First Baptist Church: Opinions? Now vs the Past.

[Anti redneck]

Just curious. How much of a bible-belt would you consider Jacksonville to be now compared to 15 years ago? The city always had a tendency to cater to the most dreaded FBC. Who here still thinks that's going on?

[Garden guy]

As long as tey sit on downtown property and pays zero they are a threat to the city...and not all of us believe in the bs they feed people.

[Ocklawaha]

How many services have you attended there Garden Guy? A threat to who, or what, Anti Redneck?

[Anti redneck]

I believe that the FBC is partially responsible of holding this city back from where it needs to be. As far as I'm concerned, they are not welcome in Jacksonville. Garden Guy says they pay zero? Really? It's about time to start charging them. They regulate downtown for businesses that want to move there, but they won't regulate FBC? I say it's time to send them packing. I don't know how everyone else feels, but personally I don't want them here!

[stephenc]

Guess it's time for another anti-Christian rant. Come on guys. This is so old and tired...

[Anti redneck]

Guess it's time for another anti-Christian rant. Come on guys. This is so old and tired...

By no means am I anti-Christian. But I think there must be boundaries drawn for organizations like them. They have overstepped their boundaries too many times in the past. The city council has allowed them to. If I was Alvin Brown (granted I don't know what church he belongs to), I would tell them to watch themselves. I'm sure there are others who feel the same way.

[stephenc]

Guess it's time for another anti-Christian rant. Come on guys. This is so old and tired...

By no means am I anti-Christian. But I think there must be boundaries drawn for organizations like them. They have overstepped their boundaries too many times in the past. The city council has allowed them to. If I was Alvin Brown (granted I don't know what church he belongs to), I would tell them to watch themselves. I'm sure there are others who feel the same way.

How have they overstepped their boundaries?

[Anti redneck]

A few years ago, a story went around about how Rev. Mac Brunson paid a JSO detective to get a logger's identity and location because I he did not like what was being blogged. What happened to the blogger I don't know. While I am sure that some if not many people, including city council members and others attend the church, word has it that Brunson and all his little cronies have a few city council members and cops on their payroll. It would not surprise me. Mac Brunson alone makes over $300,000 a year. He can afford it. Besides, does anyone else think it's a little strange that a church gets to have all the incentives they want in an over-regulated downtown, but the city will not bring in the businesses and companies we would like to see?

[stephenc]

While I hardly ever agree with anything you write Stephendare, you're spot on here (1st time for everything. lol ). I think if anyone knows anything about this situation it's you.

[Anti redneck]

A few years ago, a story went around about how Rev. Mac Brunson paid a JSO detective to get a logger's identity and location because I he did not like what was being blogged. What happened to the blogger I don't know. While I am sure that some if not many people, including city council members and others attend the church, word has it that Brunson and all his little cronies have a few city council members and cops on their payroll. It would not surprise me. Mac Brunson alone makes over $300,000 a year. He can afford it. Besides, does anyone else think it's a little strange that a church gets to have all the incentives they want in an over-regulated downtown, but the city will not bring in the businesses and companies we would like to see?

There is literally no sentence in this paragraph that is true, anti redneck.

You are either being propagandized, or you are attempting to do the same thing, anti redneck.

I do know a bit about this one, as we followed the story pretty closely on this site, there was a lot of suspicion that I was the first baptist blogger.

First Baptist is cut out of every incentive and program that is ever offered to downtown development, its congregation is snubbed, maligned and insulted at ever turn, incidentally. 

The First Baptist Blogger, is alive and well, still publishing his blog.

Without first baptist being downtown, the whole thing would have turned into a blasted wasteland an awfully long time ago.

You are correct that the city was taken backwards by a small group of people, but that group was called, The Porkchop Gang, and it was led by Ed Ball, not First Baptist.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php?topic=9316.0  try reading here.

I am frankly, also tired of the anti First Baptitst rants, as they are based in ignorance, suspicion and fear.

Read the above link for the story of what ails you, anti redneck.

Trey Brunson, one of the associate pastors of the church, who I met in person at a memorial service for Lisa Neary with my partner from Boomtown, John Allen Harrett is writing a front page guest article for metrojacksonville this next week.

Pork Chop Gang - a group of 20 conservatives in North Florida who supported segregation (or however it was worded). Honestly, besides being the brother-in-law of Alfred and Jessie duPont, this really tells me very little about Jacksonville going backwards. It's 2012 now and still not much has changed. Anyone have a picture of the Jacksonville skyline from the 1960's? I'm sure it doesn't look that much different now.

