The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

thelakelander

As a life long fins fan, you've hit the head on the nail.  I've grown so tired, it's comical now.  I don't know what I'd do without fantasy football these days during football season.  I remember when I used to get pissed at the Marino teams winning +10 games a season and losing to Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas every year in the playoffs.  Now I'd probably give a left leg (no, not really) to see them compete for a wild card spot.  I can't vouch for JDR (he should have been let go years before he was) but Miami's front office is definitely worse than anything the Jags have had to deal with.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

duvaldude08

Quote from: thelakelander on March 19, 2012, 03:53:08 PM
As a life long fins fan, you've hit the head on the nail.  I've grown so tired, it's comical now.  I don't know what I'd do without fantasy football these days during football season.  I remember when I used to get pissed at the Marino teams winning +10 games a season and losing to Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas every year in the playoffs.  Now I'd probably give a left leg (no, not really) to see them compete for a wild card spot.  I can't vouch for JDR (he should have been let go years before he was) but Miami's front office is definitely worse than anything the Jags have had to deal with.

I always joke and say, "since the Jags put the nail in Marinos couffin the Dolphins havent been anything since." And I think Im actually right. I think they may the playoffs again in 2001 ( a year after our epic beat down hehehehehe) and havent been back since.  Honestly, since the Jags came in to the picture, I think we have the better NFL in Florida. We dont play Tampa or Miami much, but I think we own the series with both teams. ESPECIALLY Tampa. They can beat us if their life depended on it. I also feel that the Jags put pressure on the fan base in Florida. You have people who were life long Buc and Dolphin fans that converted as soon as we got a team. And even now, we are selling more tickets that the both of them.
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thelakelander

I'll always be a Dolphin fan (it's too late for me) but my brother and kids are Jags fans.  I didn't survive the 62-7 smack down.  My tv went off at halftime.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

duvaldude08

Quote from: thelakelander on March 19, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
I'll always be a Dolphin fan (it's too late for me) but my brother and kids are Jags fans.  I didn't survive the 62-7 smack down.  My tv went off at halftime.

I think I would have cried. That was an epic beat down  ;D
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thelakelander

That and the 38-3 beat down by Denver a year earlier was a harsh dose of reality that JJ wasn't going to repeat his UM and Cowboy magic.  It's been all downhill since.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

KenFSU

#1235
We've all been through this argument repeatedly, but I'm still of the firm opinion that bringing Tim Tebow in is the right business decision to make, and borders on a no-brainer. Right now, the Jags are the most irrelevant franchise in the NFL. We enjoy very little regional support outside of the city limits. When the national media isn't ignoring us, they are prodding us. We could win ten games this year, and we'd still be irrelevant.

Polls showed Tim Tebow to be the most popular athlete in the nation last year. He's going to be on the cover of this year's Madden game. They spoofed him on Saturday Night Live. His jersey was number one in sales. His every gesture became a national trend.

We have the ability to put the most popular athlete on the planet in a Jaguars jersey, in his hometown, and give him the keys to the city, and we -- JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, mind you -- say "No thanks, we're good."

With Tim Tebow comes corporate sponsorships, a flood of worldwide media attention on the city of Jacksonville, guaranteed ticket sales (in the short term, at the very least), a huge increase in support from Gainesville and other Gator-heavy regions of Florida, more nationally televised games, an influx of cash into the local economy, etc.

What's the drawback?

We run the risk of losing a couple of football games if things don't pan out?

I'm not even a Tim Tebow fan myself, but I think you guys are getting so caught up in the football side that you're missing the bigger business picture here.

This is a perfect storm of events for the city of Jacksonville.

A once in a lifetime opportunity to bring a superstar in -- coming off a playoff berth, mind you -- and let him help build both the franchise and the city.

Hell, look at what Lebron James did for the Cleveland economy during his time with the Cavs. His mere presence in that city rebuilt much of the downtown area around the arena.

Let him ride the pine behind Gabbert for all I care, maybe it will give Gabbert an extra kick in the pants, but it would be the biggest mistake imaginable (for both the Jaguars and the local economy) to pass up this opportunity.

thelakelander

Do it JAX!

