans who have loyally attended and put up with the tebow rhetoric from people who don't go to the games???

NFL Total Access yesterday said Miami was the favorite, because of ticket sales, not Jax.  That's really saying to me that media perception of the city is changing.

BigGuy219

From Adam Schefter's twitter

QuoteMore craziness filed to ESPN: Jaguars are back in the mix, seeing if they now can pull off a trade with Denver for Tim Tebow.