Btw -- no propaganda going on here. But there is still something going on here. The Good Ole' Boy system still exists in Jacksonville.

[Garden guy]

With such wonderful support from mr dare it seems that maybe he's on their payroll also.lol.

[Anti redneck]

With such wonderful support from mr dare it seems that maybe he's on their payroll also.lol.

I was trying not to say that. 

[Anti redneck]

Point taken. So how would those things get solved?

[Ocklawaha]

It's 2012 now and still not much has changed. Anyone have a picture of the Jacksonville skyline from the 1960's? I'm sure it doesn't look that much different now.
Btw -- no propaganda going on here. But there is still something going on here. The Good Ole' Boy system still exists in Jacksonville.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.  Looks like those damn Baptists have really held us back eh?

Oh ye of little faith, if you think Jacksonville's politics are 'Good 'ol Boy dirty' you should try the politics of Chicago, Los Angeles, Rio or even Bogota!

[Ocklawaha]

Shame that the church has never used those imagined Billions $$ to actually help anyone in Jacksonville, but as Stephendare has stated so well, it's all about propaganda, NOT FACTS!

Ministry Listing

James 1 Ministry | First Baptist Church
A “helping hands” ministry specifically meant for ministering to our FBC members (single moms, elderly couples, and widows.)
For more information please contact James1@fbcjax.com or call 265.7288

FBC Crossroads Career Page - http://www.crossroadscareer.org/fbcjax-fl
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Florida Baptist Children’s Home
This home provides Christ centered services to children and families in need.

Location:
2300 Bartram Rd.
Jacksonville, FL 32207
904.721.2711
For more information please go to their website:  www.fbchomes.org


Prayer Room | First Baptist Church
The Prayer Room provides a quiet place to pray and seek God.
Location: 2nd floor of the Main Auditorium â€" Laura Street side
Hours:
Sunday Morning 8:00 to 12:15
Sunday Evenings5:00 to 8:00

For more information please contact missions@fbcjax.com or call 904.366.1325

First Coast Women’s Services
Transforming hearts and saving lives

FCWS is committed to offering truthful information, emotional support, and practical assistance to individuals who are facing unplanned pregnancies.
For locations and more information please go their web site: www.fcws.org



Florida Baptist Convention | Jacksonville, Florida
To equip and provide inspiration (through word and deed) Florida Baptist churches and associations to accomplish the Great Commission.

Location: 1230 Hendricks Ave.32207
For more information please see their web site: www.flbaptist.org



Jacksonville Baptist Association
Is a networking ministry of diverse churches seeking to stimulate church health, develop leaders, and multiply ministries in the Jacksonville area.

Location: 2700 University Blvd. South32216
For more information please see their web site:  www.jaxbaptist.org



Prison Ministry | First Baptist Church
A group of FBC men who go to various prisons in our state to minister to inmates in an attempt to lead them to faith in Jesus.

Yearly Event: In November of each year FBC collects home baked cookies to take to the prisons.  We are the only church allowed to do this.
For more information about this ministry and how you can help please email pastoralcare@fbcjax.com or call 904.366.1236



Sidewalk Funday School
This ministry is designed to reach children who do not have the opportunity to go to Sunday School or church. They bring Sunday School to inner city areas because this might be the only chance for them to hear the Word of God.

Office: 124 West Ashley Street 32202904.265.7252
For locations, how you can volunteer, and more information please see their website:  www.sidewalkfundayschool.com or call 904.265.7252


Silver Creek & Desert Winds
This is our Apartment Ministry.  We educate, have activities and hold Bible Studies on site to encourage the international people who live there.
For location, how you can volunteer, and more information please call 904.366.1382 or email davidmk@fbcjax.com.


Trinity Rescue Mission
This ministry helps transform lives by sharing the   love and life changing power of Jesus Christ.

Location:
622 West Union Street
Jacksonville, FL 32202
For more information and how you can volunteer please see their website:  www.trinityrescue,org or call 904.355.1205

Safe Families
Safe Families is a network of local agencies and churches that are committed to preventing child abuse and helping at-risk families successfully manage crisis situations.
For locations, how you can volunteer, and more information please see their website:  www.safe-families.org click on Jerree Sanders
Some links to great missions resources:
www.commissionstories.com
www.kidsonmission.org and www.kompray.imb.org
www.imb.org/lottieatwork
www.resources.imb.org
www.imb.org/globalresearch
www.peoplegroups.org
www.prayerthreads.imb.org
www.thetask.org
www.imbconnect.net

OMG!  They REALLY DO use that money for some pretty amazing things.

'Brother' OCKLAWAHA eh Stephen?