Tim Tebow Trade Rumors: Why Jacksonville Jaguars Must Make a Play for QB

QuotePeyton Manning is a member of the Denver Broncos. It sounds a little odd to say even after all the speculation and the guessing and the waiting. He was either going to Denver or Tennessee. There was never any doubt that when he finally made his decision, the buzz all over the NFL would be about what happens next.

And here we are.

The fact he signed with Denver isn't as big in sports news circles as much as what happens now to Tim Tebow, the uber-popular rock star football player (notice I did not say quarterback) who is in limbo as far as fans, the NFL and pop culture are concerned.

And while there are reasons for him to sign with a handful of teams, there is only one that in many fans' eyes makes sense. The Jacksonville Jaguars.

Sometimes, no always, it is good to come back home.

full article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1110785-tim-tebow-trade-rumors-why-jacksonville-jaguars-must-make-a-play-for-qb
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: KenFSU on March 19, 2012, 04:55:05 PM

What's the drawback?


The same thing that happens when you see your parents, not Santa Claus, putting presents under the tree.  Christmas is never the same again. 
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thelakelander

get 'er done, Kahn!

Tim Tebow Trade: Jaguars Favorites to Trade for Tebow; Odds for Other NFL Teams to Land the Quarterback

QuoteThe online sportsbook, Bovada, has posted odds for where Tebow will play this upcoming season.

According to the website, Tebow will most likely be traded to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bovada places his odds of playing for the Jaguars at +150.

The second best odds also have Denver trading Tebow to a team in Florida. The site lists the odds of Tebow playing for the Miami Dolphins at +175.

ESPN is reporting that the Broncos will trade Tebow once Manning signs, but there are still odds for Tebow staying in Denver. The site places the odds of Tebow remaining with the Broncos at +175.

The Patriots and Browns are listed as longshots to acquire Tebow. They come in at +700 and +1200 respectively.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/316330/20120319/tim-tebow-trade-jaguars-jacksonville-betting-odds.htm


Tim Tebow To Jacksonville Would Be Biggest Offseason Move

QuoteAnd while the greater focus is on Houston Texans defensive end Mario Williams and the wooing of Peyton Manning, the offseason move that has the best chance to move the most money is undeniably Tim Tebow to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

If Manning goes to Denver, Tebow could be traded. And there is no player in the NFL who would generate more for a team than Tim Tebow would for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Let’s show you why.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46731713/Tim_Tebow_To_Jacksonville_Would_Be_Biggest_Offseason_Move
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

Aquariums, convention centers, festival marketplaces, pocket parks, grade separated horizontal elevators, half a billion dollar courthouses all in the name of downtown revitalization?  Build it, remove the tarps and they will come..... ;D  Sooner or later you'll hit the jackpot......right?

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

RockStar

Quote from: thelakelander on March 19, 2012, 04:58:45 PM
Do it JAX!

Tim Tebow Trade Rumors: Why Jacksonville Jaguars Must Make a Play for QB

QuotePeyton Manning is a member of the Denver Broncos. It sounds a little odd to say even after all the speculation and the guessing and the waiting. He was either going to Denver or Tennessee. There was never any doubt that when he finally made his decision, the buzz all over the NFL would be about what happens next.

And here we are.

The fact he signed with Denver isn't as big in sports news circles as much as what happens now to Tim Tebow, the uber-popular rock star football player (notice I did not say quarterback) who is in limbo as far as fans, the NFL and pop culture are concerned.

And while there are reasons for him to sign with a handful of teams, there is only one that in many fans' eyes makes sense. The Jacksonville Jaguars.

Sometimes, no always, it is good to come back home.

full article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1110785-tim-tebow-trade-rumors-why-jacksonville-jaguars-must-make-a-play-for-qb

The article makes some good points, but it also relies on Gator fans to actually go out and buy tickets. They've had it easy thus  far with the whole "I'd buy them if...", however, I fear the only thing we'd hear is "Well I'd buy them but the economy..." as they pack their cars for G-ville Saturday morning.

Besides, Miami seems more likely. They need a QB and  they need asses in seats as well, worse than we do.

