Springfield Nightscape Deteriorating.

[jason_contentdg]

What programming is bringing the thugs?

The foosball matches, for one...

[Driven1]

lol.  PRETEND I CAN'T HEAR IT ALL!!!!!  PRETEND THEY AREN'T THERE!!!!

[Driven1]

I have your number?  I dont think so.

I am just curious about your plans.  I think this clearly fits within the context of this thread.

It may or may not River.   How would you like your address and landlord posted here?

But that isnt your address.  It is the potential address for a future restaurant.  And, if I was really planning a restaurant, I would love to have its address known by the public.

If the situation doesnt improve on main we may decide to open a restaurant or third space or we may decide to open it as an office, we don't know yet.

We might even decide that the expense and time isnt worth it.

I am confused.  Do you have a lease with Hionides and, if so, are you paying rent?  Or are you just speculating about a possible future lease on the property?  It doesnt seem to make much sense to pay Hionides, a man who you previously vilified (as did I) for bringing down Main Street, if you dont intend to ever occupy the space.

I guess the questions will not be answered then? 

BTW, I just did a drive by and this place has trash piled high in the windows with a piece of "art" in the left window which looks as if it was created by my 2 year old neighbor. 

Also, extremely downscale individuals were wandering around the block in a daze.  Some of them were homeless but some obviously reside in the upper floors of some of the buildings in this block.  Get some of them to sell to legitimate landlords and you will see the entire area turn around.

RG - are you saying you drove down to the property on Main St there at 7th?  how was the rest of the structures there in relation to subject?

[Johnny]

I think we can all agree that JSO isn't doing what we pay high property taxes for, no?

[RiversideGator]

RG - are you saying you drove down to the property on Main St there at 7th?  how was the rest of the structures there in relation to subject?

The address I checked out was 1715 Main Street together with the adjacent properties on that block.  It is an interesting area but clearly there are some significant social pathologies represented among its current inhabitants.  All of the commercial storefronts appeared vacant but still intact unlike in many blocks.  The key, as I stated earlier, is to first get rid of the existing residential tenants and then work your way down to the commercial storefronts.  Once it is all fully leased up, the homeless wont want to be there as much and/or will be run off by cops and residents.

[RiversideGator]

well I guess River, that a building with some interior clean up and demo kindof looks like that.

Usually when I am doing interior demo I have a dumpster and actually throw out the trash inside first rather than push it to the front door.  But, I guess everyone has different methods.

Also, extremely downscale individuals were wandering around the block in a daze.  Some of them were homeless but some obviously reside in the upper floors of some of the buildings in this block.  Get some of them to sell to legitimate landlords and you will see the entire area turn around.

These would be the tenants of the Pawn Shop, on the corner of 7th and Main as referenced in the original post below. Thanks for verifying the presence.  It needs a good round of code enforcement.

The Pawn Shop is a big problem both in and of itself and with the people living above it.  Also, the 3 story prarie style building at the SE corner of 8th and Main is a huge dirtbag magnet.  It is a shame because the structure has tremendous potential.  I would love to get ahold of it and rehab it.   

[billy]

that's a Klutho, isn't it?

[RiversideGator]

I believe so and I think it used to be a hotel at some point.  I am pretty sure it is Wayne Wood's book re historic Jacksonville structures but I dont have a copy here with me now to check.  It is a neat building with so many possibilities.

[thelakelander]

Here's an image of it back in Springfield's glory days.  Its the building on the left.

[Driven1]

i love that building.  next RE upturn i predict it will finally get restored to its former glory.  i am remember being constantly surprised as the last few years went by (2003-2006) as no one picked it up.

[Driven1]

It was very frustrating to see that all the changes and CEPTED work that we did has almost been completely undone.

i agree.  this is very sad indeed.  what do you think primarily has contributed to the reversal of all the work you did to originally clean up Springfield?

[nvrenuf]

Tonight we are going to include the boulevard route in the drive through.

How was your trip along Boulevard?

[nvrenuf]

It seemed quieter than usual to me too at around midnight. Apparently there was activity at 7th & Boulevard approx 3am.

[thelakelander]

How are the parks in general at night now?  When I came to town in 2003, they were pretty rough.