Additionally, letting Tebow to go to Miami will help to feed the local defeatists, so at least we got that going for us... 

duvaldude08

From NFL.com

Quote

But what everyone acknowledges is that the right trade could well be out there for the Broncos. And it might well come from the direction of an owner, seeing the starpower and business opportunities Tebow would present.

"That's the wrong way to approach it," said the NFC exec. "It's about winning games. If you're gonna approach it by looking at ticket sales, then you're not a good owner."


Any questions?
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thelakelander

^81 post already on the Jacksonville.com site.  Bring your son back home!

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/429812/tania-ganguli/2012-03-19/peyton-manning-sign-broncos-should-jags-trade-tim-tebow

Dolphins are screwed until they rid themselves of GM Jeff Ireland , Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, and Fergie as team owners.  Not even Tebow can make the stink smelling up in Davie better.


"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

fieldafm

QuoteThe article makes some good points, but it also relies on Gator fans to actually go out and buy tickets. They've had it easy thus  far with the whole "I'd buy them if...", however, I fear the only thing we'd hear is "Well I'd buy them but the economy..." as they pack their cars for G-ville Saturday morning.

BINGO

Tebow's first NFL game... which just so happened to be played in Jacksonville... wasn't a sellout, NOR was it even the most attended game that year(it was 3rd). 

QuoteWe run the risk of losing a couple of football games if things don't pan out?


Oh absolutely, its a no risk proposition: just like trading the entire draft in 2008 to get another highly coveted Gator player... wait that didn't turn out so well either.  ::)

duvaldude08

#1244
Quote from: KenFSU on March 19, 2012, 04:55:05 PM
We've all been through this argument repeatedly, but I'm still of the firm opinion that bringing Tim Tebow in is the right business decision to make, and borders on a no-brainer. Right now, the Jags are the most irrelevant franchise in the NFL. We enjoy very little regional support outside of the city limits. When the national media isn't ignoring us, they are prodding us. We could win ten games this year, and we'd still be irrelevant.

Polls showed Tim Tebow to be the most popular athlete in the nation last year. He's going to be on the cover of this year's Madden game. They spoofed him on Saturday Night Live. His jersey was number one in sales. His every gesture became a national trend.

We have the ability to put the most popular athlete on the planet in a Jaguars jersey, in his hometown, and give him the keys to the city, and we -- JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, mind you -- say "No thanks, we're good."

With Tim Tebow comes corporate sponsorships, a flood of worldwide media attention on the city of Jacksonville, guaranteed ticket sales (in the short term, at the very least), a huge increase in support from Gainesville and other Gator-heavy regions of Florida, more nationally televised games, an influx of cash into the local economy, etc.

What's the drawback?

We run the risk of losing a couple of football games if things don't pan out?

I'm not even a Tim Tebow fan myself, but I think you guys are getting so caught up in the football side that you're missing the bigger business picture here.

This is a perfect storm of events for the city of Jacksonville.

A once in a lifetime opportunity to bring a superstar in -- coming off a playoff berth, mind you -- and let him help build both the franchise and the city.

Hell, look at what Lebron James did for the Cleveland economy during his time with the Cavs. His mere presence in that city rebuilt much of the downtown area around the arena.

Let him ride the pine behind Gabbert for all I care, maybe it will give Gabbert an extra kick in the pants, but it would be the biggest mistake imaginable (for both the Jaguars and the local economy) to pass up this opportunity.

Im sorry. I want to win. Tebow would be a HUGE gamble with a fan based that is already frustrated with the team. He was worse than Gabbert on the books last year. We would be taking another step back if we traded for him. Hes not worth ANY of our draft picks in my book. After a depressing season last year "losing a couple of games" if it doesn't pan out would not enstill much faith in the organization that already has lost alot of fans over the years. I dont want a bunch of Tebow zombie at the Jags game because he's there. If he doest work out, those same people will haul ass because they were not there for the team in the first place. I dont care about media attention. I WANT TO WIN. If we are not winning, all that other shit is irrelevant. The only reason the Broncos made it as far as they did is because of their defense. They were BARELY winning games. Winning a game by a touchdown or magical field goal is not exactly lights out football. Heck the Jags won 5 games last year by a TD or FG.
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